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Uproar At PMQs

Post by ElectroClaret » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:32 pm

All the SNP MPs walk out after a row with John Bercow.

Hugely entertaining. :D

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Re: Uproar At PMQs

Post by bfcjg » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:35 pm

Did they take the high road ?
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Re: Uproar At PMQs

Post by Billy_Bumface » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:39 pm

Lock the bloody doors and don’t let them back in.
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Re: Uproar At PMQs

Post by ElectroClaret » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:39 pm

bfcjg wrote:Did they take the high road ?
Probably gone for an Irn-bru.

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Re: Uproar At PMQs

Post by jlup1980 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:40 pm

Northern Uproar :D

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Re: Uproar At PMQs

Post by tiger76 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:42 pm

The've gone home to think again :lol:
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Post by South West Claret. » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:48 pm

Oh what fun this brexit stuff is causing :D
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Re: Uproar At PMQs

Post by bfcjg » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:00 pm

Typical Scots they only got as far as the bar.

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Re: Uproar At PMQs

Post by KeighleyClaret » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:31 pm

You should at least try and understand the issues before resorting to stale stereotypes. The Tories have effectively imposed direct rule on Scotland, having offered 'the most powerful devolved parliament in the world' back in 2014. Westminster have now taken back n=most of the devolved powers without even a debate in Parliament.

The SNP have every right to be annoyed, and every other party in Scotland apart from the Tories is of the same view.

Pity the UK Labour party were so so spineless and abstained on the votes.
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Post by RingoMcCartney » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:43 pm

KeighleyClaret wrote:Westminster have now taken back n=most of the devolved powers without even a debate in Parliament.

The SNP have every right to be annoyed.

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Do the English have every right to be annoyed? There isn't an English parliament that Westminster can even take back power from!

England - the only country in Europe without it's own parliament.

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Post by Rowls » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:45 pm

Hahaha

SNP in "uproar"

Fury!

Oh wot larks.

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Post by UpTheBeehole » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:46 pm

They were right to walk out, their grievance stands up.
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Re: Uproar At PMQs

Post by IanMcL » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:07 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:Do the English have every right to be annoyed? There isn't an English parliament that Westminster can even take back power from!

England - the only country in Europe without it's own parliament.
England are not grown up enough to have their own parliament. Nothing moemre than village hall gatherings can be risked.
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Post by Wokingclaret » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:18 pm

Oh god, wee Jimmy Krankie will be heard soon
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Re: Uproar At PMQs

Post by FactualFrank » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:20 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:All the SNP MPs walk out after a row with John Bercow.

Hugely entertaining. :D
I saw it too, it was pretty funny. And when May and Corbyn were against eachother, I half expected May to suddenly go.. "Bants!"

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Re: Uproar At PMQs

Post by Right_winger » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:21 pm

Typical grievance mining from the SNP who’s general argument is loosing support rapid.

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Post by dsr » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:28 pm

KeighleyClaret wrote:You should at least try and understand the issues before resorting to stale stereotypes. The Tories have effectively imposed direct rule on Scotland, having offered 'the most powerful devolved parliament in the world' back in 2014. Westminster have now taken back n=most of the devolved powers without even a debate in Parliament.

The SNP have every right to be annoyed, and every other party in Scotland apart from the Tories is of the same view.

Pity the UK Labour party were so so spineless and abstained on the votes.
Did they want it all done in one fell swoop? According to the BBC report, no powers have been taken from the Scottish parliament. The powers have been taken from the Brussels parliament and transferred for the time being to Westminster. What happens to those powers after Brexit, is another question - but certainly the UK government has a far far better record of devolving powers to its constituent countries than the EU has. When the EU gets powers, it tends not to give them up.

Anyway, why was the SNP leader so determined to throw the public observers out of Parliament?

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Re: Uproar At PMQs

Post by Claret-On-A-T-Rex » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:29 pm

Once again, the UK becomes even more ridiculous and farcical in the eyes of the watching world.

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Re: Uproar At PMQs

Post by Claret-On-A-T-Rex » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:31 pm

Right_winger wrote:loosing
Please Right_whinger, tell us more about who is "loosing".

