Tommy Robinson

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sun May 27, 2018 1:40 pm

Media blackout isn't allowed for Cliff Richards, but it is for these people.

Interesting.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sun May 27, 2018 2:29 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I've found a flaw

Live streaming was it.

Opinion piece to camera then.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sun May 27, 2018 3:48 pm

I read a piece in the burnley express last week about nelson and briefield, it made reference to serious incidents whereby police had been subjected to torrents of abuse and had stones hurled at them by large groups of young asian males. The piece described how this occured as officers tried to make enquiries in the area in relation to an incident with vehicles on colne road, and were prevented from doing so by what was in essence a mob.
when you think about it, that is a very bad situation, it suggests that lawlessness is rife and intimidation is the norm.
The article concluded with quotes from community leaders and councillors but it was achingly vague and tiresome,
If the perception of the public is one of treading on eggshells, then problems will not go away.
Naturally, the extremely serious stories hit the national press, but the debates or any chance of serious dialouge are scuppered immediately with accusations of racism. That is disasterous. People who have genuine concerns shouldn't be branded as right wing thugs simply for asking questions.
If this trend continues, then figures like tommy robinson will be seen as the only option for voicing a counter view.
That is also wrong, because as has been mentioned, there is a lot of middle ground to be covered, and nobody can enter that space without risking being ridiculously labelled by critics from the liberal thinking left in British politics.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun May 27, 2018 3:53 pm

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:Live streaming was it.

Opinion piece to camera then.

I'm just not sure he wants to limit his audience to only those on the far-right who can read.

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Sun May 27, 2018 3:57 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I'm just not sure he wants to limit his audience to only those on the far-right who can read.

well that covers you then

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun May 27, 2018 4:09 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:well that covers you then

Hey! It's out of line to call me far-right.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun May 27, 2018 4:18 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I'm just not sure he wants to limit his audience to only those on the far-right who can read.

Oh look, another debate turned into the boring old left v right by Mr Turtle himself. Do you put your left sock on before the right?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun May 27, 2018 4:24 pm

KRBFC wrote:Oh look, another debate turned into the boring old left v right by Mr Turtle himself. Do you put your left sock on before the right?

Yes. My left foot is injured so i have to check on the sock pressure to see if they're suitable for the day. Then i put right sock on before finally putting my centrist sock on when i arrive at the missus' house to make sure something like you doesn't happen again.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sun May 27, 2018 4:39 pm

Stacey Dooley-A racist from Luton ?

https://youtu.be/b2nlIfn8tNA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sun May 27, 2018 4:47 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I'm just not sure he wants to limit his audience to only those on the far-right who can read.

I get you.

Controversy sells.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sun May 27, 2018 5:54 pm

https://youtu.be/d7fpI8RCNBI" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sun May 27, 2018 5:56 pm

It is so lazy,easy & cowardly to label people 'Racist'

SammyBoy · Post by **SammyBoy** » Sun May 27, 2018 6:04 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:I read a piece in the burnley express last week about nelson and briefield, it made reference to serious incidents whereby police had been subjected to torrents of abuse and had stones hurled at them by large groups of young asian males. The piece described how this occured as officers tried to make enquiries in the area in relation to an incident with vehicles on colne road, and were prevented from doing so by what was in essence a mob.
when you think about it, that is a very bad situation, it suggests that lawlessness is rife and intimidation is the norm.
The article concluded with quotes from community leaders and councillors but it was achingly vague and tiresome,
If the perception of the public is one of treading on eggshells, then problems will not go away.
Naturally, the extremely serious stories hit the national press, but the debates or any chance of serious dialouge are scuppered immediately with accusations of racism. That is disasterous. People who have genuine concerns shouldn't be branded as right wing thugs simply for asking questions.
If this trend continues, then figures like tommy robinson will be seen as the only option for voicing a counter view.
That is also wrong, because as has been mentioned, there is a lot of middle ground to be covered, and nobody can enter that space without risking being ridiculously labelled by critics from the liberal thinking left in British politics.

I can't find anything which looks like the article in question online, would be interested to read it if you have a link?

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Sun May 27, 2018 6:07 pm

Dazzler wrote:It is so lazy,easy & cowardly to label people 'Racist'

Is it cowardly to label a racist “Racist”? Are you suggesting we should never use the term again?

