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Re: Xerdan shaquri

Post by Rumbletonk » Mon May 07, 2018 5:44 pm

He's the absolute spit of Shaka Hislop

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Post by LowtonClaret » Mon May 07, 2018 5:53 pm

Guys, I'd say if SD wants him or any other player, we just trust him. There were grumblings about Defour and Our little Scouse friend but the gaffer turned them around and made quality players of them. If SD wants them, there's a reason why.....

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Post by taio » Mon May 07, 2018 5:59 pm

LowtonClaret wrote:Guys, I'd say if SD wants him or any other player, we just trust him. There were grumblings about Defour and Our little Scouse friend but the gaffer turned them around and made quality players of them. If SD wants them, there's a reason why.....
I don't think there is any suggestion Dyche does want him unless I've missed something. In any case I doubt he'd be interested.
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Post by LowtonClaret » Mon May 07, 2018 6:03 pm

taio wrote:I don't think there is any suggestion Dyche does want him unless I've missed something. In any case I doubt he'd be interested.
That's the point. Whether he does or doesn't, SD knows what he's doing :D

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Re: Xerdan shaquri

Post by CFS » Mon May 07, 2018 6:04 pm

No thanks. Wouldn't mind loftus cheek though.

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Re: Xerdan shaquri

Post by Diesel » Mon May 07, 2018 6:10 pm

claretspice wrote:I wasn't comparing them as players, just in terms of their approach to the defensive side of the game.
No backtracking now, they were your exact words.

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Re: Xerdan shaquri

Post by dermotdermot » Mon May 07, 2018 6:14 pm

I’d be really really really happy if we didn’t sign him.

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Re: Xerdan shaquri

Post by WestMidsClaret » Mon May 07, 2018 6:22 pm

I'd be quite happy if we signed him. I know he ain't the best at backtracking but who's to say Sean couldn't have a bit of influence over him. Sean's done bloody well with man management. Shaquri's quite versatile. Can play either wing and he'd probably make a great number 10 as long as we had a CmM sitting in. Can split fans opinion but let's be honest he's quality. As for wages well depends how much he fancies a challenge.

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Re: Xerdan shaquri

Post by Blackrod » Mon May 07, 2018 6:28 pm

Good player but huge wages and suspect character. Would be very surprised by this. Dyche wants tracking back and off the ball work and not attacking flair. Lazy journalism probably.

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Post by Archie Claret » Mon May 07, 2018 9:22 pm

Another skillful mercenary, out for no.1.
But If anyone can turn someone like that Dyche can.

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Re: Xerdan shaquri

Post by FactualFrank » Mon May 07, 2018 9:29 pm

Diesel wrote:Haha, calm down.

Spice has come up with a cracker, look...
They both have a head and 2 ears.

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Re: Xerdan shaquri

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Mon May 07, 2018 9:41 pm

World beater one minute, panel beater the next. I would be very surprised if there was anything in this but last year at this time I would have been absolutely astounded if someone had suggested we could get into Europe. So what do I know.

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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Mon May 07, 2018 10:00 pm

Archie Claret wrote:Another skillful mercenary, out for no.1.
But If anyone can turn someone like that Dyche can.
I believe Defour was similar before be he came to us.

I think Shaqiri would be a superb signing, no doubt about it.

He’s on 65k at Stoke though..

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Post by Woonderbah » Tue May 08, 2018 8:55 am

I doubt the club shop have any X's or Q's for shirts so can't see this happening

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Post by TVC15 » Tue May 08, 2018 9:04 am

Woonderbah wrote:I doubt the club shop have any X's or Q's for shirts so can't see this happening
No we are ok
We still have a stack of Xs left from Ian Cox and we ordered a load of Qs when we were rumoured to be signing Quinton Fortune !
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Post by Woonderbah » Tue May 08, 2018 10:26 am

TVC15 wrote:No we are ok
We still have a stack of Xs left from Ian Cox and we ordered a load of Qs when we were rumoured to be signing Quinton Fortune !
Let's dust them off n get the lad Dyche fit then... and see how many different ways we can spell his name on here

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue May 08, 2018 10:30 am

There is no doubt that he's capable of being brilliant but I can't see him coming here and suddenly deciding that he needs to knuckle down, get "Dyche fit" and work for the team.

Can anyone?

