Tommy Robinson

[Imploding Turtle]

Bad move...countries that don't have such a ban will probably see an increase of women covering up in protest.

And quite ******* right, they should.

[Dazzler]

Can you provide some kind of evidence that shows that's even true?

It would hardly be headline news

[Dazzler]

Can you provide some kind of evidence that shows that's even true? And i don't just mean a news report of one imam choosing in one area, i want supporting evidence for your claim that it happens up and down the country.

Debunk it

[Dazzler]

What about this Imam who educates the Police & government on Islam & openly admits that he would execute gays.

Debunk it

[Hapag Lloyd]

Can you provide some kind of evidence that shows that's even true? And i don't just mean a news report of one imam choosing in one area, i want supporting evidence for your claim that it happens up and down the country.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/12 ... atrol/amp/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Lauren12]

I just pray (no pun intended) for the day, when it dawns on them ('them' being the followers of sky fairies and silly old books) and they realise it's all a load of hog wash, and then we can all carry on living normal, peaceful lives. That's all.

Suppose this comment will upset some, but seriously, who gives a fu-ck.

[Greenmile]

Why is it harder for an atheist to define evil?

Do you believe religion has the monopoly on the definition of good and evil?

Do you know what the religious definition of 'good' and 'evil' is and do you believe it is the correct definition?

By 'religion' I mean the Middle East Abrahamic desert dogmas.

A religious person can simply say God is good and anything that is against God’s will is evil. An atheist can’t.

Personally, as an atheist myself, I’m not convinced good and evil even exist in an absolute, objective way so I would say there is no correct definition.

[Greenmile]

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/12 ... atrol/amp/

That’s your evidence? One copper in a Breitbart article? I’d say that’s more like evidence that some (at least one) coppers are lying, far-right propaganda reading, Islamophobes.

Still, it’s more evidence than Dazzler has provided for his claims that he’s asked us to debunk.

[HatfieldClaret]

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/12 ... atrol/amp/

What rubbish. I had heard of Breitbart before but never looked them up, but if people rely on this as a news source then they will only learn crap.

The photo was from years ago when radicals were banned from the Finsbury Park mosque and so they prayed in the street in protest. It lasted for a few Fridays only.

Police in London were told not to travel to/from work in 'half blues' a few years ago because threats were made to kill/kidnap? a police officer, so usual safety advice was given. The threats were later found to be someone ****stirring and totally unfounded.

I'd stick to the Sun if I were you.

[Devils_Advocate]

What about this Imam who educates the Police & government on Islam & openly admits that he would execute gays.

Debunk it

What about the senior police officer who admitted his police force deliberately target black and brown males and falsify evidence against them because they believe they are all inherently evil and are better off locked up

[BOYSIE31]

We will have a muslim PM in the next 10 years and no i am not racist.

[HatfieldClaret]

We will have a muslim PM in the next 10 years and no i am not racist.

If a Muslim PM makes a good job of it then it ain't a problem.

We've had Catholic, C of E and Jewish PMs so far. They didn't all do a good job.

[ClaretMoffitt]

We will have a muslim PM in the next 10 years and no i am not racist.

As more and more time passes by, I sort of hope for an islamic caliphate to be established in the UK. They know how to deal with soy boys.

DOWN WITH SOYBOYS

[Falcon]

Soy boy? That's a new one on me.

A quick Google has found this as the top result:

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 27816.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

There’s nothing manlier than dairy, right? What could be a better display of masculinity than downing a pint of whole milk?

This is the bizarre thinking behind the far right’s new favourite insult: "soy boy".

It's becoming more widely used online and can be used as an adjective too, with people or actions being described as "very soy."

The idea is that if you drink dairy-free milk alternatives, you are obviously weak and feminine (based on the thinking that soy products increase men’s oestrogen levels, even though this hasn’t been scientifically proven).

And then there’s the fact that soy is often used as a meat alternative, and as we all know, real men eat meat. And women only ever eat sad plates of salad.

According to Urban Dictionary, the term soy boy means: “Slang used to describe males who completely and utterly lack all necessary masculine qualities. This pathetic state is usually achieved by an over-indulgence of emasculating products and/or ideologies.

“The origin of the term derives from the negative effects soy consumption has been proven to have on the male physique and libido.

“The average soy boy is a feminist, nonathletic, has never been in a fight, will probably marry the first girl that has sex with him, and likely reduces all his arguments to labeling the opposition as ‘Nazis’.”

The term has largely taken the place of the word “cuck”, which has for a while been the insult of choice of many far right people - it’s short for “cuckold” and is used to imply that a man’s wife or girlfriend is cheating on him with a more masculine male.

For the men who use terms like cuck and soy boy, being called anything related to femininity is the ultimate insult. God forbid anyone be an actual woman.