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sun May 27, 2018 6:09 pm

Wouldn't it have been 'wonderful' If all these grooming gangs had never been exposed by 'racist Islamaphobes'.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sun May 27, 2018 6:17 pm

It will be wonderful when all the UK 'racists' shut the feck up about Immigration & Demographics.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun May 27, 2018 6:41 pm

Dazzler, do you look at ClaretMoffitt and think "i want to be respected just like that guy"?

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sun May 27, 2018 6:46 pm

https://www.burnleyexpress.net/news/cri ... -1-9181444" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

here's the link sammyboy.

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Sun May 27, 2018 6:49 pm

Imploding Turtle, what problems do you have, apart from being blind, unemployed, and a moron.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sun May 27, 2018 6:54 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Dazzler, do you look at ClaretMoffitt and think "i want to be respected just like that guy"?

I honestly couldn't give A sh!t....I have never demanded or sought respect...

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sun May 27, 2018 7:04 pm

What irritates me is folk who try and belittle those who have genuine concerns regarding Immigration,demographics etc...

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Sun May 27, 2018 7:14 pm

How many times, and for how many different crimes, has this knobhead gone to jail?

They should be throwing away the key.

And people give him money. Unbelievable.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sun May 27, 2018 7:19 pm

Dazzler wrote:What irritates me is folk who try and belittle those who have genuine concerns regarding Immigration,demographics etc...

But we've plenty of room, and they all become brain surgeons, doctors or TV presenters anyway.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sun May 27, 2018 7:22 pm

Walton wrote:How many times, and for how many different crimes, has this knobhead gone to jail?

They should be throwing away the key.

And people give him money. Unbelievable.

He has never been charged for anything 'Racist'

Unbelievable!!!!

ClaretDiver · Post by **ClaretDiver** » Sun May 27, 2018 7:22 pm

I am about to have a FB cull as I have many 'friends' supporting this awful human being!

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sun May 27, 2018 7:24 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:But we've plenty of room, and they all become brain surgeons, doctors or TV presenters anyway.

Well 'you learn something new everyday'

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sun May 27, 2018 7:25 pm

ClaretDiver wrote:I am about to have a FB cull as I have many 'friends' supporting this awful human being!

Why not try & educate them ?

ClaretDiver · Post by **ClaretDiver** » Sun May 27, 2018 7:29 pm

Dazzler wrote:Why not try & educate them ?

Because they are 'racial bigots' funny thing is they are not even from the UK...2 from Canada and 3 from France.....and that's just the start....

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sun May 27, 2018 7:32 pm

Walton wrote:How many times, and for how many different crimes, has this knobhead gone to jail?

They should be throwing away the key.

And people give him money. Unbelievable.

There are people walking the streets with dozens more convictions then he has.

At what point do we decide to leave them in there?

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sun May 27, 2018 7:35 pm

ClaretDiver wrote:Because they are 'racial bigots' funny thing is they are not even from the UK..

Keep 'friends' with them;you may learn something

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sun May 27, 2018 7:47 pm

Walton wrote:They should be throwing away the key.

OMG!!!
He's not a Peado is he ?
Or a granny mugger ?

Or the worst of all....an advocate of Free Speech ?

morpheus2 · Post by **morpheus2** » Sun May 27, 2018 7:54 pm

Dazzler wrote:OMG!!!
He's not a Peado is he ?
Or a granny mugger ?

Or the worst of all....an advocate of Free Speech ?

No, but he filled a mortgage form in wrong once.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sun May 27, 2018 7:58 pm

morpheus2 wrote:No, but he filled a mortgage form in wrong once.

I wondered if someone would bring that 'debate winner' up

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun May 27, 2018 7:58 pm

Dazzler wrote:OMG!!!
He's not a Peado is he ?
Or a granny mugger ?

Or the worst of all....an advocate of Free Speech ?