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Post by ClaretMoffitt » Tue May 08, 2018 10:54 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:There is no doubt that he's capable of being brilliant but I can't see him coming here and suddenly deciding that he needs to knuckle down, get "Dyche fit" and work for the team.

Can anyone?
To be honest I can.

Seems a passionate lad with some fire in him, reminds me a lot of Ross Wallace but with a lot more natural ability. I think he could potentially do very well for us, lets not forget Charlton fans said very similar things when JBG came to us after they got relegated.

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Post by jdrobbo » Tue May 08, 2018 11:00 am

Wonderful talent but he refuses to defend! I can’t see it. He doesn’t work hard enough for our framework. Dyche, of course, could change that mentality.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue May 08, 2018 11:09 am

Both of you have faith galore in the ability of SD to change a players mentality.

Its a hell of a risk when you consider he's never done it for any manager and he'd be comfortably our most highest paid player.

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Post by IndigoLake » Tue May 08, 2018 11:14 am

Whenever, Wherever we sign him, Shaqiri will be an excellent acquisition. Anyone saying otherwise is Loca. We should Try Everything to get him at the club. It'll be like Deja Vu from the time we signed Steven Defour.
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Post by Spijed » Tue May 08, 2018 11:16 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:Both of you have faith galore in the ability of SD to change a players mentality.

Its a hell of a risk when you consider he's never done it for any manager and he'd be comfortably our most highest paid player.
At Spurs, Lennon never struck me as a player who would chase after a lost cause but when we've played well he seems very willing to help out in defence, especially against Man City.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue May 08, 2018 11:18 am

Ah, but Everton fans said he worked his socks off for them. He at least has form for it.
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Post by claretspice » Tue May 08, 2018 11:25 am

Spijed wrote:At Spurs, Lennon never struck me as a player who would chase after a lost cause but when we've played well he seems very willing to help out in defence, especially against Man City.
I don't think Spurs fans would agree with you. I know a few Spurs fans and they are all absolutely clear that Lennon was always an incredibly hard worker - worked back in defence and willing to chase down lost causes further forwards.

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Post by TVC15 » Tue May 08, 2018 11:35 am

Not sure that the most important quality of a no 10 is that he can track back !
When Jeff played no 10 for us people were critical at his forward play and not his fitness or ability to track back - which he continued to do ok.

It’s a very specialist position - ability to find space, first touch, play in others, score and make goals etc.

Yes you would ideally want them to be able to track back when needed and in times of a match when we are having to dig in. Shaquri seems to do that when needed for Switzerland and Stoke but of course it’s not his biggest quality by a long way. He does seem to take the leader role on the pitch for club and country and i’m not convinced he has the poor attitude some seem to be implying.

If he is a wrong un - simple - we will not be signing him.
Personally I think he might be out of our reach anyway but if we did sign him I can’t believe he would not improve us.

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Post by quoonbeatz » Tue May 08, 2018 12:11 pm

show pony and a bit of a bell, by all accounts.

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Post by claretspice » Tue May 08, 2018 12:22 pm

TVC15 wrote:Not sure that the most important quality of a no 10 is that he can track back !
When Jeff played no 10 for us people were critical at his forward play and not his fitness or ability to track back - which he continued to do ok.

It’s a very specialist position - ability to find space, first touch, play in others, score and make goals etc.

Yes you would ideally want them to be able to track back when needed and in times of a match when we are having to dig in. Shaquri seems to do that when needed for Switzerland and Stoke but of course it’s not his biggest quality by a long way. He does seem to take the leader role on the pitch for club and country and i’m not convinced he has the poor attitude some seem to be implying.

If he is a wrong un - simple - we will not be signing him.
Personally I think he might be out of our reach anyway but if we did sign him I can’t believe he would not improve us.
Depends what you want from your number 10. The number 10s that Liverpool employ work phenomenally hard from the front, for example.

We set ourselves up to defend from the front, work really hard to deny space and enable us to be more collectively than the sum of our parts. You can't have that mandatory for 9 outfield players and allow one to take it easy.

We simply don't have a role in our team for the sort of number 10 you're thinking about I'm afraid - and we won't for as long as Dyche is manager.

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Post by TVC15 » Tue May 08, 2018 12:42 pm

claretspice wrote:Depends what you want from your number 10. The number 10s that Liverpool employ work phenomenally hard from the front, for example.

