Pickford.. Verdicts?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:33 pm

superb but hasn't had to come for a cross yet which is where he struggles - top draw today though like the rest of the team

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:33 pm

Shorter keepers make routine saves world class looking. A taller keeper would have got to them. What Pickford has is amazing spring in his legs. I thought he played very well today however his distribution let him down .

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:35 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:If it was going over it was doing so after smashing the bar.

Incorrect. Might have shaved the bar but it was never going in. Same as the 40 yarder the other night. He's all about the camera saves.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:41 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:Incorrect. Might have shaved the bar but it was never going in. Same as the 40 yarder the other night. He's all about the camera saves.

This is so ******* dumb. So he should be letting those ones go? The ones hit like bullets that if they're on target would require reflex saves, you're saying he's spending time calculating that they're not going in and then getting a touch onto them anyway? lol. Don't be so ******* stupid.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:02 pm

I think this thread shows how thick our fans are

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:03 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:.. So he should be letting those ones go?

Absolutely. You're talking rubbish, quoon.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:04 pm

KRBFC wrote:I think this thread shows how thick our fans are

Not thick just so deaparatly obsessed and blinketed where the clarets are concerned

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:05 pm

So many with an agenda that it's a little sad. Pick Ford has been pretty much flawless so far and like many others including the manager has gone a long way to proving why they are there.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:06 pm

Superb today and generally assured a slight worry about his distribution but that will improve I expect.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:06 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:This is so ******* dumb. So he should be letting those ones go? The ones hit like bullets that if they're on target would require reflex saves, you're saying he's spending time calculating that they're not going in and then getting a touch onto them anyway? lol. Don't be so ******* stupid.

Ones that are clearly missing the goal, yes.

Its simple stuff. Anyway, get yourselves out in the sun lads, it's coming home.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:10 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:Ones that are clearly missing the goal, yes.

Its simple stuff. Anyway, get yourselves out in the sun lads, it's coming home.

But neither of them were clearly missing the goal. The first one you whined about, v Colombia, it takes replays to see it's going barely wide. The one today even after replays i'm still not convinced it isn't thumping the bar. So how the **** can you expect a goalkeeper to know for certain in the moment that he can leave it?

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:18 pm

I'll admit I was looking for flaws in Pickford but after that penalty save and some outstanding stops today you can't help but say he's the right man for the job.

I love Pope, but Pickford is having a great tournament.

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:19 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:Ones that are clearly missing the goal, yes.

Its simple stuff. Anyway, get yourselves out in the sun lads, it's coming home.

To be fair, it isn't clearly missing the goal even in replays now.

I called him out for the columbia one but I was drunk and ****** off. You can't expect him to leave them.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:39 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:The first one you whined about, v Colombia, it takes replays to see it's going barely wide. The one today even after replays i'm still not convinced it isn't thumping the bar.

To the untrained eye, maybe, but I called them both without needing replays.

And lol at 'whined'. Just calling things as they are.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:51 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:To the untrained eye, maybe, but I called them both without needing replays.

And lol at 'whined'. Just calling things as they are.

So you're still going with your contention that Pickford is calculating that these balls are going wide and over and deliberately putting them out for a corner just to look good. Really?

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:18 pm

I had my doubts about Pickford but he has been superb.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:19 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:To the untrained eye, maybe, but I called them both without needing replays.

And lol at 'whined'. Just calling things as they are.

You’re either trolling or stupid (or both).

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:21 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:So you're still going with your contention that Pickford is calculating that these balls are going wide and over and deliberately putting them out for a corner just to look good. Really?

I agree, that’s a ridiculous suggestion. Judging where is is going from a tv screen as you follow the flight of the ball is one thing, judging it coming towards you with the bar behind you is another.

Claretlad · Post by **Claretlad** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:36 pm

Good enough...

CBT · Post by **CBT** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:40 pm

He's got the strongest hands Ive seen in a keeper for some time and I might be wrong but sure he made a good if not great save at turf last season

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:56 pm

With his performances for Everton I was concerned about how well he’d play, but I’m glad to say, with a better standard of defending in front of him he has done well, better that I expected and better than I thought Pope would do.

That said, in my opinion, Heaton would have been a better option had he not been injured early season. There’s good competition for keepers in England now, and they’re all the better for it.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:00 pm

CBT wrote:He's got the strongest hands Ive seen in a keeper for some time and I might be wrong but sure he made a good if not great save at turf last season

Yeah from a Barnes header, tremendous save, not helped by the defence infront of him last year, Keane, Williams and Jagielka are all awful.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:02 pm

Heaton has pretty strong hands. So strong that he hurt his elbow once saving from Ibrahimovic.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:05 pm

Pickford is an excellent keeper, or he would not be there.

Played well tonight. Couple of recently saves.

Pope ..Courtois....would not even have been an issue they have the size, the arm length and the demeanour.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:10 pm

IanMcL wrote:Pickford is an excellent keeper, or he would not be there.

Played well tonight. Couple of recently saves.

Pope ..Courtois....would not even have been an issue they have the size, the arm length and the demeanour.

Are you serious after all the shite you've posted.

CBT · Post by **CBT** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:16 pm

KRBFC wrote:Yeah from a Barnes header, tremendous save, not helped by the defence infront of him last year, Keane, Williams and Jagielka are all awful.

That's the one couldn't find it on the highlights but remember thinking great save

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:37 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:So you're still going with your contention that Pickford is calculating that these balls are going wide and over and deliberately putting them out for a corner just to look good. Really?

