World cup thread

edison · Post by **edison** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:17 am

It's good you have options.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:18 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:I don't disagree with that, but would point out " Lingard should have had 4", yes but he didn't. I never blamed Southgate for anything, in fact I pointed out that he can't predict how certain players are going to perform. It's a team game, and Young and Sterling, and Lingards finishing were woeful. England aren't good enough to carry passengers , but that was yesterday's performance. There were lots of positives, but unless you look at the weaknesses you're not going to improve.

Lingards decision making wasn’t good enough at times. He was unlucky when hitting the post. If it was “on target” I suspect the keeper may have stopped it. The one thing what annoyed me was when he gave Rashford a call in the 2nd half to leave it. Rashford did not knowing he was in a far better position than Lingard actually was. That was very poor imo.

edison · Post by **edison** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:22 am

that was poor - he seemed to call, then wasn;t ready for it

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:27 am

Dyched wrote:Vardys finishing can’t be underestimated. Apart from Kane he’s by far the best finisher out of the rest. We want to play fast attacking football, on the counter. Vardy is a perfect fit imo. He doesn’t get stage fright either.

Exactly, and I agree - Vardy is brilliant on the counter. But we'll be playing Panama. Do you think they'll start the game attacking? They'll sit back with every man behind the ball. Vardy won't have much room to run into and there won't be much, if any, counter-attacking.

Unless, of course, we go 1-0 up and then they have to attack. Which is why he's more suited for the bench on Sunday. Bring him on in the second half by all means when we're hopefully leading and Panama have to come at us to get something from the game.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:36 am

FactualFrank wrote:Exactly, and I agree - Vardy is brilliant on the counter. But we'll be playing Panama. Do you think they'll start the game attacking? They'll sit back with every man behind the ball. Vardy won't have much room to run into and there won't be much, if any, counter-attacking.

Unless, of course, we go 1-0 up and then they have to attack. Which is why he's more suited for the bench on Sunday. Bring him on in the second half by all means when we're hopefully leading and Panama have to come at us to get something from the game.

Sorry didn’t realise you said the Panama game. The total none talk about Vardy by the “pundits” as been a little weird to me.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:54 am

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Post 17...A win for our boys never in doubt

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:55 pm

James Rodriguez not 100% and is on the bench. So happy he's in my fantasy team.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:56 pm

IndigoLake wrote:Forgot about that

But apart from that he was brilliant

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:05 pm

ANOTHER penalty.

Oh and my other Colombian player has been sent off.

Cheers Colombia, lol.

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:36 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:I don't disagree with that, but would point out " Lingard should have had 4", yes but he didn't. I never blamed Southgate for anything, in fact I pointed out that he can't predict how certain players are going to perform. It's a team game, and Young and Sterling, and Lingards finishing were woeful. England aren't good enough to carry passengers , but that was yesterday's performance. There were lots of positives, but unless you look at the weaknesses you're not going to improve.

I agree that you need to review the weaknesses and that's why I wouldn't start the same team on Sunday. I don't think playing 10 right footed players works for a start and Young doesn't offer natural width; I'd start Rose on Sunday. Then there's Alli and Sterling... neither of them covered themselves in glory last night. Loftus-Cheek and Rashford changed the game when they came on so Southgate has a question to answer about them; do they both deserve to start. In my opinion they should because they both drive from midfield with much greater threat and purpose.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:12 pm

Japan game.

VAR seems to be working just fine again. Now England aren't playing.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:16 pm

James Rodriguez on for the final half hour.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:18 pm

I wish they’d stop changing the laws.
I thought there was no sending off for DGSO, in the box, and the penalty became the GSO.
Wrong.

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:21 pm

piston broke wrote:I wish they’d stop changing the laws.
I thought there was no sending off for DGSO, in the box, and the penalty became the GSO.
Wrong.

There's no sending off when an honest attempt to play the ball results in a foul. Deliberate handball can never be considered honest; ergo red card.

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:32 pm

2-1 Nippon

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:42 pm

If we get through we'll be playing 1st or 2nd from this group. Columbia, Japan, Poland or Senegal.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:45 pm

FactualFrank wrote:If we get through we'll be playing 1st or 2nd from this group. Columbia, Japan, Poland or Senegal.

I hope it's Columbia, that's only a small district in America. Didn't realise they were at the World Cup though.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:56 pm

KRBFC wrote:Why would they do that when they can let Asian whipping boys in? #FreePass

You dont know how the Asian whipping boys got on against Colombia today do ya?

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:58 pm

IndigoLake wrote:James Rodriguez not 100% and is on the bench. So happy he's in my fantasy team.

Now that J. Rodriguez would be worth signing!

Not good enough for Real Madrid but I'm sure he'd do OK for us.

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:05 pm

Proof that I have the ability to influence the result of any football game!