The term has become increasingly popular on Twitter, Reddit and YouTube comments, with trolls regularly criticising others they deem to be weak as "soy boys".

Where soy boy originated from, however, is unclear.

Far-right extremists targeting UK as they 'weaponise internet culture'

The Daily Dot suggests that it could have been started by Mike Cernovich, a far right social media personality, who’s been using the term to insult people on Twitter for months.

But YouTube political commentator James Allsup, who was caught protesting with white supremacists in Charlottesville, has claimed he invented the insult.

Outside far right communities, there isn’t much awareness of the term. But if soy boy goes the way of cuck, it could enter the mainstream before too long.

But cuck was ultimately commandeered by the general public and used as an insult against the far right, removing its offensiveness.

Whether the same will happen to soy boy remains to be seen

[UpTheBeehole]

We will have a muslim PM in the next 10 years and no i am not racist.

Bearing in mind there is only scheduled to be two general elections in the next 10 years, please could you tell us who it will be?

[ClaretMoffitt]

Soy boy? That's a new one on me.

A quick Google has found this as the top result:

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 27816.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Its a lot better than that wuss term "gammon" that all the soy drinkers love to throw around.

Gammon itself is a masculine food. Its the high-school jock of dietary cuisine

Soy is the virgin food of incels, male feminists, and effeminate men who work in cities wearing tasselled loafers with no socks and weigh less than 140lbs.

[Rick_Muller]

Bearing in mind there is only scheduled to be two general elections in the next 10 years, please could you tell us who it will be?

I think the inference may be Sajid Javid

[UpTheBeehole]

There's an EDL march going on in Leeds right now.

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/ ... -1-9189920

Why aren't they all at work?

[ClaretMoffitt]

There's an EDL march going on in Leeds right now.

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/ ... -1-9189920

Why aren't they all at work?

The irony of a leftist complaining about protesters not being at work.

[UpTheBeehole]

Leftism is all about the workers. Do you not know anything?

[ClaretMoffitt]

Leftism is all about the workers. Do you not know anything?

Since when has taxing working people on money they earn to give to those that don't been a policy for "workers"

[UpTheBeehole]

You literally know nothing about leftism do you.

[Rick_Muller]

Leftism is all about the workers. Do you not know anything?

Since when has taxing working people on money they earn to give to those that don't been a policy for "workers"

You literally know nothing about leftism do you.

FFS get a room...!

[Falcon]

Its a lot better than that wuss term "gammon" that all the soy drinkers love to throw around.

Gammon itself is a masculine food. Its the high-school jock of dietary cuisine

Soy is the virgin food of incels, male feminists, and effeminate men who work in cities wearing tasselled loafers with no socks and weigh less than 140lbs.

Gammon is a poor man's beef, the food of champions.

[ClaretMoffitt]

Gammon is a poor man's beef, the food of champions.

I didn't say it topped the tables don't get me wrong.

[claretandy]

Soy boy? That's a new one on me.

A quick Google has found this as the top result:

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 27816.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Sounds like it's describing james obrien down to a tee.

[nil_desperandum]

If a Muslim PM makes a good job of it then it ain't a problem.

We've had Catholic, C of E and Jewish PMs so far. They didn't all do a good job.

We haven't had a Roman Catholic, and it's not entirely clear for all sorts of constitutional reasons whether we can have one, because the monarch can't be advised by an RC.

That's why Blair waited to convert until after his resignation so that the matter wouldn't arise.

[Falcon]

That Blair thing a bit mad when you come to think of it. We have some weird archaic rules in this country.

[Falcon]

Goes without saying that the religion a politician holds is somewhere very near the bottom of my list when I'm consider whether to vote for them (although I will choose the atheist in a dead heat between two candidates).

[ClaretMoffitt]

Sounds like it's describing james obrien down to a tee.

A bit but I think its a lot more symbolic of Owen Jones.

His twitter profile is just him and a cat.

He also cries... alot.

[pushpinpussy]

I cant believe the amount of racist people on this board. its the year 2018

[ClaretMoffitt]

I cant believe the amount of racist people on this board. its the year 2018

Well done, you have correctly identified the current year.

[Greenmile]

Its a lot better than that wuss term "gammon" that all the soy drinkers love to throw around.

Gammon itself is a masculine food. Its the high-school jock of dietary cuisine

Soy is the virgin food of incels, male feminists, and effeminate men who work in cities wearing tasselled loafers with no socks and weigh less than 140lbs.

Is that Independent article a fair summary of the term “soy boy”?

Genuine question, as I’ve not really seen or heard the term used by anyone except you before (I don’t go on Twitter or Reddit much), so I presume you’re the guy to ask.

[Falcon]

I'm not CM but you can tell from context of his post that it is aimed as an insult so it wasn't a surprise to find out what it meant.