No, I'm saying he makes saves he doesn't need to make. Didn't matter today but against Columbia it did.

He's doing ok this tournament but he's not done anything that any other goalkeeper wouldn't find routine.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:39 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:No, I'm saying he makes saves he doesn't need to make. Didn't matter today but against Columbia it did.

He's doing ok this tournament but he's not done anything that any other goalkeeper wouldn't find routine.

To be fair that's just utter shite

Shore claret · Post by **Shore claret** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:44 pm

He's doing well pickford, he does make some Hollywood saves.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:53 pm

taio wrote:To be fair that's just utter shite

To be fair, that's just utter shite.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:57 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:To be fair, that's just utter shite.

Clueless.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:59 pm

taio wrote:Clueless.

You certainly seem so.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:01 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:No, I'm saying he makes saves he doesn't need to make. Didn't matter today but against Columbia it did.

He's doing ok this tournament but he's not done anything that any other goalkeeper wouldn't find routine.

Perhaps you can explain his penalty save or the great save just before Colombia scored. No.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:03 pm

taio wrote:Perhaps you can explain his penalty save or the great save just before Colombia scored. No.

He didn't need to make that penalty save because the next Colombian penalty taker would have hit it over anyway. That's the thing with Pickford, always making saves he doesn't have to make.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:07 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:He didn't need to make that penalty save because the next Colombian penalty taker would have hit it over anyway. That's the thing with Pickford, always making saves he doesn't have to make.

Exactly, didn't need to make that wonderful penalty save that without it would have certainly put England out of the world cup. Makes saves he doesn't need to make.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:07 pm

taio wrote:Perhaps you can explain his penalty save or the great save just before Colombia scored. No.

Penalty save was an ideal height and any goalkeeper who had been primed which way to go should have saved it. Its becoming more surprising when keepers don't stop pens now given the amount of research done. Needs to be a really good pen to score these days.

The 'great save' was from a shot going at least a yard wide. Didn't need saving. However, given he's a titch, pickford feels he needs to make sure of such efforts.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:09 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:Penalty save was an ideal height and any goalkeeper who had been primed which way to go should have saved it. Its becoming more surprising when keepers don't stop pens now given the amount of research done. Needs to be a really good pen to score these days.

The 'great save' was from a shot going at least a yard wide. Didn't need saving. However, given he's a titch, pickford feels he needs to make sure of such efforts.

If you think the penalty save was standard you're a complete fool.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:15 pm

taio wrote:If you think the penalty save was standard you're a complete fool.

Ok brainiac but I think its more i know a good penalty when i see one. Really wasn't a great penalty at all. Just had to go the right way and stick his arm up. Seriously, I've saved better penalties than that.

I'd have backed any of our keepers to save it especially as they knew which way he was going to go with it.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:23 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:Ok brainiac but I think its more i know a good penalty when i see one. Really wasn't a great penalty at all. Just had to go the right way and stick his arm up. Seriously, I've saved better penalties than that.

I'd have backed any of our keepers to save it especially as they knew which way he was going to go with it.

This is completely laughable. Standard penalty save.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:23 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:Ok brainiac but I think its more i know a good penalty when i see one. Really wasn't a great penalty at all. Just had to go the right way and stick his arm up. Seriously, I've saved better penalties than that.

I'd have backed any of our keepers to save it especially as they knew which way he was going to go with it.

Definitely a troll. Getting a better response than the quality of the trolling deserves.

CBT · Post by **CBT** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:27 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:Penalty save was an ideal height and any goalkeeper who had been primed which way to go should have saved it. Its becoming more surprising when keepers don't stop pens now given the amount of research done. Needs to be a really good pen to score these days.

The 'great save' was from a shot going at least a yard wide. Didn't need saving. However, given he's a titch, pickford feels he needs to make sure of such efforts.

If there was an unlike button for this comment I'd be pressing like mad

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:29 pm

This is the best bit:

"Seriously, I've saved better penalties than that"

No you haven't

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:34 pm

taio wrote:This is completely laughable. Standard penalty save.

Correct. Standard penalty save. Power and placement were lacking and the keeper knew which way to go.

Would have been very disappointed if he'd not saved it, as he said himself.

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:36 pm

Too much 'over the top' diving about for my liking......so far so good.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:37 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:Correct. Standard penalty save. Power and placement were lacking and the keeper knew which way to go.

Would have been very disappointed if he'd not saved it, as he said himself.

Sure you would with all your better penalty saves. Cock.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:38 pm

taio wrote:This is the best bit:

"Seriously, I've saved better penalties than that"

No you haven't

Prove it.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:40 pm

taio wrote:Sure you would with all your better penalty saves. Cock.

Amazing how cross some people get on the internet. Go to bed taio, and less of the choice language.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:45 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:Amazing how cross some people get on the internet. Go to bed taio, and less of the choice language.

It's all it deserved after the most stupid statement for a while.

Seriously, I've saved better penalties than that

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:45 pm

Some of the sh1te posted on here re Pickford utterly beggars belief . Especially people quoting stuff like “ pope or courtous etc would have saved easily as they’re taller
And their arms are longer

“

Please tell me this is fishing ? While a keeper needs to be tall per se , to think that “ taller they are more they save” ...it’s up there with “ the harder you kick it the more you’ll score” god almighty words really do fail

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:48 pm

taio wrote: Seriously, I've saved better penalties than that

I don't doubt it pal, so have I!