Depression / Suicide

[Rumbletonk]

I've no advice as I can't comprehend what your going through. I don't know you, sometimes I agree with you sometimes disagree. Now and again you get me angry but more often make me laugh, I always read what you have to say though. Please don't disappear, you'd be missed. I really hope you get through this

[joey13]

I know how you feel Frank , life has been pretty tough for myself and wife for the past 18 months and it’s crossed my mind , the only thing that has stopped me is being there for my wife and children .
It’s not easy getting professional help either but it’s worth looking in too , don’t give up and all the best .

If you want pm me or even talk don’t hesitate to ask

[Dy1geo]

This thread demonstrates how the internet now can be beneficial to people in times of need. My advice is to speak to an expert who will then correctly diagnose you. I thought that I was suffering from depression but in short my GP diagnosed it as a stress burnout due to my workload, I rearranged my working hours and within a few weeks was feeling totally different.

[quoonbeatz]

hope you get through this, FF.

[pushpinpussy]

There is an awful amount of people who use this board who suffer depression. My advice to you Frank is to come off this board for a while. It’s not beneficial to be around people who are also depressed and negative. You need positivity in your life. Get to the gym. Keep busy. Look for a new job or get something for in your life you can look forward to. Good luck. But leave this site behind fir a while and hopefully when we hear from you agsin you will be sorted.

[cricketfieldclarets]

As above its great that you have opened up and not bottled up. Or bottled up any longer.

Some sound advice on here. Some terrible advice. But good to see the overwhelming majority is from plenty of people who don't even know one another in the real world happy to help out. This board (and the internet) can be amazing at times...

Haven't suffered with depression myself (although do get anxiety - usually in the most irrational scenarios and almost never in the situations you would expect.) Have had people close by suffer with depression though. Some more severe than others including one of my close mates taking his own life. The above post is perfect - a permanent solution to a temporary situation. The carnage that such an action leaves behind is horrendous. But also appreciate how severe one must be suffering themselves to consider or follow through such a thing.

The anxiety usually comes on for me after alcohol. Used to think it was the stupid things done in drink but its definitely not. Any sort of excessive drinking leads to it - especially binge drinking. The psychological 'meltdown' can last for a few days after a heavy session. I've never been a heavy drinker (but often binged) but I limit and control drinking now. (Stag do last week being the first time I have drunk heavily on successive days in a long time and could definitely feel it for a few days after). Beer fear is just an unexplainable hazy / fuzzy feeling in the head. So would definitely echo the sentiments about all drinking if you feel depressed. The cons far outweigh any pros of drinking.

I would also avoid caffeine or coffee. Or at least try and swap for tea. I am not saying this is expert medical advice, but the only real illogical thing that can trigger anxiety for me is lots of strong coffee.

Apart from that the obvious can only be good for your health (Physically and I have no doubt mentally). Excercise, walking, eating good 'proper food', finding a hobby, listening to music, mindfulness, avoiding excessive social media and TV.

The one big thing I have seen missed on here though is sleep. Make sure you get proper sleep. For years I have thought I can survive on less than 6 hours a night. Its ********. Get 7 plus hours of quality uninterrupted sleep. Take the TV and your phone out of your room. Get proper sleep.

But most of all see a professional ASAP

[Rick_Muller]

I would also avoid caffeine or coffee. Or at least try and swap for tea. I am not saying this is expert medical advice, but the only real illogical thing that can trigger anxiety for me is lots of strong coffee.

Caffeine is a central nervous system (CNS) stimulant of the methylxanthine class. It is the world's most widely consumed psychoactive drug. Unlike many other psychoactive substances, it is legal and unregulated in nearly all parts of the world.

From Wikipedia

I believe that caffeine induces the fight or flight response in your body with the slightest increase in anxiety - which is probably why you notice it.

[THEWELLERNUT70]

I've had a flare up recently. Fortunately now I know what the warning signs are, so before it can develop and become something more serious (as it once did) I take myself off to see my G.P.
I'm currently prescribed Mirtazapine 15mg, and it really does help. There is absolutely no shame in seeking medical help and advice and absolutely no shame in firstly admitting things to yourself and secondly to others

[THEWELLERNUT70]

There is an awful amount of people who use this board who suffer depression. My advice to you Frank is to come off this board for a while. It’s not beneficial to be around people who are also depressed and negative. You need positivity in your life. Get to the gym. Keep busy. Look for a new job or get something for in your life you can look forward to. Good luck. But leave this site behind fir a while and hopefully when we hear from you agsin you will be sorted.

It's a fair point.

Part of the professional advice I received was to try to keep yourself busy and not shut yourself away. I was advised to get a calendar and wright upcoming events on it. If its on the calendar you must do it (as I'm sure a lot on here are aware I do a lot of gigging). The effect of this is to give you something to focus on and look forward to, to get you out and about and to hopefully take your mind off things at something you hopefully enjoy doing.