[Greenmile]

Yeah, I don’t really get why being called effeminate (or vegan for that matter) is such an insult, unless you’re a misogynist or a homophobe. I’d much rather be in touch with my feminine side than a “high school jock” type who’s more used to using their fists than their brain.

[ClaretMoffitt]

Yeah, I don’t really get why being called effeminate (or vegan for that matter) is such an insult, unless you’re a misogynist or a homophobe. I’d much rather be in touch with my feminine side than a “high school jock” type who’s more used to using their fists than their brain.

I'm not all about this new fad that weak, effeminate and sensitive men are to be celebrated.

[Dazzler]

We've had Catholic, C of E and Jewish PMs so far. They didn't all do a good job.

Disraeli converted to the Anglican Church when he was 12

[Falcon]

I'm not all about this new fad that weak, effeminate and sensitive men are to be celebrated.

Denigrating them with insulting terms isn't helping though. It's like the whole Gammon thing. Both right and left fringes are just coming across as high school morons trading insults.

[Greenmile]

I'm not all about this new fad that weak, effeminate and sensitive men are to be celebrated.

1 “Weak” is a vague term. Physical strength isn’t the only kind of strength. Do you only respect people who would be good in a fist-fight? Presumably you would consider people like Stephen Hawking to be unworthy of being celebrated.

2 what exactly is wrong with being effeminate and sensitive? do you prefer people who are insensitive?

3 nobody said they should be celebrated. I just don’t get why it should be considered an insult.

Edit - 4 how new is this “fad” exactly?

[Rileybobs]

There's an EDL march going on in Leeds right now.

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/ ... -1-9189920

Why aren't they all at work?

At about 5.30 I did walk past a knuckle head singing ‘you can shove your f’ing hijab up your arse’ which I thought was very strange, but now it makes sense.

[Dazzler]

At about 5.30 I did walk past a knuckle head singing ‘you can shove your f’ing hijab up your arse’ which I thought was very strange, but now it makes sense.

Have you never sang "you can shove your Blackpool tower up your arse" ?

[pushpinpussy]

Well done, you have correctly identified the current year.

And the biggest racist on here replies. You should be embarrassed. Your parents must be disgusted by you if you have any. Probably brought up in a children’s home

[ClaretMoffitt]

And the biggest racist on here replies. You should be embarrassed. Your parents must be disgusted by you if you have any. Probably brought up in a children’s home

Ever the charmer.

My parents are burning crosses outside in their nazi uniforms right now actually, I'll go ask them.

[Greenmile]

And the biggest racist on here replies. You should be embarrassed. Your parents must be disgusted by you if you have any. Probably brought up in a children’s home

Wow. I mean, I’m no fan of CM’s politics myself, but don’t you think that’s a bit of an over-reaction to a fairly harmless post?

And how the **** is “probably brought up in a children’s home” supposed to be an insult? Kind of takes the wind out of my sails when I was suggesting “soy boy” might be a weird thing to be having a go at people for.

[morpheus2]

Have you never sang "you can shove your Blackpool tower up your arse" ?

If Blackpool fans were walking around in 700ft tall Blackpool Tower outfits and the Tower outfit was symbolic of a political ideology which orders the subjugation of all non tower ideology followers and the gender oppression of half of the ideology's subjects and the murder of apostates from the Tower's ideology and the murder of all homosexuals and the stoning to death of adulterers and the belief that the world is flat and everybody in the world should bow down facing the Tower or pay a special high rate of tax to the Tower ideology....well then it would be offensive, but as it stands it is not and we can keep singing it.

[lovebeingaclaret]

It amuses me that on this board it seems to be a thing that all these bigoted hateful people make bigoted hateful comments then get really offended on being called out on it and demand a full history of fact and evidence to prove they are bigoted.

If they had the same attention to detail about fact and evidence with their own opinions maybe they'd be less bigoted in the first place

Please do find me anything on here that would cause an Accusation being a bigoted hateful person.

Funny really. Only thing I was asking for was justification of someone else being called childish names.

That's how a lot of this comes over .. childish

[Dazzler]

You quoted a stat that is wrong, the actual statistics are already on this thread - but for some reason you have ignored that and inflated the numbers - can you explain why you did that?

3% inflation,wow!!


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[HatfieldClaret]

Disraeli converted to the Anglican Church when he was 12

That's where he went wrong.

[HatfieldClaret]

We haven't had a Roman Catholic, and it's not entirely clear for all sorts of constitutional reasons whether we can have one, because the monarch can't be advised by an RC.

That's why Blair waited to convert until after his resignation so that the matter wouldn't arise.

He was a Catholic waiting for confirmation then.

[nil_desperandum]

He was a Catholic waiting for confirmation then.

Technically no, since he wasn't baptised as a Catholic. He was a convert, but as you perhaps imp!y he had probably considered himself RC for some time and used to attend Mass regularly whilst PM.