Nixon news tomorrow

kaptin1 · Post by **kaptin1** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:52 pm

mdd2 wrote:Deano is still free and would be better than nothing for the MF.
He could turn out to be a second Lenny Johnrose as a resigning MF player

Lenny is also available

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:53 pm

joey13 wrote:I’ve been told on numerous occasions that Dyche isn’t part of the recruitment team

Apart from being the one who decides who we want.

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:53 pm

Longsider wrote:Mawson no strongly linked with Fulham

I assume now and not "not"

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:55 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Apart from being the one who decides who we want.

That is not being part of the recruitment team

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:57 pm

Dyche has the final say

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:57 pm

joey13 wrote:That is not being part of the recruitment team

Well... it is, if Dyche is the one identifying the targets.

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:57 pm

Fulham have been told its 25 mill for Mawson

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:58 pm

Longsider wrote:Mawson no strongly linked with Fulham

Yeah iv'e seen the Fulham link,but i think we have a better chance of landing him.
I don't have any proof of that,but we must look a more attractive option than Fulham.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:59 pm

That would be the single most surprising thing i'd heard in many, many a year joey.

Dyche RUNS our football team, and has a massive amount of responsibility in other areas. Does anyone REALLY think he isn't THE major player on the recruitment team?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 4:08 pm

bartons baggage wrote:Yeah iv'e seen the Fulham link,but i think we have a better chance of landing him.
I don't have any proof of that,but we must look a more attractive option than Fulham.

More attractive than Fulham ? How do you work that out ? They can offer him London (where he is from), probably much higher wages than us, a board that is considerably backing the manager with some superb signings.

You might need to enlighten me as to how we are more attractive to Mawson ?

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 4:12 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:More attractive than Fulham ? How do you work that out ? They can offer him London (where he is from), probably much higher wages than us, a board that is considerably backing the manager with some superb signings.

You might need to enlighten me as to how we are more attractive to Mawson ?

Because we can offer European football, Viva!

Every player grows up wanting to play Thursday/Sunday each week, didn't you know?

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 4:14 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Because we can offer European football, Viva!

Every player grows up wanting to play Thursday/Sunday each week, didn't you know?

But maybe playing in Europe until Thursday

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 4:15 pm

mdd2 wrote:But maybe playing in Europe until Thursday

You old cynic!

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 4:20 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:More attractive than Fulham ? How do you work that out ? They can offer him London (where he is from), probably much higher wages than us, a board that is considerably backing the manager with some superb signings.

You might need to enlighten me as to how we are more attractive to Mawson ?

Respect for our manager and how he has improved our signings in the past and helped them progress to be called up and play for England

And we can offer him European football

And we are now an established Premier League Club

Longs1de · Post by **Longs1de** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 4:23 pm

Best place to watch home leg in gran canaria

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 4:46 pm

DustyBawls wrote:I think we'll sign fewer than 8 players.

You heard it here first.

You only 'think' we'll sign fewer than 8 players? I'm absolutely certain it will be less than 8!

1968claret · Post by **1968claret** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 5:05 pm

KRBFC wrote:He's never going to come out and say that is he? why would he be at odds with the chairman or directors?

Because it is their policies that you seem to think he is frustrated with. What I am saying is that the reason he might not say anything is that he might just be bought into it. He might be in agreement with them, that it is the right policy for our club.
We have operated this way for the last few years and the fact he hasn’t left might just suggest he is happy with how we do our business?

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 5:16 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:More attractive than Fulham ? How do you work that out ? They can offer him London (where he is from), probably much higher wages than us, a board that is considerably backing the manager with some superb signings.

You might need to enlighten me as to how we are more attractive to Mawson ?

The fact you ask that question tells me you have little understanding of the way our club operates.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 5:20 pm

DustyBawls wrote:I think we'll sign fewer than 8 players.

You heard it here first.

You couldn't say that if you were a Brighton fan

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 5:32 pm

1968claret wrote:Because it is their policies that you seem to think he is frustrated with. What I am saying is that the reason he might not say anything is that he might just be bought into it. He might be in agreement with them, that it is the right policy for our club.
We have operated this way for the last few years and the fact he hasn’t left might just suggest he is happy with how we do our business?

I think he's frustrated with the way it's worked out in the market, it comes across in his interviews. I don't think he's at war with the chairman though....

1968claret · Post by **1968claret** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 6:41 pm

KRBFC wrote:I think he's frustrated with the way it's worked out in the market, it comes across in his interviews. I don't think he's at war with the chairman though....

Yes I think he is frustrated, as we all are, but he understands and, my personal belief, has played a big part in our recruitment policy.