We set ourselves up to defend from the front, work really hard to deny space and enable us to be more collectively than the sum of our parts. You can't have that mandatory for 9 outfield players and allow one to take it easy.

We simply don't have a role in our team for the sort of number 10 you're thinking about I'm afraid - and we won't for as long as Dyche is manager.
Why ? What no 10 do you think I'm thinking of ?

I`ve never said that I want a lazy no 10 who does not track back - I simply said that is not their most important quality.

Do you think the most important quality of Salah, Mane and Firmino is their ability to track back and defend from the front ? The fact that they can do it very well is of course very important to the success and style of play of Liverpool.

As I said we have already tried someone in Hendrick who does the defending from the front more than adequately - the only problem is that he struggles with the other aspects of this role which is why it has not worked.

I do not know whether Shaquri can defend from the front as we need him to - if he cannot then I doubt whether Dyche will be interested. What we do know is he has got the quality to do the attacking part of the role.

If Dyche is genuinely in the market for a no 10 type player then I would be amazed if he is looking for somebody whose best quality is that he can defend from the front....if he identifies a player with the other qualities needed my guess would be that he would go for someone who he thinks he can develop to do the more defensive side of the role.

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Post by claretspice » Tue May 08, 2018 12:55 pm

TVC15 wrote:Why ? What no 10 do you think I'm thinking of ?

I`ve never said that I want a lazy no 10 who does not track back - I simply said that is not their most important quality.

Do you think the most important quality of Salah, Mane and Firmino is their ability to track back and defend from the front ? The fact that they can do it very well is of course very important to the success and style of play of Liverpool.

As I said we have already tried someone in Hendrick who does the defending from the front more than adequately - the only problem is that he struggles with the other aspects of this role which is why it has not worked.

I do not know whether Shaquri can defend from the front as we need him to - if he cannot then I doubt whether Dyche will be interested. What we do know is he has got the quality to do the attacking part of the role.

If Dyche is genuinely in the market for a no 10 type player then I would be amazed if he is looking for somebody whose best quality is that he can defend from the front....if he identifies a player with the other qualities needed my guess would be that he would go for someone who he thinks he can develop to do the more defensive side of the role.
I'm not saying you want to do have a "lazy" number 10 in mind. Just that as you say yourself, you envisage us being in the market for a number 10 who isn't necessarily immediately suited to the "defensive" demands we place on whoever plays closest to the main striker (but who has the creative ability to compensate, as it were).

That's what I doubt. I don't see Dyche ever indulging a player who can't or won't adapt very quickly to what we expect of every outfield player (he didn't with Defour - he signed him and then preferred Hendrick for a large chunk of last season because he adapted quicker to our demands). I think Dyche will always want his second striker/advanced midfielder to be someone who can do an awful lot of ugly stuff because that is fundamental to how we match up with opponents in midfield when we haven't got the ball, and we always start from the proposition we'll block up the middle of the pitch when under pressure and force teams to go round us.

Dyche has pretty much said this. He said there are 2 or 3 ways of playing "number 10", and he described Hendrick as being asked to play as a "running 10" rather than a "creative" or "technical" 10. What I'm saying is I don't expect Dyche to change what he asks in that position. If he's going to place a greater emphasis on creativity, I suspect he'll do it by giving one (but not both) of his wide players more licence to bomb on, not by compromising on the defensive side of his "number 10" (which as I've said before, I think is a misleading badge).

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Post by TVC15 » Tue May 08, 2018 1:13 pm

What I envisage us being in the market for in this position is something different to what we have now in the current squad.
I think we have seen the end of Hendrick playing in that position - which I assume also means the end of a "running 10" (or else why not carry on with Jeff ?)

I`m not saying that he will play anyone in that position who cannot defend - I'm saying he might possibly look for a player where he can develop this side of his play. We know that anyone who plays for his team will need to be fit and willing to track back.

Its hard to think of many players who have the creative and defensive qualities required at the high standard of the league we are in - which we could buy at less than £20m / £60k a week (which I think is about our limit for next year)

Or put simply and forgetting about the semantics of traditional versus modern no 10s etc.....we are looking for someone who is a bigger goal scoring (or goal assisting) threat to play up front than we have now.