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Re: Uproar At PMQs

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:35 pm

Perfect time for the next Independence vote (fingers crossed)

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Re: Uproar At PMQs

Post by UpTheBeehole » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:38 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Perfect time for the next Independence vote (fingers crossed)
A post-brexit England, deprived of Scotland's oil money, will be back to eating turnips within a generation.
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Re: Uproar At PMQs

Post by Vino blanco » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:40 pm

I like turnips.
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Re: Uproar At PMQs

Post by Damo » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:40 pm

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SNP- "This was not a stunt". Unfortunately they left their script in the Commons...I wonder if they practice their outrage... https://t.co/3x1V7Mx1Q8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Uproar At PMQs

Post by quoonbeatz » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:46 pm

that's from yesterday.
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Re: Uproar At PMQs

Post by UpTheBeehole » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:51 pm

Epic fail Damo
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Re: Uproar At PMQs

Post by BigChaCha » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:54 pm

Once again, the UK becomes even more ridiculous and farcical in the eyes of the watching world.
I'm pretty sure the rest of the world have not watched any of it and if they did, would probably find it tame compared to politics in the rest of the world where recently for example the Spanish police were giving the Catalonian voters a good beating!

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Re: Uproar At PMQs

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:01 pm

Yet more evidence if you believe in Brexit you'll put up with absolutely anything.
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Post by tiger76 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:07 pm

BigChaCha wrote:I'm pretty sure the rest of the world have not watched any of it and if they did, would probably find it tame compared to politics in the rest of the world where recently for example the Spanish police were giving the Catalonian voters a good beating!
Turkey would have a good old parliamentary ding-dong. :lol:

http://www.theweek.co.uk/92256/controve ... parliament

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Re: Uproar At PMQs

Post by KeighleyClaret » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:23 pm

Don’t rely on the BBC reports to be unbiased in this matter. Fact is that for the next 7 years all powers repatriated from Europe in 8 crucial policy areas will reside in Westminster, having originally been devolved. This was done without agreement or debate. At the end of the 7 years a new internal market will have been long established so that the powers will not be repatriated.
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Re: Uproar At PMQs

Post by timshorts » Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:53 pm

Vino blanco wrote:I like turnips.
Well you can't have any of our turnips. It's always the same, come over hear and eat our turnips, well it won't happen after brexit.

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Re: Uproar At PMQs

Post by Bertiebeehead » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:22 pm

God I’m ******* bored of politics.

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Post by Right_winger » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:35 pm

KeighleyClaret wrote:Don’t rely on the BBC reports to be unbiased in this matter. Fact is that for the next 7 years all powers repatriated from Europe in 8 crucial policy areas will reside in Westminster, having originally been devolved. This was done without agreement or debate. At the end of the 7 years a new internal market will have been long established so that the powers will not be repatriated.
Holyrood have never had any of these powers which currently reside with the EU. They clearly don’t want them either.

All the SNP want to do is mine grievance with Westminster to keep their independence debate relevant.

Best option is to dissolve Holyrood anyway as it’s a complete waste of resources.

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:41 pm

KeighleyClaret wrote:You should at least try and understand the issues before resorting to stale stereotypes. The Tories have effectively imposed direct rule on Scotland, having offered 'the most powerful devolved parliament in the world' back in 2014. Westminster have now taken back n=most of the devolved powers without even a debate in Parliament.

The SNP have every right to be annoyed, and every other party in Scotland apart from the Tories is of the same view.

Pity the UK Labour party were so so spineless and abstained on the votes.
Yep. Indyref2 should be a breeze now.

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Post by Right_winger » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:52 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Yep. Indyref2 should be a breeze now.
********, support for both Indy and the SNP is dropping rapidly.

Then again it always would once people started seeing through the tripe served up from the SNP/Indy camp.

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Post by Clarets4me » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:00 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:A post-brexit England, deprived of Scotland's oil money, will be back to eating turnips within a generation.
" Up the Beehole " ..... reporting from 1993 or whereabouts...

UK Public expenditure in Scotland ( 2016/17 ) .... £ 71.2 bn

Oil Revenues attributable to Scotland ..... £ 208 m

Public spending per head in Scotland is 11% higher than the UK average...

http://www.gov.scot/Publications/2017/08/7201

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Re: Uproar At PMQs

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:03 pm

We are the United Kingdom and have been since 1707

But no, because we now blame foreigners for everything, little englanders now want to throw all that away.

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:28 pm

Right_winger wrote:********, support for both Indy and the SNP is dropping rapidly.

Then again it always would once people started seeing through the tripe served up from the SNP/Indy camp.
If you can't keep the promises you make then don't make the promises.

In exchange for a No vote the Tories promised we'd stay in the EU and that Scotland would get a bunch more devolved powers.

In exchange for us voting to Leave the EU the right and far right promised us we could get a really soft brexit. Then when they squeezed the narrowest of wins they went all out for a rock hard Brexit and said that anything else wasn't respecting the will of the people.


