https://www.burnleyexpress.net/news/bur ... -1-9208056A 58-year-old Burnley fan who hurled racist abuse at Premier League player Marvin Zeegelaar has been banned from all football matches for three years.
Jonathan Embury launched the foul-mouthed tirade during a game Turf Moor, after Zeegelaar, who plays for Watford, tackled Clarets player Steven Defour and was sent off.
Embury swore, repeatedly used the "n-word," and yelled: "Get back to the jungle." He then did monkey noises and shouted: "Send them all back. Get the British National Party in power," a court heard.
Prosecutor Mrs Alex Mann told Burnley magistrates that the man sitting next to the defendant was so distressed by what he described as the "horrible" racist comments towards the Watford player he reported the incident to the police. She said: "The witness says "He (the defendant) was shouting very loudly so that other people could hear them. I was extremely upset. I was too scared to confront him. I didn't want to cause a scene. Another member of the public said something to him. The man, who appeared to be on his own, was looking angry and stressed."
Mrs Mann said Embury was interviewed by police. She went on: "He expressed remorse for his actions and knew his actions were wrong, saying he would do anything to make things right." The prosecutor had told the hearing: "The defendant has pleaded guilty and this is his first conviction. It's a real shame, bearing in mind particularly the nature of the offence as well." Mr John Rusius, defending Embury, said: "To say he's very ashamed of what happened is very much an understatement."
Racist Burnley Fan banned for 3 years
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Wow what a mentalist.
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Re: Racist Burnley Fan banned for 3 years
I have become quite good at guessing who created the thread before i even opened the thread.
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Re: Racist Burnley Fan banned for 3 years
3 years ban isn't enough - life ban for that in my opinion. I dont want anyone like him at football tarnishing my club and my friends.
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Glad he was banned.
Sounds like he had mental health issues though so he should get a free pass.
Sounds like he had mental health issues though so he should get a free pass.
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Someone by that name used to travel on the supporters Club coaches back in the 1980s and, at a guess, would be around that age.
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starting_11 wrote:Glad he was banned.
Sounds like he had mental health issues though so he should get a free pass.
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Good riddance to the idiot.
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Stone him.
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Typically there is a fair amount of spin in that story...
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Absolutely agree.Rick_Muller wrote:3 years ban isn't enough - life ban for that in my opinion. I dont want anyone like him at football tarnishing my club and my friends.
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Very surprised it's not a life ban
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Brighton fans will have a field day with this.
Oh well, at least we're now down one knob head
Oh well, at least we're now down one knob head
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I don’t think the courts would give a banning order for lifeWalton wrote:Very surprised it's not a life ban
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Feel free to give another version if you wish.....?LittleBritton wrote:Typically there is a fair amount of spin in that story...
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BFC always used to give automatic life bans for anyone convicted of a football offence (rescindable later if you keep your nose clean in the meantime, depending on the offence). Do they still?
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First offence
It would be pretty harsh to get a life ban
Though of course it might well be the first time he's been caught
It would be pretty harsh to get a life ban
Though of course it might well be the first time he's been caught
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There should be.LittleBritton wrote:Typically there is a fair amount of spin in that story...
He used to be a spin bowler for England
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I think that was the joke.tybfc wrote:There should be.
He used to be a spin bowler for England
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If he's like that at 58 he's hardly likely to change is he? feck him.Lancasterclaret wrote:First offence
It would be pretty harsh to get a life ban
Though of course it might well be the first time he's been caught
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Crowd abuse is not longer tolerated but we used to be as bad as anyone when it comes to that.
The longside spout would see us thrown out of football in today's day and age and back then everyone put up with it and even joined in
I am not going to highlight the crass chants but we all know from that era what all the mud slinging was about
We should not hear it what so ever but I sometimes feel like some think they are whiter than white but if you come out with that sort of crass expect to be dealt with
The longside spout would see us thrown out of football in today's day and age and back then everyone put up with it and even joined in
I am not going to highlight the crass chants but we all know from that era what all the mud slinging was about
We should not hear it what so ever but I sometimes feel like some think they are whiter than white but if you come out with that sort of crass expect to be dealt with
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Thought that was John Emburey? - otherwise I might have tried a variant on the same joke myself.tybfc wrote:There should be.
He used to be a spin bowler for England
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A footballer can racially abuse another and get away with a ten match ban but some want this guy banned for life .Of course when the 10 match ban kicks in the rest of the players in his team warm up in t shirts with slogans supporting him.Strange world.
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Good on whoever reported him. We need to root out idiots like that
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Disgusting behaviour....should be a life ban.
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No transfer value for supporters. Like it or lump it, he's been rightly banned and this is how **** worksLord Rothbury wrote:A footballer can racially abuse another and get away with a ten match ban but some want this guy banned for life .Of course when the 10 match ban kicks in the rest of the players in his team warm up in t shirts with slogans supporting him.Strange world.
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Woman who reported it should be commended you tend to find his sort can be very aggressive and threatening towards anyone who questions their perverse logic.
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It was a man sat next to him, the prosecutor was female.bfcjg wrote:Woman who reported it should be commended you tend to find his sort can be very aggressive and threatening towards anyone who questions their perverse logic.
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Hard to imagine that this was a first offence (first time prosectuted, maybe) or that somebody can hold those views and act in that way and then be genuinely remorseful for it.
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He should have his citizenship removed and made to live the rest of his life in an airport like Tom hanks
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I hope the Club extend his ban for life, or until he can tie his own laces. Whichever comes first.