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Post by claretspice » Tue May 08, 2018 1:24 pm

Agree with a lot of that TVC15, but I don't think we've seen the last of Hendrick in that role. Admittedly on a bad day, he was our man of the match on Sunday after being restored to that position.

We might sign someone who can be developed in that position - but I doubt they'll be a marquee signing, because they won't play until they are up to scratch in that department. Its not just about willingness, its about having the tactical understanding and engine to do it. You're absolutely right that finding a player who combines both creative and defensive qualities is nigh on impossible, which is why I still think that Dyche will go for the latter over the former when it comes to it (or perhaps sign someone like Rodriguez who is more of a forward, so adds a goal threat, but also knows how to drop off and will still work hard).

If we are going to play 4-3-3/4-5-1 next season, then I think the greater goalscoring emphasis will firstly come from the wide players, and I think we may see more willingness to let the likes of Brady, JBG and Lennon bomb on next season with the protection of 3 genuine central midfielders. By my reckoning we've got about 2 goals from wide midfield all season. That should be closer to 15.

I wouldn't argue that Hendrick (and Defour, actually) should be aiming to score more goals next season and if we do see Hendrick in that role, we should be expecting more of a goal threat.

But none of this brings us back to Shaquiri as a good idea. We do need another option in that sort of position - the alternative earlier in the season was Arfield, and actually his ability to read the bounce and also play with his back to goal made him quite effective as a foil for Wood in that position. But I think its more someone in the Arfield mould, rather than someone in the Shaquiri mould, who is likely to be in our minds.

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Post by TVC15 » Tue May 08, 2018 1:51 pm

I did not see the game on Sunday but I thought that Hendrick played out wide when he came on ?

Even if he did play in that role I don`t think we can take a game like Sunday as any kind of marker - from what I read and heard from friends who watched the game we could have been beaten by 10 and it was by distance the worst performance of the season. I just assumed from the marks given to Jeff he was less awful than everyone else.

As for Arfield don`t get me wrong I love Scotty and he has been a great player for us...but not in this role. When Arfield played in this role (or indeed in centre midfield) I think he lacked the awareness of what was going on around him, gave the ball away far too often and was guilty of trying far too many "blind" flicks which were either poor decisions or nobody was on his wavelength.

As said I don`t know whether Shaquri is the answer - he certainly has the creative quality to improve us in this department and he's very strong and difficult to get off the ball. At his wages I suspect he could be too big of a risk to hope he can develop the other side of his game.

The games I have seen Fulham play Tom Cairney looks a very good player - if they do not go up then he could be an option. Though its possibly going to take the best part of £20m (and possibly more) to secure him.

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Post by timshorts » Tue May 08, 2018 2:00 pm

Right_winger wrote:Shaqiri is a world beater on his day, but I couldn’t think of a less Dyche type player than this. Small, lazy and a bit of a maverick. However when he’s on it there’s few can match his skill and ability to unlock any defence.
I was listening to 5-live or the other one this morning when some Stoke fans were ringing in to agree with the comments about lack of effort that Butland and Adams have come up with in the last couple of days. One or two were bemoaning the loss of Walters, but I got the impression from what they were saying that Shaqiri fell into the group of 7 or 8 that were trying, not the bunch of slackers that ultimately saw them drop.

Where now for the likes of Berahino?
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Post by jlup1980 » Tue May 08, 2018 2:37 pm

TVC15 wrote:Not sure that the most important quality of a no 10 is that he can track back !
When Jeff played no 10 for us people were critical at his forward play and not his fitness or ability to track back - which he continued to do ok.
You've got some of the contributors to this forum bang to rights with this!! On one hand Shaquri wouldn't track back enough whereas on the other Hendrick wouldn't get forward / create enough!

For what it's worth I think he'd be an outstanding signing and an upgrade on any attacking player we have. I actually think he does care. He was the only one trying to win the game vs Palace at the weekend for starters. He certainly can't be accused of downing tools and if he was brought into our tight knit squad I think he could really thrive. It sounds like Stoke have been anything but that this season!

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Post by claretspice » Tue May 08, 2018 2:54 pm

jlup1980 wrote:You've got some of the contributors to this forum bang to rights with this!! !
Not only posters on this forum but seemingly also, as pointed out above, Sean Dyche, who addressed this very question in January and basically said the way he's set the team up, running and doing the dirty stuff is more important to his number 10 than creativity.