It's becoming a trend with your lot on ther right and far right. Promise, promise, promise, and then back track all the way when you get the vote you want. How many times more do you think you'll be able to do that before the rest of us just don't believe a single word you say in campaigns?
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Post by Wile E Coyote » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:53 pm

lots of pathetic and childish anti scot comments from the boards regular cretins, shameful in my opinion, but to be expected from the truly imbecilic .
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Post by Paul Waine » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:20 pm

The story, including video, in today's The Times on-line.

SNP in Commons walkout over Brexit bill

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/snp- ... 9984056aa3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

With luck interested posters may be able to "pass through" the Times paywall.

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Post by Paul Waine » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:24 pm

And a different story in the Scotland section - obviously reporting on the night before:

‘Dark day for devolution’ as Brexit vote ignores Scots

Efforts to solve a constitutional row between Westminster and Holyrood over Brexit powers failed last night, after an amendment to the EU withdrawal bill was passed without the Scottish parliament’s consent.

Mike Russell, the Brexit minister, called the move a dark day for Scotland, and nationalist MPs sought to raise points of order after being angered by a lack of debating time.

The dispute centres on what should happen to powers held by Brussels in 24 areas that would usually be devolved. The UK government wants ultimate control of the powers, arguing that it has to protect the internal market, for up to seven years after Brexit. The SNP says this undermines the devolution settlement, whereby everything not explicitly reserved is devolved, so the Brexit change represents a “power grab”.

Westminster usually requires Holyrood’s consent to legislate in devolved areas, but this is a convention, not a legal requirement. The Scottish parliament had rejected the UK government’s Brexit bill, with only Conservative MSPs voting in favour. Mr Russell said last night: “For almost 20 years, decisions made by the Scottish parliament on issues affecting devolution have been final. Today the UK government tore up the constitutional rule book and imposed its will in the face of an overwhelming vote in parliament.
“The fact that they railroaded this measure through with no time for speeches from anyone other than the UK government minister shows utter contempt for Scottish democracy. This is a dark day for devolution.”

The UK government insisted that the amendment to the bill respected the devolution settlement. It was opposed by 33 SNP MPs, four Plaid Cymru MPs, and one MP each from the Labour, Green and Liberal Democrat parties. Most Labour MPs abstained.
David Mundell, the Scottish secretary, said: “The EU Withdrawal Bill provides certainty for business and families in Scotland as we leave the EU. It fully respects both the spirit and letter of the devolution settlement.
“It guarantees the vast majority of powers . . . will go directly to Edinburgh, Cardiff and Belfast. In a small number of areas current arrangements will remain in place until we can create new UK-wide frameworks.”
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Post by International class » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:01 am

The number of MPs and Peers we have is truly staggering in comparison to the number who legislate in the US or India for their size of population by comparison.

All of this funded by the U.K. tax payer.

Just saying........

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Post by tiger76 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:17 am

International class wrote:The number of MPs and Peers we have is truly staggering in comparison to the number who legislate in the US or India for their size of population by comparison.

All of this funded by the U.K. tax payer.

Just saying........
Completely agree IC major reform is urgently needed,the HOC and the HOL could be downsized without impacting on our parliamentary democracy,in addition we have Holyrood,Cardiff Bay,Stormont, plus elected Mayors,County Councils and other local authority councillors,how many jobsworths do we need in this country and on top of that we send over 70 MEP'S to Brussels.

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Re: Uproar At PMQs

Post by tiger76 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:49 am

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... s-44481490 the Nats aren't backing down that's for sure.

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Post by AndrewJB » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:41 pm

Corbyn regularly wiping the floor with Theresa May in these now.

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Post by bfcjg » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:46 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:lots of pathetic and childish anti scot comments from the boards regular cretins, shameful in my opinion, but to be expected from the truly imbecilic .
uwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww sounds like somebody has got their sporran in a twist.

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Post by quoonbeatz » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:47 pm

AndrewJB wrote:Corbyn regularly wiping the floor with Theresa May in these now.
imagine if they mattered.

pmqs is the biggest waste of an hour in parliament every week.

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Post by Vino blanco » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:49 pm

Good to see your faith in Corbyn isn't wavering, Andrew.

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Re: Uproar At PMQs

Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:55 pm

***** sake Andrew, he needs to wipe the floor with her in stuff that actually matters.

Any chance of him and bunch of Tory policy enablers doing that anytime soon?

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Re: Uproar At PMQs

Post by Clarets4me » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:52 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:lots of pathetic and childish anti scot comments from the boards regular cretins, shameful in my opinion, but to be expected from the truly imbecilic .
Oh, the irony ..... Wile criticising " pathetic and childish " comments ! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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