This was on May 22nd:

"In short, Mr. Yaxley-Lennon, turn up at another court, refer to people as "Muslim paedophiles, Muslim
rapists" and so on and so forth while trials are ongoing and before there has been a finding by a jury
that that is what they are, and you will find yourself inside. Do you understand? Thank you very much. "

A few days later he got arrested for doing the same ****. He knew what he was doing.

https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content ... 170522.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun May 27, 2018 8:00 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:Imploding Turtle, what problems do you have, apart from being blind, unemployed, and a moron.

lol

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sun May 27, 2018 8:01 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:This was on May 22nd:

"In short, Mr. Yaxley-Lennon, turn up at another court, refer to people as "Muslim paedophiles, Muslim
rapists" and so on and so forth while trials are ongoing and before there has been a finding by a jury
that that is what they are, and you will find yourself inside. Do you understand? Thank you very much. "

A few days later he got arrested for doing the same ****. He knew what he was doing.

https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content ... 170522.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

OMG!!!! Throw away the key

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sun May 27, 2018 8:05 pm

So the question is, if they're all convicted of the crimes they stand accused of, does that mean Yaxley-Lennon is vindicated?

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Sun May 27, 2018 8:07 pm

deanothedino wrote:Racists like racists.

Lots and lots showing their faces these days too.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun May 27, 2018 8:09 pm

Dazzler wrote:OMG!!!! Throw away the key

So he was waned against doing a thing under the threat that doing a thing would mean he'd go to jail. He then did the thing. Now he's in jail.

You claim to support the rule of law, i assume. So why do you think this particular criminal be allowed to get away with wilfully defying the law?

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sun May 27, 2018 8:11 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:So he was waned against doing a thing under the threat that doing a thing would mean he'd go to jail. He then did the thing. Now he's in jail.

You claim to support the rule of law, i assume. So why do you think this particular criminal be allowed to get away with wilfully defying the law?

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sun May 27, 2018 8:14 pm

Walton wrote:Lots and lots showing their faces these days too.

What in your opinion constitutes being a racist ?

Please make a list;as long as your arm if you wish...

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sun May 27, 2018 8:18 pm

Dazzler wrote:What in your opinion constitutes being a racist ?

A white Burnley fan who voted Brexit, loves Ashley Barnes, will be wanting England to win in the World Cup and doesn't wear sandals.

morpheus2 · Post by **morpheus2** » Sun May 27, 2018 8:18 pm

Dazzler wrote:What in your opinion constitutes being a racist ?

Please make a list;as long as your arm if you wish...

Someone who knows too much about Islam is generally accepted as one of the criteria.

bumba · Post by **bumba** » Sun May 27, 2018 8:20 pm

It's not racist seeing your country being ruined by immigration and wanting to stop it.
All this living amongst each other different races, religions etc doesnt work as much as people want it too it just doesnt.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun May 27, 2018 8:23 pm

bumba wrote:It's not racist seeing your country being ruined by immigration and wanting to stop it.
All this living amongst each other different races, religions etc doesnt work as much as people want it too it just doesnt.

But don't dare call you racist. right?

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sun May 27, 2018 8:23 pm

morpheus2 wrote:Someone who knows too much about Islam is generally accepted as one of the criteria.

So you would include Ayaan Hirsi Ali & Salman Rushdie in that Criteria ?

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sun May 27, 2018 8:23 pm

"Name?"

"Bin Ont Turf"

"And your specialist subject, Bin?"

"Sandals"

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sun May 27, 2018 8:24 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:

But don't dare call you racist. right?

Just that specific part?

Different races bring with them different cultural values etc.
Sometimes they just don't always mix well with new countries cultural values.
FGM being an example.

That isn't racist in itself.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sun May 27, 2018 8:34 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:"Name?"

"Bin Ont Turf"

"And your specialist subject, Bin?"

"Sandals"

Actually it's the..... 'politics of the 21st century internet camping sandal wearers'.

morpheus2 · Post by **morpheus2** » Sun May 27, 2018 8:35 pm

Dazzler wrote:So you would include Ayaan Hirsi Ali & Salman Rushdie in that Criteria ?

Yep, Islam has attained race status, any critic of Islam is racist. Ayaan Hirsi Ali as an apostate and an avid opponent of FGM doubly so and she's even been called a misogynist for her opposition of the niqab and FGM. Rushdie of course created a parody of what is considered a real event in the Satanic Verses and incurred the wrath of hundreds of millions and someone called Yusuf Islam who was formerly a peace loving hippie who read the Qur'an and became a wannabe killer for Allah....and yes, Rushdie being of non Muslim majority Hindustani origins also qualifies as racist.