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Post by TVC15 » Tue May 08, 2018 3:57 pm

claretspice wrote:Not only posters on this forum but seemingly also, as pointed out above, Sean Dyche, who addressed this very question in January and basically said the way he's set the team up, running and doing the dirty stuff is more important to his number 10 than creativity.
Is that what he really said ?
Do you have a link for the interview ?

Even if it is then it does not mean he cannot develop / change his approach. He has said often that he is still developing as a manager and his team are developing and changing in terms of the players and style of football.

He will always want players to work hard we know that - but I do not believe he signed players like Robby Brady and Steven Defour for their ability to run and do dirty work....both players were bought for their creativity and then as we have seen with both players doing the other less glamorous stuff and getting to his required fitness levels takes time.

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Post by KRBFC » Tue May 08, 2018 4:10 pm

TVC15 wrote:Not sure that the most important quality of a no 10 is that he can track back !
When Jeff played no 10 for us people were critical at his forward play and not his fitness or ability to track back - which he continued to do ok.

It’s a very specialist position - ability to find space, first touch, play in others, score and make goals etc.

Yes you would ideally want them to be able to track back when needed and in times of a match when we are having to dig in. Shaquri seems to do that when needed for Switzerland and Stoke but of course it’s not his biggest quality by a long way. He does seem to take the leader role on the pitch for club and country and i’m not convinced he has the poor attitude some seem to be implying.

If he is a wrong un - simple - we will not be signing him.
Personally I think he might be out of our reach anyway but if we did sign him I can’t believe he would not improve us.
Shaqiri isn't a number 10 though, he's a wide player.

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Post by Woodleyclaret » Tue May 08, 2018 4:25 pm

A class act in a poor side.I would sign him and Joe Allen in a heartbeat

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Post by TVC15 » Tue May 08, 2018 4:31 pm

KRBFC wrote:Shaqiri isn't a number 10 though, he's a wide player.
He's played as an attacking midfielder and also out wide. Invariably he drifts into the centre and i have never seen him hugging the touch line or playing like a traditional wide man.

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Post by DCWat » Tue May 08, 2018 4:57 pm

I don’t expect huge changes in style but would expect to see more in terms of evolution. As defensively sound as we have been, we have to start to become more of a threat at the other end.

Finding that balance may mean a bit of adjustment in how we play or by adding some greater quality to certain positions.

We are somewhat restricted in our recruitment by being wedded to having the right characters. It’s served us very well but there might come a time where Dyche needs to carefully adapt those principles and manage one or two ‘awkward characters’ because of what they bring to the squad technically.

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Post by boatshed bill » Tue May 08, 2018 7:12 pm

Harry Enfield lookalike.

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Re: Xerdan shaquri

Post by paulus the woodgnome » Tue May 08, 2018 7:14 pm

I was in the Hilton in Southampton the weekend of Southampton v Stoke last season. By chance, I and Mrs Woodgnome ended up sitting right next to Mark Hughes and the Stoke players at brekky. There was a table for Sparky and the other "coaches". There was a table for the Stoke players. However there was just one player sitting on his own. Can you guess which one that was? And yes, I was wearing with pride one of my Burnley T shirts! UTC!

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Re: Xerdan shaquri

Post by CombatClaret » Tue May 08, 2018 7:21 pm

I have him pegged as a Mahrez replacement with Leicester board pocketing the leftover cash.

No doubt will be a lot of interest and I'd be surprised If we beat teams with deeper pockets who will be desperate not to underachieve again eg: West Ham, Everton,

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Re: Xerdan shaquri

Post by claretspice » Tue May 08, 2018 8:14 pm

TVC15 wrote:Is that what he really said ?
Do you have a link for the interview ?
Yes it is. See link http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sp ... number_10/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Let me quote: “You can have a defensive number 10, you can have a number 10 who’s a creator, you can have a number 10 who’s in there to sit on their deep lying midfielder, which a lot have now, or to break off their deep-lying midfielder into the pockets. So there’s many different ways of playing it. He (Hendrick) is more of a running number 10, he’ll join in, back the play, recover when he needs to, rather than a technical number 10 who we know there’s many of around the world who more or less wait in the slot and you get the ball to them. Jeff will go and work for the ball."
TVC15 wrote:He will always want players to work hard we know that - but I do not believe he signed players like Robby Brady and Steven Defour for their ability to run and do dirty work....both players were bought for their creativity and then as we have seen with both players doing the other less glamorous stuff and getting to his required fitness levels takes time.
Of course he didn't sign them solely for their ability to run and do dirty work - but he wouldn't have signed them if they didn't have that side of the game, however talented they may be with the ball at their feet - and he didn't play Defour in particular whilst he felt he was still adjusting to those demands. Dyche may be evolving as a manager, but if his evolution involves compromising on that core principal, I'll be absolutely flabbergasted. Its the bedrock of his, and our success.

