Maradona.

Japebe43 · Post by **Japebe43** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:52 pm

Really hates england..

Millertime v1.7 · Post by **Millertime v1.7** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:54 pm

Well, he has a lot of problems with food and drugs and high blood pressure
He really doesn't look after himself

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:00 am

Even if it ended up flat, I would never tire of jumping up and down on his head.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:02 am

pure genius with a football, pure dog turd as a man.

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:54 am

Millertime v1.7 wrote:Well, he has a lot of problems with food and drugs and high blood pressure
He really doesn't look after himself

Does he have some Scottish ancestry

CaptJohn · Post by **CaptJohn** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:08 am

I'm sure that those wonderful chaps in FIFA are now regretting paying him 10K per match as an ambassador. This could be his last FIFA funded "freebie," which is a comforting thought.

Loyalclaret · Post by **Loyalclaret** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:15 am

Not one sided though- have you heard Terry Butcher talking about him over the last few weeks? He clearly hates him with a passion.

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:25 am

Strange how his outburst about England 'cheating' comes from a man who punched a ball into the net and had the audacity to call it 'the hand of god', thereby openly admitting he cheated. I get the impression he is not blessed with too much intelligence. Still, looking at him these days I'd say life hasn't been too kind to him.

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:31 am

Too much Columbian marching powder has inevitably taken it's toll

Lauren12 · Post by **Lauren12** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:34 am

As previously mentioned, this odious fat little rat get paid £10, 000 per appearance as a FIFA ambassador.

This after he openly admitted to cheating to win football matches, abused cocaine, failed a drugs test at the 1994 World Cup, got a drug 15 month ban, oh and recently waved the middle finger at South Korean fans at this WC.

No wonder he was a 'genius' on the football field in the late 80's. He was cheating, plain and simple (both performance enhancing drugs and all the hand ball/ diving/ conning the ref type stuff we know about).

FIFA and Maradona = both made for each other, totally oblivious to the hypocrisy they perpetuate.

lesxdp · Post by **lesxdp** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:38 am

Still, looking at him these days I'd say life hasn't been too kind to him.

I would say he has made his own life choices so it is him that hasn't been kind to himself.

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:48 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:pure genius with a football, pure dog turd as a man.

But what do you REALLY know about him? Have you met him? have you spoken to his family, his loved ones, his friends?
As a general point why are we so willing to dismiss, denigrate and besmirch the reputations of people we've never met? We form opinions based on what we see or hear via the media and then feel we can just write someone off with a horrible little comment like that above.
Another thing: we are all, as individuals a result of our genes and environment, things about which we have no control. Maybe you were abused as a child and then go on to abuse others in adulthood, for example. Everything that happens to us influences how we are.
So maybe I can suggest a little more compassion on the message board?

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:51 am

Loyalclaret wrote:Not one sided though- have you heard Terry Butcher talking about him over the last few weeks? He clearly hates him with a passion.

I remember Lineker going to interview Maradona a few years ago, saying he didn’t hold any grudges about the Hand of God and that he would have done the same if he thought he could get away with it. Fair to say Butcher was less than impressed with is former team mate...

“I wouldn’t shake his hand, I’d still want to chin him!”

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:51 am

Lauren12 wrote:odious

And here's a word I'd like to ban from this forum!
Please if you're going to abuse someone you've never met be a little more creative.

jtv · Post by **jtv** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:53 am

chekhov wrote:But what do you REALLY know about him? Have you met him? have you spoken to his family, his loved ones, his friends?
As a general point why are we so willing to dismiss, denigrate and besmirch the reputations of people we've never met? We form opinions based on what we see or hear via the media and then feel we can just write someone off with a horrible little comment like that above.
Another thing: we are all, as individuals a result of our genes and environment, things about which we have no control. Maybe you were abused as a child and then go on to abuse others in adulthood, for example. Everything that happens to us influences how we are.
So maybe I can suggest a little more compassion on the message board?

Maradona in disguise?

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:02 am

He was an absolute genius of a footballer, back when you had some real hatchet men defenders.

Since then, he's made some fairly self-destructive life choices but to be fair, he generally seems to be enjoying himself. He's probably a few months away from his heart exploding but that's up to him I guess.

As for the handball, give it up. A bookable offence and that's all, he got away with it in a huge match and celebrated the fact but it's still far from the worst crime committed on a football field.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:04 am

Any comments from this cheating cretin should be treated with total contempt.

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:26 am

jtv wrote:Maradona in disguise?

I'd write that about anyone. Doesn't just apply to Maradona.

Lauren12 · Post by **Lauren12** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:31 am

chekhov » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:51 am
Lauren12 wrote:
odious
'And here's a word I'd like to ban from this forum!
Please if you're going to abuse someone you've never met be a little more creative.'

