Awful commentary

LongSider75 · Post by **LongSider75** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:50 pm

English commentators are the most biased/one sided in the world. Well blinkered !!

deanothedino · Post by **deanothedino** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:10 pm

You've not heard that clip of the commentary on Ronaldo's free kick against Spain then.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:28 pm

LongSider75 wrote:English commentators are the most biased/one sided in the world. Well blinkered !!

How many foreign commentaries on their own team have you heard?

Burnley Ace · Post by **Burnley Ace** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:45 pm

What have Columbia done (other than play up to every dirty South American stereotype?)

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:21 pm

Glenn Hoddle is the biggest bore in football.

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:25 pm

Hoddles terrible

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:37 pm

My head drops as soon as I see a game is to be screened only on ITV. Commentators and pundits who seem to be only able to drone on with a whole load of cliches and drivel.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:41 pm

England did as much, or nearly as much, diving and pretending to be hurt - the elbow on Henderson's chin that caused him to roll about holding his eye being one example. The difference was that Columbia were extremely stupid play-actors with no self-control, and with no apparent idea that rugby tackling is illegal even in the penalty area.

I agree that the commentary was abysmal.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:43 pm

KRBFC wrote:Glenn Hoddle is the biggest bore in football.

Hoddle can be very astute, tactically, but his voice is sleep inducing.

SammyBoy · Post by **SammyBoy** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:48 pm

Don't mind Hoddle but the other guy (forget his name) just drones inanely, I guess he's told to fill the air time somehow but I don't need him chewing my ear off when England are going life and death with a bunch of cheats. The same goes for the frequent cut away shots of drooling opposition fans gurning at the camera, doesn't normally register but I just wanted to watch the action on the pitch tonight.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:05 pm

We should have Brian Blessed doing commentary.

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:09 pm

[quote="dsr"]England did as much, or nearly as much, diving and pretending to be hurt - the elbow on Henderson's chin that caused him to roll about holding his eye being one example. The difference was that Columbia were extremely stupid play-actors with no self-control, and with no apparent idea that rugby tackling is illegal even in the penalty area.

I think that just about every other person who has ever watched a game of football before saw that it was head to jaw (not elbow) and therefore a straight red?

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:16 pm

Bring back women commentators.quality

Rodneyyouplonker · Post by **Rodneyyouplonker** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:34 pm

bfcmik wrote:My head drops as soon as I see a game is to be screened only on ITV. Commentators and pundits who seem to be only able to drone on with a whole load of cliches and drivel.

Same here, Bbc coverage way better imo.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:38 pm

At least Hoddle knows what he's talking about, unlike so e of the commentators.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:39 pm

mybloodisclaret wrote:I think that just about every other person who has ever watched a game of football before saw that it was head to jaw (not elbow) and therefore a straight red?

Not enough for a red card IMO. Though when a player is rolling round pretending to be hurt when he doesn't seem to know where it hit him, that suggests he wasn't hit hard. Maguire's antics were a bit off too.

Besides, if that constitutes violent conduct, then perhaps Henderson was lucky to get just a booking for his tiny head-butt?

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:41 pm

Commentators at this World Cup are intent upon giving out stats such as the one tonight "This is this first time that an England player has scored 3 penalties at a World Cup." In truth, it is the first time that England have ever been awarded 3 spot kicks at a World Cup. It has not yet dawned on the commentators that the introduction of VAR makes all previous statistics on penalties irrelevant. If you are not a penalty taker highly unlikely you will win the Golden Boot award.

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:09 am

Tyldsley is an horrendous commentator, gives his opinion to the watching millions who can’t answer back. Commentate on what you see then shut the **** up Clive.

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:49 am

Can’t stand Tyldsley but I’ve always liked Hoddle.

Japebe43 · Post by **Japebe43** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:07 am

LoveCurryPies wrote:We should have Brian Blessed doing commentary.

They wouldn't dare put him on live TV, swears more than billy Connelly

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:20 am

LoveCurryPies wrote:We should have Brian Blessed doing commentary.

Now he is bloody funny. What a legend.

Lordlucan · Post by **Lordlucan** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:07 am

RocketLawnChair wrote:Tyldsley is an horrendous commentator, gives his opinion to the watching millions who can’t answer back. Commentate on what you see then shut the **** up Clive.

Spent most of the evening shouting obscenities at the tv set asking Clive to do as you say. When he started talking about playing Sweden next when we were approaching the 90th minute I was looking up numbers for contract killers.

If we want an arrogant opinionated non expert, why don't we go the whole way and replace him with Piers Morgan for next time?

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:10 am

Hoddle is a bit like Danny Murphy in being a bit monotone but they both know what they are talking about unlike some others.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:10 am

England always seem to play better in tournaments on the BBC (although I’ve no stats to back that up) so I’m relieved the Sweden match is on the Beeb!

Hendrickxz · Post by **Hendrickxz** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:10 am

Love Curry Pies: "We should have Brian Blessed doing commentary."

Gordon's ALIVE!!!??

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:13 am

Blackrod wrote:Hoddle is a bit like Danny Murphy in being a bit monotone but they both know what they are talking about unlike some others.

Well almost. Danny Murphy was convinced we should have had a penalty for the headbutt on Henderson. It took a minute or so and presumably someone telling the commentator the rules for them to explain you can’t award a penalty when the ball is dead.

