World cup thread

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:54 pm

What odds were Mexico to beat em?

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:54 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:4-0
4-0
4-2
8-0

Germany's last 4 world cup openers.

Like i say, sluggish start.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:56 pm

If nothing else they have shown the world how to beat this German side.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:56 pm

tim_noone wrote:What odds were Mexico to beat em?

8 to 1. I backed em to win group at 5s.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:57 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Agreed. The best teams so far have been quick and direct. We’ll probably see that from Brazil tonight. Looks like the days of ponderous keep-ball in international football are at an end.

They miss Podolski, Klose, Lahm and Gotze. Oh and Sane.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:58 pm

I fully expect Germany to still go through, but Mexico can definitely get enough points from the remaining 2 games to also qualify.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:58 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:Like i say, sluggish start.

Not historically though, which was your claim.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:03 pm

In the past I’ve associated Mexico with a slow laborious side with little attaching ideas but not now obviously, good team football now and good to watch.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:18 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I fully expect Germany to still go through, but Mexico can definitely get enough points from the remaining 2 games to also qualify.

Sweden can draw with that side and it could all come down to goal difference.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:47 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Not historically though, which was your claim.

If you saw their performances they grew into the tournament after not looking that great in the opening games.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:50 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:If you saw their performances they grew into the tournament after not looking that great in the opening games.

ok, but i disagree. They scored freely in their previous four openers. And only conceded twice. I'd love Burnley to be that sluggish.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:54 pm

Fair enough. The results you can't argue with. They get the job done and its worked.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:02 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:Fair enough. The results you can't argue with. They get the job done and its worked.

He's bummed you gandhi, say sorry, wipe your mouth and move on, otherwise he will hound you for the rest of the World Cup.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:03 pm

This is being billed as a shock,but Mexico are ranked 15th and have made it through the group stage at the last 6 World Cups.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:04 pm

Should be a good game this. Brazil are excellent especially going forward. But miranda isnt the best centre half ever. Even by brazil ch standards.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:05 pm

Neymar looks like a lesbian

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:07 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Neymar looks like a lesbian

Are you trying to get this/your thread pulled?

You just cannot say things like that and expect to get away with it.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:10 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Neymar looks like a lesbian

This post was also the number of the beast.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:14 pm

Diesel wrote:This post was also the number of the beast.

12?

MDWat · Post by **MDWat** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:19 pm

******* hell, what a goal

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:19 pm

Oh yes.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:20 pm

That's average from Coutinho. He can't score form any other part of the pitch.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:22 pm

This world cup has been great so far.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:24 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:This world cup has been great so far.

Always was going to be couldnt believe the amount of moaning about it being in russia. On and off the field been amazing so far. Probably because england havent featured... on or off the field.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:27 pm

Certainly can't say the superstars haven't turned it on so far,Ronaldo,Costa,and now Coutinho.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:28 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Always was going to be couldnt believe the amount of moaning about it being in russia. On and off the field been amazing so far. Probably because england havent featured... on or off the field.

Except the taxi running through Mexican supporters. And the gay dude who now has brain damage after being attacked.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:33 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:And the gay dude who now has brain damage after being attacked.

Any proof of this?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:34 pm

KRBFC wrote:Any proof of this?

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/06/14/f ... al-attack/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:35 pm

There's also this

https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/14/england- ... a-7629681/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:35 pm

Neymar going down like a dying swan..and just what sort of haircut is that then

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:38 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/06/14/f ... al-attack/

I ask for proof and you send me some shoddy write up from ''Pink News''

I read a report on this that said it was ''according to unverified reports''.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:41 pm

The information is quite limited, it's in The Sun too, but only have his first initial and last name.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:42 pm

It's also in the Daily Mail, Fox News, French C News.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:42 pm

KRBFC wrote:I ask for proof and you send me some shoddy write up from ''Pink News'' I read a report on this that said it was ''according to unverified reports''.

What's wrong with Pink News?

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:43 pm

Brazil excellent on the break. But id actually not be scared of facing them. Defensively vulnerable. Especially down the left where I would target them. Either stick a big, quick and physical player out on the right. (Wellbeck who is actually very good for England offers that.) Or get someone like rashford or sterling. A left side of neymar, coutinho, paulinho, marcelo and miranda offers very little defensively.
Of course theyre amazing going forwards.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:44 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Except the taxi running through Mexican supporters. And the gay dude who now has brain damage after being attacked.

Yeah because thats unique to russia. Intentional or accidental.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:44 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:It's also in the Daily Mail, Fox News, French C News.

Not that it means much. They all copy the first paper to report on it, the 1st to report probably made it up and claimed it was ''from unverified reports''.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:46 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Yeah because thats unique to russia. Intentional or accidental.

Gay people being beaten up for being gay isn't unique to Russia either. Does that mean we should ignore those crimes and declare it a great world cup "off the pitch" regardless of how many are attacked?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:47 pm

KRBFC wrote:Not that it means much. They all copy the first paper to report on it, the 1st to report probably made it up and claimed it was ''from unverified reports''.

"probably made it up" You got any proof of that?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:48 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Yeah because thats unique to russia. Intentional or accidental.

Yes, all traffic accidents and crime in Russia while the World Cup is on is linked directly to football fans. So if 2 Russian old women have a fight in the local library it's automatically deemed football related and the headline will be ''football hooligans clash''.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:48 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Gay people being beaten up for being gay isn't unique to Russia either. Does that mean we should ignore those crimes and declare it a great world cup "off the pitch" regardless of how many are attacked?

Absolutely.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:49 pm

Ffs is it really necessary to cause argument on a world cup thread? It gets tedious.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:49 pm

KRBFC wrote:Yes, all traffic accidents and crime in Russia while the World Cup is on is linked directly to football fans. So if 2 Russian old women have a fight in the local library it's automatically deemed football related and the headline will be ''football hooligans clash''.

Hit and run and a young lad seriously injured in burnley last night. We should be banned from hosting premier league games next season.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:51 pm

Anyway back on topic before imploding turd turns another thred into another political / gender / whatever* borefest.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:51 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:Ffs is it really necessary to cause argument on a world cup thread? It gets tedious.

This.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:52 pm

Anyway. Brazil great on the ball and going forwards. But very vulnerable at the back and down the left.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:53 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:Ffs is it really necessary to cause argument on a world cup thread? It gets tedious.

I know it seems so disappointing and unnecessary doesn’t it.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:53 pm

Switzerland will be happy with that

They can certainly cause Brazil some problems

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:55 pm

Remember when that Liverpool fan got stabbed outside Anfield? Where were you lot complaining that stabbings aren't unique to Liverpool when people were outraged at that violence? I don't recall you having a good laugh about how all crime in Liverpool on a matchday is because of football.

It's different with some victims though, i suppose.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:56 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Gay people being beaten up for being gay isn't unique to Russia either. Does that mean we should ignore those crimes and declare it a great world cup "off the pitch" regardless of how many are attacked?

This doesn't bode well either https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44513376