I clearly put my reasons for using this term. He gets paid 10 grand by FIFA to turn up and behave in the way he does. I don't need to meet someone to form an opinion on them. If you want to defend the indefensable, however strange that position is, then go ahead, but you'll be ploughing a lonely field.

Odious cheating little turd. Sorry if that's not 'creative' enough for you, but that's exactly what he is.

If you want 'creative' perhaps visit a craft fair in Hebden Bridge, not a football message board .

Lord Rothbury · Post by **Lord Rothbury** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:48 am

Lauren12 wrote:chekhov » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:51 am
Lauren12 wrote:
odious
'And here's a word I'd like to ban from this forum!
Please if you're going to abuse someone you've never met be a little more creative.'

I clearly put my reasons for using this term. He gets paid 10 grand by FIFA to turn up and behave in the way he does. I don't need to meet someone to form an opinion on them. If you want to defend the indefensable, however strange that position is, then go ahead, but you'll be ploughing a lonely field.

Odious cheating little turd. Sorry if that's not 'creative' enough for you, but that's exactly what he is.

If you want 'creative' perhaps visit a craft fair in Hebden Bridge, not a football message board .

Chekhov has a stall there selling joss sticks.

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:49 am

Lauren12 wrote:chekhov » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:51 am
Lauren12 wrote:
odious
'And here's a word I'd like to ban from this forum!
Please if you're going to abuse someone you've never met be a little more creative.'

I clearly put my reasons for using this term. He gets paid 10 grand by FIFA to turn up and behave in the way he does. I don't need to meet someone to form an opinion on them. If you want to defend the indefensable, however strange that position is, then go ahead, but you'll be ploughing a lonely field.

Odious cheating little turd. Sorry if that's not 'creative' enough for you, but that's exactly what he is.

If you want 'creative' perhaps visit a craft fair in Hebden Bridge, not a football message board .

I don't see why we can't have some creativity on a football message board. I do enjoy a good craft fair though!
You are probably right that that I am ploughing a lonely furrow re. my views on free will versus determinism, but I thought I would give it a go!
By the way I don't know exactly what his role is for FIFA. If he just attends football matches and nothing else then I agree 10 grand seems excessive.
I still think "odious" is overused on this forum. Not my favourite word anyway!

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:51 am

Lord Rothbury wrote:Chekhov has a stall there selling joss sticks.

You seem to know rather too much about me Lord Rothbury. How do you deduce such things?

Millertime v1.7 · Post by **Millertime v1.7** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:00 am

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:Does he have some Scottish ancestry

Wouldn't be surprised to learn he had some glasweigan heritage!

Shore claret · Post by **Shore claret** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:43 am

chekhov wrote:But what do you REALLY know about him? Have you met him? have you spoken to his family, his loved ones, his friends?
As a general point why are we so willing to dismiss, denigrate and besmirch the reputations of people we've never met? We form opinions based on what we see or hear via the media and then feel we can just write someone off with a horrible little comment like that above.
Another thing: we are all, as individuals a result of our genes and environment, things about which we have no control. Maybe you were abused as a child and then go on to abuse others in adulthood, for example. Everything that happens to us influences how we are.
So maybe I can suggest a little more compassion on the message board?

I think most people would see maradona as an indefensible character.

Lauren12 · Post by **Lauren12** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:53 am

He attends football matches as a 'guest' of FIFA (gets paid handsomely by them to do so), and whilst there, makes abusive gestures to rival fans. Oh, and then makes ridiculous comments about FIFA (you know, them that pay him) referee following Colombia's (cant think what the link is there?) defeat to us.

Thanks for the 'free will v determinism' bit by the way, but I dont think a BSc in Psychology in needed to make a reasonable judgement on Diego Maradona.

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:58 am

If you don't think he's a suitable ambassador for FIFA (although I reckon he's entirely appropriate for that organisation) then that's an issue for them, not him. He's hardly likely to turn down that gig.

And making abusive gestures to rival fans.. my goodness, will this depravity never end.

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:06 pm

Lauren12 wrote:Thanks for the 'free will v determinism' bit by the way, but I dont think a BSc in Psychology in needed to make a reasonable judgement on Diego Maradona.

Hello again Lauren. You don't actually need a degree in psychology to get an idea about free will. I just watched some youtube videos! Anyway it's an interesting subject and it helps me to understand why people are the way they are.
I can understand by the way why some might be upset about Maradona's behavior at this world cup. I agree it wasn't very savoury. He's clearly not very well.

Ric_C · Post by **Ric_C** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:14 pm

https://www.thehindu.com/sport/football ... 336866.ece

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:15 pm

chekhov wrote:But what do you REALLY know about him? Have you met him? have you spoken to his family, his loved ones, his friends?
As a general point why are we so willing to dismiss, denigrate and besmirch the reputations of people we've never met? We form opinions based on what we see or hear via the media and then feel we can just write someone off with a horrible little comment like that above.
Another thing: we are all, as individuals a result of our genes and environment, things about which we have no control. Maybe you were abused as a child and then go on to abuse others in adulthood, for example. Everything that happens to us influences how we are.
So maybe I can suggest a little more compassion on the message board?