Lordlucan · Post by **Lordlucan** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:16 am

martin_p wrote:England always seem to play better in tournaments on the BBC (although I’ve no stats to back that up) so I’m relieved the Sweden match is on the Beeb!

You're right - there was a piece in the Grauniad yesterday about it - our playing record live on BBC, about 50% win ratio, that on ITV way below. Always nice to have a stat to back up your own prejudices. ITV should spent their money on ballsing up other stuff.

Fretters · Post by **Fretters** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:37 am

I like Hoddle. It's good to get an insight on what Southgate might be planning from somebody who's been in that job.

IWOODLOVETT · Post by **IWOODLOVETT** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:48 am

Hoddle ends every comment with a question. "He shoulda done better shouldn't he? "That looked off-side didn't it?" He knows what doing doesn't he?"
It used to get on my tits until I started to count them. The record so far is 42 in one game.

edison · Post by **edison** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:49 am

No more biased than other `home' commentators. Ever listened to Clarets Player?

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:53 am

I cringed on many an occasion listening to Tyldsley particularly. Can`t recall exactly the verbal diarreah but...

"it`s easier to lose it when the man in charge isn`t losing it."

I`ve also never known a man tempt fate so much whilst a game is ongoing.

I talked to him during Euro `96 and he came across as a complete cock.

BackoffDave · Post by **BackoffDave** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:53 am

Hoddle is decent but he was doing my head in pronouncing falcao as Fal-K-O

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:56 am

One thing Hoddle was spot on with last night was saying that England players cannot react to the Columbian antics.

He knows that the gamesmanship has cost England in multiple tournaments.

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:58 am

Not a big fan of Talksport's commentators normally, but listen again to the penalties last night. It gives me goosebumps. They completely lost it!

Foulthrow · Post by **Foulthrow** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:14 am

dsr wrote:England did as much, or nearly as much, diving and pretending to be hurt - the elbow on Henderson's chin that caused him to roll about holding his eye being one example. The difference was that Columbia were extremely stupid play-actors with no self-control, and with no apparent idea that rugby tackling is illegal even in the penalty area.

I agree that the commentary was abysmal.

You mean when he got head butted? Twice? And it got reviewed? And it was a yellow card?

What did you want Henderson to do? He's just been given the opportunity to reduce Colombia to ten men in an exceptionally important game, of course he's going to go down.

Foulthrow · Post by **Foulthrow** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:15 am

dsr wrote:Not enough for a red card IMO. Though when a player is rolling round pretending to be hurt when he doesn't seem to know where it hit him, that suggests he wasn't hit hard. Maguire's antics were a bit off too.

Besides, if that constitutes violent conduct, then perhaps Henderson was lucky to get just a booking for his tiny head-butt?

Yes - he was. In a PL game both would have been sent off. If the ref had missed it I'm sure it would have been have been reviewed and both players would be facing three game bans.

Foulthrow · Post by **Foulthrow** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:18 am

Lordlucan wrote:You're right - there was a piece in the Grauniad yesterday about it - our playing record live on BBC, about 50% win ratio, that on ITV way below. Always nice to have a stat to back up your own prejudices. ITV should spent their money on ballsing up other stuff.

And how many adverts did they squeeze in during extra time and pennos. Completely ruined the build-up to a big moment.

KeighleyClaret · Post by **KeighleyClaret** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:47 pm

dsr wrote: I think that just about every other person who has ever watched a game of football before saw that it was head to jaw (not elbow) and therefore a straight red?

It was head to jaw. Don't suppose anyone has ever been head butted in the jaw but the force is transferred upwards through the jawbones and the impact is felt at the base of the skull, hence you would grab your head in the way Henderson did.

It also hurts. A lot. Hence you go down when it happens.

Cannot imagine why anyone would want to justify the Ref copping out, or suggest somehow that Henderson was cheating.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:40 pm

KeighleyClaret wrote:It was head to jaw. Don't suppose anyone has ever been head butted in the jaw but the force is transferred upwards through the jawbones and the impact is felt at the base of the skull, hence you would grab your head in the way Henderson did.

It also hurts. A lot. Hence you go down when it happens.

Cannot imagine why anyone would want to justify the Ref copping out, or suggest somehow that Henderson was cheating.

Head injuries clearly hurt a lot - far more than they used to, in fact. The number of players going down in desperate pain with head injuries is frightening.

If they introduiced an automatic 10-minute concussion review with no substitute, I wonder how many players would suffer severe head injuries then?

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:43 pm

If Keown uses the word ‘unbelievable’ one more time, he will be paying loyalties to Kamara!

happyclaret17 · Post by **happyclaret17** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:32 pm

The Italians are far more deceptive with their cheating than most of the south american countries.....got to say I have missed the italians at this world cup....hope they qualify for 2022.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:29 pm

happyclaret17 wrote:The Italians are far more deceptive with their cheating than most of the south american countries.....got to say I have missed the italians at this world cup....hope they qualify for 2022.

Wash your mouth out young man
That is a disgraceful accusation

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:47 pm

jesus, you lot should try watching a game over here on Fox when they have an American commentating along with Warren Barton - more often than not if the game is on on a different channel in spanish I prefer that option