I put a bet on Columbia to win at 17/20. Free money, right? Couldn't lose... right?!!

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:09 pm

I'm in an online prediction competition,haven't got a result right yet

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:13 pm

tiger76 wrote:I'm in an online prediction competition,haven't got a result right yet

I was on for a full house in the super 6 prediction had 3 out of 3 before that game . Had it down for a 1-1 draw even had the minute of the first goal correct . Lets hope the rest dont come in now

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:15 pm

starting_11 wrote:Proof that I have the ability to influence the result of any football game!

I put a bet on Columbia to win at 17/20. Free money, right? Couldn't lose... right?!!

Couldn't win more like. Columbia don't have a team at the World Cup.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:18 pm

Yeah while you don't expect a red card in the opening minutes,obviously a major game changer.Good shout at the first goal,though it was fruitless in the end.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:35 pm

I thought the Colombian free kick was just as impressive as the one taken by Ronaldo. Very clever to go under the wall!

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:08 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:You dont know how the Asian whipping boys got on against Colombia today do ya?

Japan have always been the best Asian team though and they were against 10 men from the start. I'm not saying lets kick all the Asian teams out, I think they should change the format and from the 2 groups of 12 in Asia, give the 2 group winners auto qualification and 2nd and 3rd from both groups added into the playoff round.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:12 pm

Interesting view on why VAR was right not to award England any penalties.

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/england/ ... spot-kicks" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:09 pm

With Senegal leading at HT. Two upsets in this group could throw Englands possible KO opponent wide open. Everybody seemed to be tipping Poland or Colombia.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:15 pm

KRBFC wrote:Japan have always been the best Asian team though and they were against 10 men from the start. I'm not saying lets kick all the Asian teams out, I think they should change the format and from the 2 groups of 12 in Asia, give the 2 group winners auto qualification and 2nd and 3rd from both groups added into the playoff round.

Just been checking the rankings. The lowest in the tournament are the hosts at 70 and only two others, Japan and Saudi Arabia, are outside the top 60 and Japan have won their first up.
I get your argument but still feel it makes for a better world cup by spreading it wide. It won’t alter the winners.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:22 pm

Senegal gifted a second!

Claret · Post by **Claret** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:39 pm

Spijed wrote:Senegal gifted a second!

The Polish ‘keeper is a clown

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:41 pm

Poland offering nothing, they are woeful.

Senegal's second goal was a joke.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:46 pm

Call my cynical, but why is it only players from the winning side get cramp towards the end of the game?

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:46 pm

Claret wrote:The Polish ‘keeper is a clown

It's Wojciech Tomasz Szczęsny who was good enough for Arsenal for 8 years
and now plays for Juventus. Even so, he has looked clownish !!!

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:48 pm

Well wouldn't you know it, Poland have gone and scored.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:48 pm

Spijed wrote:Call my cynical, but why is it only players from the winning side get cramp towards the end of the game?

You missed the Panama player going down with cramp yesterday then?

Claret · Post by **Claret** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:50 pm

The clown comment harps back to 1973 or 74 when Clough famously dubbed the Polish ‘keeper as a clown before he went on to play brilliantly, keeping England at bay and knocking us out of the World Cup at the qualifier stage

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:19 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Couldn't win more like. Columbia don't have a team at the World Cup.

Apologies.

Colombia.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:04 pm

Draw ht ft Russia

Claret · Post by **Claret** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:10 pm

Why don’t they book players who dive in areas of the pitch other than the penalty area?

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:12 pm

Russia don't look a bad side. Certainly better than I expected (acknowledge they're not exactly playing Brazil).

Claret · Post by **Claret** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:18 pm

There goes another diving cheating Russian (grrrr)

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:18 pm

Decent game this so far.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:45 pm

No goals but an entertaining game so far. Fairly free-flowing which is nice to see.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:04 pm

Claret wrote:The clown comment harps back to 1973 or 74 when Clough famously dubbed the Polish ‘keeper as a clown before he went on to play brilliantly, keeping England at bay and knocking us out of the World Cup at the qualifier stage

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/24445822 report here,i didn't know the keeper had broken his wrist early in the game,but he played on till the end,reminiscent of Bert Trautmann in the 1956 FA Cup Final when he broke his neck,a different breed of men in those days.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:04 pm

Own goal by Egypt. Russia lead!

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:07 pm

Polish football fans on a rampage in Moscow... Police say over 300 cars have been washed,waxed and hoovered".

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:09 pm

IndigoLake wrote:Russia don't look a bad side. Certainly better than I expected (acknowledge they're not exactly playing Brazil).

Or Tunisia

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:18 pm

2-0

3-0

Russia are decent.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:24 pm

This Egypt side need to go back to their real jobs of camel rides for tourists... Terrible and all I keep hearing is salahs name from the pundits.