Nah! F *ck him. I hope he falls off his perch soon.

Lauren12 · Post by **Lauren12** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:19 pm

I agree with you there Nottsclaret, its an issue for FIFA who they deem suitable to be an ambassador (and these 2 go together perfectly well, so no surprise they choose him) and of course, hand gestures to fans, in the grand scheme of things is nothing (when compared to the other colourful things our friend Diego gets up to).

I suppose at the end of day, as an ordinary football fan, I'm just a bit cynical of the whole (snouts in troughs) thing.

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:22 pm

I read his autobiography and I didn't think he came across very well. He seems to have a chip on his shoulder the size of Buenos Aires. He's a washed up drug addict who's only way of staying in the media spotlight is by making outlandish comments like the one yesterday. FIFA should sack him as an ambassador and stop paying for his coke habit!

Bertiebeehead · Post by **Bertiebeehead** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:24 pm

Lauren12 wrote:I agree with you there Nottsclaret, its an issue for FIFA who they deem suitable to be an ambassador (and these 2 go together perfectly well, so no surprise they choose him) and of course, hand gestures to fans, in the grand scheme of things is nothing (when compared to the other colourful things our friend Diego gets up to).

I suppose at the end of day, as an ordinary football fan, I'm just a bit cynical of the whole (snouts in troughs) thing.

It isn’t a trough his snout is in, its a big bag of gak.

Sutton-Claret · Post by **Sutton-Claret** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:27 pm

If he was on fire and I had a glass of water - I'd glass him.....

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:34 pm

Greatest football of all time , now after that he has lost himself in a very large way . Still always will be my hero for the hand of god and then the best World Cup goal ever after that .

Lauren12 · Post by **Lauren12** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:48 pm

But he didn't 'lose himself' after playing football, he was taking drugs whilst playing - as mentioned earlier he tested positive at the 1994 WC for performance enhancing drugs. Without doubt an amazing player and I couldn't really give a toss about the handball against us, because he was just a tiny part of the whole culture of cheating that South Americans led the way/ continue to lead the way in.

Did he need to cheat to be the greatest footballer ever? that we'll never know.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:08 pm

I like him, I'd guess he doesn't give a toss what people on here think about him given his legacy.

Lauren12 · Post by **Lauren12** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:14 pm

says a lot

jtv · Post by **jtv** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:52 pm

NottsClaret wrote:And making abusive gestures to rival fans.. my goodness, will this depravity never end.

If you are an official FIFA ambassador, you cannot act as a "normal" fan - perhaps this point has escaped you Notts.

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:02 pm

scouseclaret wrote:“I would’t shake his hand, I’d still want to chin him!”

You would have thought he'd have moved on by now. Also banging on about still wanting to chin him is a little sad, especially when it comes from a middle aged bloke.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:11 pm

Had a cracking pair of bazookas when she did that Sex book. Bit ropey now though.

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:28 pm

chekhov wrote:But what do you REALLY know about him? Have you met him? have you spoken to his family, his loved ones, his friends?
As a general point why are we so willing to dismiss, denigrate and besmirch the reputations of people we've never met? We form opinions based on what we see or hear via the media and then feel we can just write someone off with a horrible little comment like that above.
Another thing: we are all, as individuals a result of our genes and environment, things about which we have no control. Maybe you were abused as a child and then go on to abuse others in adulthood, for example. Everything that happens to us influences how we are.
So maybe I can suggest a little more compassion on the message board?

Some people just love to argue the toss about anything on here

I'm amazed that anyone can defend the bloke

jtv · Post by **jtv** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:39 pm

He is rallying the troops .........

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Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:43 pm

legend

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:23 pm

Massive turdbag who needs a good hiding.

Shore claret · Post by **Shore claret** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:43 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:legend

Just about sums you up

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:50 pm

Thanks

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:08 pm

Even though I hated the barstard at the time from 86,he's still the best footballer I've ever seen in my lifetime.
The skill,vision and desire to win that he possessed will never be bettered.
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Joe14 · Post by **Joe14** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:15 pm

Flatline wrote:Even though I hated the barstard at the time from 86,he's still the best footballer I've ever seen in my lifetime.
The skill,vision and desire to win that he possessed will never be bettered.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu5-cbf4hMw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Best footballer? Or best cheat???

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:28 pm

Joe14 wrote:Best footballer? Or best cheat???

I've mellowed!

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:41 pm

Tribesmen wrote:Greatest football of all time , now after that he has lost himself in a very large way . Still always will be my hero for the hand of god and then the best World Cup goal ever after that .

How about Thierry Henry’s re-enactment? Did you enjoy that?