Pope to the Scousers £15million

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:27 am

hampsteadclaret wrote:Can we just not boot the obvious non-Clarets off the forum please?

I pretty much believe in free speech but these tedious time-wasting tw@ts are just here on the wind-up, and trolling for the little they are worth.

Time wasting Tw@ts...

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:27 am

hampsteadclaret wrote:Can we just not boot the obvious non-Clarets off the forum please?

I pretty much believe in free speech but these tedious time-wasting tw@ts are just here on the wind-up, and trolling for the little they are worth.

I agree hamps, but do have a little sympathy. Just imagine how sad, pathetic and lonely their lives must be, that they have to seek pleasure on the forum of a successful team like Burnley.
If they weren't badgering us it would be the Samaritans.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:28 am

30 million for Pickford wasn't it? I suggest we start at that figure.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:32 am

Steve1956 wrote:30 million for Pickford wasn't it? I suggest we start at that figure.

We wouldn't get the same amount simply because Pickford has more caps for England.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:33 am

£30 million we are being robbed.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:33 am

Spijed wrote:We wouldn't get the same amount simply because Pickford has more caps for England.

When the World cup is over and Pickford has had a shocker...even?

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:34 am

ablueclaret wrote:£30 million we are being robbed.

I said start at 30 million

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:36 am

I can’t help but think they Lauren12 has now got Devils_Advocaat firmly in their back pocket. D_A thinks so too as he’s pseudo-sarcastically liking every post that Lauren12 posts where they absolutely own him.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:38 am

Always start at you’re highest figure, you’ll rarely be able to push the price up.
For us I actually think he’s worth £100 million.

Lauren12 · Post by **Lauren12** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:48 am

Devils_'Advocaat' Lord Beamish ? - I've heard of Dick Advocaat (some Dutch bloke apparently)? but perhaps you're on to something and this is a more appropriate usernamer for Devils_Advocate, under the circumstances? Made me chuckle anyway.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:51 am

Just a bit of whimsy on my behalf, Lauren12.

Bigvince · Post by **Bigvince** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:51 am

Spijed wrote:We wouldn't get the same amount simply because Pickford has more caps for England.

When Everton bought him he didn’t have any England caps

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:52 am

Spijed wrote:We wouldn't get the same amount simply because Pickford has more caps for England.

Are you saying we would get more than £30m ?
As I not sure Pickford had played for England when he was sold for £30m (I maybe wrong)

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:54 am

Spijed wrote:We wouldn't get the same amount simply because Pickford has more caps for England.

How many caps did Pickford have when signing for Everton for £30m? Without looking it up my guess is zero.

The person who said we'd be lucky to get £15m for Pope is a complete bellend.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:57 am

Pickford played lot's of gamed for England U16 - U21 between 2009-2017.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:02 am

Lord Beamish wrote:I can’t help but think they Lauren12 has now got Devils_Advocaat firmly in their back pocket. D_A thinks so too as he’s pseudo-sarcastically liking every post that Lauren12 posts where they absolutely own him.

Don't overthink it, it's only a football messageboard dear

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:05 am

ClaretAndJew wrote:Pickford played lot's of gamed for England U16 - U21 between 2009-2017.

So did players like Luke Chadwick and Francis Jeffers

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:30 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:Don't overthink it, it's only a football messageboard dear

Ah. We’ve progressed to pseudo-insouciance now.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:36 am

ClaretAndJew wrote:Pickford played lot's of gamed for England U16 - U21 between 2009-2017.

Based on the statistics of England youth team players making it in the senior leagues in the last 30 years that should have brought his value down !

In all seriousness that is a completely meaningless stat. Pickford had one good season for an awful Sunderland team and was sold for £30m...which looking at him now feels about right in this market
Pope has had a better season than Pickford did at Sunderland and the market has moved on at least 15% (probably more) so a starting price of £35m looks the minimum

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:00 am

25 million.

And then possibly I'd start talking.

About Heaton.

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:05 am

In my opinion, Pope will, unfortunately, be off to pastures new after the World Cup. I believe the club will feel Heaton, if first choice, will not leave the club. Pope, on the other hand, with no real connection to the club, would be a `risk` for the club to keep as if his progress continues (doesn`t all progress???) he will sought out by some top clubs and gone after another season. I hope Pope doesn`t leave though as I think he is a brilliant keeper (as is Heaton).

I can see Pope going to Arsenal (less sure now though because of Emri) as a replacement for Cech or to a team like West Ham or Newcastle (not better clubs but...well, don`t know what). IF De Gea left United I could see Pope going there too.

Regardless, he is a 25 million pound keeper.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:11 am

HiroshimaClaret wrote:IF De Gea left United I could see Pope going there too.

No chance because Man U. would want a keeper similar in standard to De Gea who is arguably the best in the world.

Pope isn't close to that level!

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:12 am

England international, probably around another 10 years left in him, just had a blinding season, 2-3 years remaining on contract... for £15 million?

I can only assume, if they did bid that, it will include some huge extras thrown in, depending on appearances for club and country.

Lauren12 · Post by **Lauren12** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:12 am

Whatever the outcome of this (and none of us know if there's anything in it) there is no way Pope's going anywhere on the cheap.

What is for certain though is our club have purchased several players for next to nowt recently, developed them into International standard footballers and could sell them, if necessary (which at this moment in time, it isn't) for upward of £100,000,000 (I'm thinking Tarks, Mee, Pope, JGB, etc). What a fantastic position we are in.

Can we please just enjoy these times without the usual ramblings and moaning we sometimes we get on here.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:15 am

[quote="ElectroClaret"]Utter rubbish.