Tonight my calendar says I'm off to see my mate John Bramwell in Sale and that's exactly what I'll be doing

[LoveCurryPies]

It's a fair point.

Part of the professional advice I received was to try to keep yourself busy and not shut yourself away. I was advised to get a calendar and wright upcoming events on it. If its on the calendar you must do it (as I'm sure a lot on here are aware I do a lot of gigging). The effect of this is to give you something to focus on and look forward to, to get you out and about and to hopefully take your mind off things at something you hopefully enjoy doing.

Tonight my calendar says I'm off to see my mate John Bramwell in Sale and that's exactly what I'll be doing

I agree. On my calendar, I try put things to look forward to each day. Might only be a favourite TV programme, or a night out with friends, or even the next Burnley match. But looking forward is the way to go!

[levraiclaret]

Has anyone heard from Frank since Wednesday morning?

Are you ok Frank?

[Inchy]

Frank, you know I don’t live far away. If you want to catch up give me a shout in FB.

Don’t suffer pal. Have you tried slug extermination as a way to relieve your symptoms? Certainly made us laugh at the time

[Steve1956]

How's it going Frank, well I hope.

[FactualFrank]

Feeling a bit better thanks. Less drinking, eating better and more exercise has certainly helped.

[pushpinpussy]

The other day I saw an advert for the suicide helpline on the back of a bus. I couldn't help but think, surely it would work much better on the front.

[Steve1956]

Feeling a bit better thanks. Less drinking, eating better and more exercise has certainly helped.

I was just asking because our results recently won't have brightened your mood,but glad for you it's going well

[Steve1956]

The other day I saw an advert for the suicide helpline on the back of a bus. I couldn't help but think, surely it would work much better on the front.

That made me giggle,although It shouldn't have.

[ontario claret]

Just saw this post for the first time. Then I saw the author and date. The best remedy for depression is humour. So, in that vein, that threat I made a little while ago to undo all my `likes`for you to`ùnlikes` I take back. Does that help anyÉ

[CombatClaret]

Feeling a bit better thanks. Less drinking, eating better and more exercise has certainly helped.

Only just spotted this Frank, hope you are well mate, your posts are always worth reading and I always smile when you give me a like as I know it's from someone with an opinion I value.

My girlfriend suffered from depression as well as very mild forms of OCD and tourettes (which manifests itself in an uncontrollable pronounced blink at times). She was on medication for a while but didn't like it.
The best thing she did was go through some Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT) which sounds very grand but isn't a big deal but can be a huge help. All she did was learn to change her thoughts on some small things or how she let things effect her and now she's very much a changed person.

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I'm sure your brave enough to go see a GP and have a talk. Diet, drinking and exercise all help too in great ways. I started cycling late last year and just that small change has done me wonders in my mood, just a couple miles to the shop is a great start.

Wishing you all the best.

[Jakubclaret]

Good advice above, whatever works for 1,

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If I'm down in the dumps I listen to that, go for a drive & a short walk in the countryside.

[Kushman42]

My friend had really serious problems with depression and we had to rescue him from committing suicide. The help we found on cannasos.com and consulted with his therapist about cbd oils and their influence. He tried and it helped.

[HiroshimaClaret]

[quote="Quickenthetempo"]Exercise and natural daylight help depression.

Anxiety- don't fight it, just try and let it pass with as little fuss as possible if you can.

Talk to your best friend or close family member on the phone. There's nowt more re-assuring.[

spot on -

a good breakfast (poached eggs/salmon) lunch and dinner will be a whim in align with your feelings
multi-vitamins
half your alcohol intake
walk -- be it for 30 minutes or 2 hours
be around people eves if you don`t want to interact (this helped me massively)...

not being patronising as this worked hugely for me - DEEP BREATHS and actively push out the negative triggers.

and if you still live in the Burnley area get yourself up Pendle Hill - the greatest place on Earth.

Good luck mate and remember to talk to your friends xxxxx

[LoveCurryPies]

A few years ago, I downloaded my emails at 7am and there was one from a friend saying by the time you read this I will be dead. Went on to say he was about to hang himself. It had been sent at midnight.

It was devastating to receive such an email. I contacted the police and they traced his mobile to a grotty hotel. They arrived at the same time as the Ambulance and found him still alive but with bruises from the rope around his neck. He was in hospital for several weeks. Even though he survived, it deeply upset me for some considerable time.

I've had depression and still do from time to time. But no matter how bad things get, don't underestimate just how devastating your death will be to family and friends.

[Jakubclaret]

My friend had really serious problems with depression and we had to rescue him from committing suicide. The help we found on cannasos.com and consulted with his therapist about cbd oils and their influence. He tried and it helped.

Cannabis can help SOME people immensely, sometimes you need to be silly & behave in a daft manner & forget about what's troubling your soul.