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I heard racist comments on more than one occasion last year from people in or around where I sit. I didn't report them because I wasn't sure how much proof I'd need to have, and in all honesty didn't want the hassle. Very much a cop out I know, so well done to whoever did report this moron. I can't believe this sort of thing still goes on.
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Disgraceful behaviour.
I love going on to the Turf, what I despise though is some of the mindless comments and chants that some folk come out with.
It's as though some people are more focused on abusing the opposition than getting behind our own team, a real **** mentality to have.
I love going on to the Turf, what I despise though is some of the mindless comments and chants that some folk come out with.
It's as though some people are more focused on abusing the opposition than getting behind our own team, a real **** mentality to have.
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Sometimes the guff that gets spouted is so mindless you have to laugh. My favourite was a guy that used to sit near me and routinely screamed soundbites he'd clearly heard somewhere else. Every time the ball was coming down the opponents left he'd yell 'all left, HE'S ALL LEFT', despite it fairly often being an obvious right footer playing as an inverted winger.CoolClaret wrote:I love going on to the Turf, what I despise though is some of the mindless comments and chants that some folk come out with.
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Jonathan Embury launched the foul-mouthed tirade during a game Turf Moor, after Zeegelaar, who plays for Watford, tackled Clarets player Steven Defour and was sent off.
Embury swore, repeatedly used the "n-word," and yelled: "Get back to the jungle." He then did monkey noises and shouted: "Send them all back. Get the British National Party in power," a court heard.
How can someone this stupid make it to the age of 58 without a single previous conviction? I can;t imagine anyone saying those things loudly and in a crowd, I strongly suspect he is having some kind of mental breakdown or has CJD or something. No rational person would say those things, even drunk.
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It's certainly old school stuff isn't it? It's like he's popped up from 1978 or something with no concept of the world having changed.ClaretMoffitt wrote:How can someone this stupid make it to the age of 58 without a single previous conviction? I can;t imagine anyone saying those things loudly and in a crowd, I strongly suspect he is having some kind of mental breakdown or has CJD or something. No rational person would say those things, even drunk.
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BFC did and it was downright ridiculous. I am aware of one supporter who turned up at the turnstiles worse the wear for drink and was refused admittance by the police. He was taken to the police station where he accepted a caution. Burnley Football Club banned him for life. They did agree to review the bans after a period of time but rarely were they rescinded.dsr wrote:BFC always used to give automatic life bans for anyone convicted of a football offence (rescindable later if you keep your nose clean in the meantime, depending on the offence). Do they still?
Things changed when the ground safety office retired and his replacement doesn't approach things in the same way.
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weird that anyone would react to an opposition player being sent off with anything other than laughter and perhaps a wave.
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I wasn't around for that decade so the idea of that type of stuff being shouted loudly and proudly is so alien to me it's difficult to even believe it happening.NottsClaret wrote:It's certainly old school stuff isn't it? It's like he's popped up from 1978 or something with no concept of the world having changed.
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Football terraces where not a nice place to be in the 70s and 80s thankfully people have moved on except people like the dickhead this thread is about,always a few loose cannons about,haven't heard any racial abuse at the Turf for many years.ClaretMoffitt wrote:I wasn't around for that decade so the idea of that type of stuff being shouted loudly and proudly is so alien to me it's difficult to even believe it happening.
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Really?Steve1956 wrote:Football terraces where not a nice place to be in the 70s and 80s thankfully people have moved on except people like the dickhead this thread is about,always a few loose cannons about,haven't heard any racial abuse at the Turf for many years.
You don't hear a lot nowadays, but I think most on here will unfortunately have been aware of comments and chanting by the odd individual from time to time, though I must admit that I don't think I've heard anyone recently in the category of the racist moron in this case.
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Honestly no,and the last three seasons I've spent my time in the cricket field stand with our more vocal fans.nil_desperandum wrote:Really?
You don't hear a lot nowadays, but I think most on here will unfortunately have been aware of comments and chanting by the odd individual from time to time, though I must admit that I don't think I've heard anyone recently in the category of the racist moron in this case.
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They're out there....
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I remember once hearing someone racially abusing Junior Stanislas before he took a corner for us. I couldn't see the bloke in question but Stanislas responded with a great cross that we scored from. Some absolute melons in our fanbase at times.
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We had the situation at Bradford City a couple of years ago when Andre Gray got involved after Burnley fans racially abused one of the Bradford City players. One of them received a warning after the player reported him and continued so was removed from the ground.
Just found Gray's quote after the game. "Well done to the two racist Burnley fans, still live in the stone ages I see. It’s all right, you’ve only got two black players playing for you anyway.”
Just found Gray's quote after the game. "Well done to the two racist Burnley fans, still live in the stone ages I see. It’s all right, you’ve only got two black players playing for you anyway.”
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Well I'm very pleased to hear that, but I'm afraid it still happens.Steve1956 wrote:Honestly no,and the last three seasons I've spent my time in the cricket field stand with our more vocal fans.
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I can only once remember hearing racist abuse in my life on the turf and that was in the late 90s. I was about 10 years old, something along the lines of "black rat" I can't exactly remember it.Steve1956 wrote:Football terraces where not a nice place to be in the 70s and 80s thankfully people have moved on except people like the dickhead this thread is about,always a few loose cannons about,haven't heard any racial abuse at the Turf for many years.
If I'd have heard what was said in the op in this day and age, I'd have honestly thought I was hearing things. Never seen anything like it. Should be banned for life
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Why? He did not appear to boo!Falcon wrote:Brighton fans will have a field day with this.