I also don't buy this idea that we'll need to compromise on that - or the characters we sign - as part of our evolution. I don't see any evidence to support that idea. It was floated last summer, and we've proved it wrong by evolving to a place none of us dreamt of reaching this season. We've gone from the likes of George Boyd to Aaron Lennon without losing the good stuff that Boyd brought to the party but we've clearly gone up a notch in terms of quality. I don't see why anyone would assume we've exhausted that line of development yet.

The highest point Burnley can ever reach is the point where we get the best combination of technical quality and athleticism available amongst players who are willing to the running and dirty work. Shaquiri is an interesting one because he's part of an excellent case study in the problems of mixing a core of players who still have that aptitude for hard work, with players who are more gifted but lack that attitude. The fact that Stoke are likely to finish bottom of the league ought to be a cautionary tale for anyone thinking we might evolve in a similar direction - down that road lies a fractured squad, an enormous wage bill and ultimately relegation.

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Re: Xerdan shaquri

Post by KRBFC » Tue May 08, 2018 8:19 pm

TVC15 wrote:He's played as an attacking midfielder and also out wide. Invariably he drifts into the centre and i have never seen him hugging the touch line or playing like a traditional wide man.
He's very much like JBG/Wallace/Robben, left footed most effective cutting in from the right hand side of midfield. I've never seen him play centrally as a number 10.

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Re: Xerdan shaquri

Post by TVC15 » Tue May 08, 2018 9:06 pm

Thing is Claretspice Brady and Defour did not have that side to their game - hence why they were in and out of the team for a good while.

That’s a very fullsome explanation of Dyche’s aporoach to this role but does not really explain why he decided to dispense with Hendrick in that role several weeks ago. Surely it can’t have been because he did not run enough ?

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Re: Xerdan shaquri

Post by tiger76 » Tue May 08, 2018 9:13 pm

DCWat wrote:I don’t expect huge changes in style but would expect to see more in terms of evolution. As defensively sound as we have been, we have to start to become more of a threat at the other end.

Finding that balance may mean a bit of adjustment in how we play or by adding some greater quality to certain positions.

We are somewhat restricted in our recruitment by being wedded to having the right characters. It’s served us very well but there might come a time where Dyche needs to carefully adapt those principles and manage one or two ‘awkward characters’ because of what they bring to the squad technically.
Just looking at Shaqiri's stats this season he has a 1 in 4 goal ratio,which for a team bottom of the league for a wide man is decent,Defour has been brilliant for us when he is on the pitch,but he is injury prone alas and if he is out we badly lack creativity.If Sean thinks shaqiri can offer us something different going forward i will back his judgement,wages could be an issue but the lure of European football could swing this transfer in our favour.

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Re: Xerdan shaquri

Post by Claret&blue123 » Tue May 08, 2018 9:16 pm

Quality player if we are able to sign him

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Re: Xerdan shaquri

Post by BennyD » Tue May 08, 2018 9:20 pm

In SD we trust.

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Re: Xerdan shaquri

Post by claretspice » Tue May 08, 2018 9:25 pm

TVC15 wrote:Thing is Claretspice Brady and Defour did not have that side to their game - hence why they were in and out of the team for a good while.

That’s a very fullsome explanation of Dyche’s aporoach to this role but does not really explain why he decided to dispense with Hendrick in that role several weeks ago. Surely it can’t have been because he did not run enough ?
He dispensed with Hendrick because he changed the system to accommodate 2 forwards who were in excellent form, and possibly also with Defour put because he lacked the incisive passer to make 451/433 most effective. Not too sure it was any reflection of what Dyche wanted from his "number 10".

As for Defour and Brady - they had to fit in. Once they did, they played. Brady always clearly had the right attitude, Defour probably did too (although admittedly he had a wobble last year). The question was when they'd be right, not if.

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