That might pay for his gloves.[/quote

Of course it’s rubbish people only have to look at the source to tell you that

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:44 am

To be honest I am not surprised, yes the valuation is laughable, but we are going to get a a lot of this sort of stuff during the summer. Comes with the price for collective and individual success at our club. I would also be very surprised to see us with 2 current England goalkeepers at our club next season and would expect Pope to be the one that moves on.

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:59 am

Spijed wrote:No chance because Man U. would want a keeper similar in standard to De Gea who is arguably the best in the world.

Pope isn't close to that level!

I understand your point and it is incredibly valid but I see Mourinho focused more elsewhere in the team to improve dynamism, especially in the midfield. FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS!!!

Spike · Post by **Spike** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:03 pm

TSB’s no way that low! Took them a decade to pay for zings!

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:08 pm

ablueclaret wrote:£30 million we are being robbed.

That’s what scousers do best!

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:48 pm

surely Hart would be their preferred choice!

Carport · Post by **Carport** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:44 pm

It’s surely a starting offer only. Liverpool will know they’re probably going to need to pay around £25m but it clearly wouldn’t be in their interests to offer that amount from the get go. It’s like bartering in a souk. You offer very low to start with. Pope hasn’t yet been tested in front of a defence playing behind a more expansive system than Burnley play. Yes he’s played to his maximum potential ( distribution aside) but he has been protected by Burnley’s system of play for most of the season. Personally I’d take £25m if it’s offered and re invest in a striker.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:55 pm

I cant see us selling him . Pope will be our number 1 next season and also the future . Another paper says were trying to tie him down with a new contract

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:59 pm

Best quote I've seen:
"Sooner Klopp can get this 15m deal done the quicker Burnley can get his pair of gloves in the post"

Conroy92 · Post by **Conroy92** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:17 pm

Considering Pickfords previous transfer VS pope outshining him this season, 40 million is not unreasonable.

Is lauren12 being sarcastic?

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:24 pm

£15m? LOL.

Japebe43 · Post by **Japebe43** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:25 pm

ecc wrote:£15m? LOL.

12 month ago he was a Charlton reject.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:27 pm

Japebe43 wrote:12 month ago he was a Charlton reject.

He's been at Burnley for two years.

Japebe43 · Post by **Japebe43** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:30 pm

Tall Paul wrote:He's been at Burnley for two years.

Where he was a Charlton reject.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:48 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:If you think putting two big guys up front and lumping it in their general direction is anything better than aimless in the context of football you have very low standards

And if you think that "aimless" means the same as "not better than aimless" then you have a very odd grasp of English.

I'm not actually sure if you genuinely think that Burnley had a poor season and weren't worth watching, or if you are simply carrying out your supposed "Devil's Advocate" persona by which you think you are obliged to disagree with everything, no matter how obvious. Well, to give you some material to work with, the sun rises in the East, tomorrow is Monday, and Burnley have had a good season.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:28 pm

Scousers wont know anything about this as they dont read the Sun since Hillsborough

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:23 pm

Lauren12 wrote:Can we all stop being silly, what do you lot think you are playing at defending a Burnley player, anybody would think this is a Burnley FC message board. I mean come on folks, Pope clearly can't kick a ball a long, long way therefore he's rubbish, you lot are all blinkered and Devils Advocate is spot on (thanks for the earlier mention btw, nice to see you're thinking about me).

Forgot all that guff about his meteoritic rise from obscurity to becoming one the top performing keepers who has made unbelievable saves/ commands the penalty/ catches difficult crosses/ helped us win (?) however many points, etc, etc and now finds himself on the verge of a World Cup. Just stop it and forget all that. Cos Devils Advocate quite rightly keeps highlighting the fact he cant kick the ball.

Actually Pope can kick the ball a very long way - when he catches hold of it right. But not always the case.

He certainly can catch the ball though

Japebe43 · Post by **Japebe43** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:28 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:Scousers wont know anything about this as they dont read the Sun since Hillsborough

Very good point.. Makes me question the whole story as I don't believe the sun has any good intentions toward Liverpool at all.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:36 pm

Pope is a class act.If Southgate wasnt so blinkered and look at the actual Premiership stats this season he would see Nick is the best English keeper on current form.Pickford played in the U21 but that doesn't guarantee any step up will be seamless.
Nick has just signed a new deal and it would need a massive bid £40m + to get us even interested in talking

dpinsussex · Post by **dpinsussex** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:39 pm

It's simple we don't need to sell. We don't want to sell.

Stick a £70m price tag on him and if anyone is stupid enough to pay that then so be it.

Japebe43 · Post by **Japebe43** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:39 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:Pope is a class act.If Southgate wasnt so blinkered and look at the actual Premiership stats this season he would see Nick is the best English keeper on current form.Pickford played in the U21 but that doesn't guarantee any step up will be seamless.
Nick has just signed a new deal and it would need a massive bid £40m + to get us even interested in talking

You think a manager should pick players based on stats? Good idea. Don't bother turning up for games Gareth, just look on sky sports stats page. That's the way to manage..

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:41 pm

dpinsussex wrote:It's simple we don't need to sell. We don't want to sell.

Stick a £70m price tag on him and if anyone is stupid enough to pay that then so be it.

Yes it’s great position to be in isn’t it.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:26 pm

If the Scousers have only offered fifteen million quid they have no hope of landing Nicky Pope.

Grimsdale · Post by **Grimsdale** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:58 pm

Apparently West Ham have also enquired about Pope. Wonder if that may involve a deal with Antonio coming this way.

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:00 pm

We’ve got 2 England keepers so we could let Tom go for £40m. That should keep everyone happy.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:29 am

If we had to forfeit one of the keepers i would pick Tom purely on age grounds,great luxury to have though,ideally we'll get a bidding war between some of the top 6,Arsenal and Liverpool look the likeliest pair most desperate for a solid shot-stopper.