I think he puts great emphasis on not having any huge disparities in the wages we offer players.
Fingers crossed we have one or two new faces in soon.

claret59 · Post by **claret59** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 6:44 pm

It seems obvious that the Manager and Chairman have a good working relationship and a close understanding of how the club works. Dyche has hinted more than once that Burnley are 'in the market' and intend to sign some new players. Dyche knows the type of player he wants and I'd be amazed if the Chairman was not trying hard to meet his manager's criteria.
There must be demands on a Chairman over and above signing players.
Some of the clubs who have spent big ( aside from the top six,) have hardly set the football world alight with established 'big names.'

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:10 pm

For those who are interested, Mike Garlick did an interview around the end of last season. He spoke of the club's approach to recruitment and everything related to recruitment. There was a thread on here around the time.

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Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:26 pm

bartons baggage wrote:The fact you ask that question tells me you have little understanding of the way our club operates.

if you say so

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:02 pm

As the chairman expects the club breaking it s transfer record and that being the going rate for PL players. I would imagine 3 players equates to £60m plus wages. I can't see more than 3 coming in. Whether any of them get a game is open to debate.

BFC123 · Post by **BFC123** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:11 pm

Dawson not in the West Brom squad for their friendly today. He’s going this week, but is it to us? Jay was on the bench. West Brom will drop their price as the window gets closer. I think both deals will happen, but both need to get close this week. Would imagine we’ll end up with 3 signings to replace the players that left. Forward, CB, and a CM/wide player.

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:57 pm

I've just decided to assume we're not going to sign anyone.

That way it's a nice surprise if we do.

mikeS · Post by **mikeS** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:57 pm

Lee Trundle. The best Player Burnley never Bought.
Last club Llanelli Town 2016-18 he scored a massive 68 goals in 45 games.
Now signed for Haverford West
He's now 41, matured nicely and deserves a chance I think. He'd do a great job for us.

Longsider · Post by **Longsider** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:00 pm

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:I've just decided to assume we're not going to sign anyone.

That way it's a nice surprise if we do.

I agree but the only caveat to this is when we end up with what could be a couple of panic buys. But you know what If the recruitment team ring me up in a panic I'll sign on for 6 months.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:04 pm

BFC123 wrote:Dawson not in the West Brom squad for their friendly today. He’s going this week, but is it to us? Jay was on the bench. West Brom will drop their price as the window gets closer. I think both deals will happen, but both need to get close this week. Would imagine we’ll end up with 3 signings to replace the players that left. Forward, CB, and a CM/wide player.

If they get £30m from us for these two they've still had us.

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:07 pm

BFC123 wrote:Dawson not in the West Brom squad for their friendly today. He’s going this week, but is it to us? Jay was on the bench. West Brom will drop their price as the window gets closer. I think both deals will happen, but both need to get close this week. Would imagine we’ll end up with 3 signings to replace the players that left. Forward, CB, and a CM/wide player.

Dawson is injured

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:07 pm

I think it's just as likely we end up with a couple of panic buys, a la Nahki Wells.

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:09 pm

We seem to go year after year without really committing vast sums of money, as "the min targets become unavailable " so presumably what we did not spend of the forecast transfer fee alone, then gets banked at some considerable interest rate. so if this is correct, and taking in to account the success of last year, surely we have a massive transfer kitty (transfer fee only) to play with?

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:14 pm

Another vote for Lee 'watch him' trundle

IWOODLOVETT · Post by **IWOODLOVETT** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:20 pm

The loan market might be interesting.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:26 pm

ClaretAL wrote:We seem to go year after year without really committing vast sums of money, as "the min targets become unavailable " so presumably what we did not spend of the forecast transfer fee alone, then gets banked at some considerable interest rate. so if this is correct, and taking in to account the success of last year, surely we have a massive transfer kitty (transfer fee only) to play with?

Don't want to rain on your parade but it's not that simple,there are still transfer instalments to pay,bonuses to the players and staff,and normal running costs,ground improvements etc,OH! yes also the taxman to pay and any other outgoings.

Even if for the sake of argument we had a kitty of say 100 million for transfers,we would still have wages to factor into the equation,and these are a longer commitment usually 3 years minimum,the board are ultra cautious for a reason,if we go down the salaries still have to be financed,although i would guess most if not all the squad have relegation clauses inserted which cushions the financial impact.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:41 pm

tiger76 wrote:Don't want to rain on your parade but it's not that simple,there are still transfer instalments to pay,bonuses to the players and staff,and normal running costs,ground improvements etc,OH! yes also the taxman to pay and any other outgoings.

Even if for the sake of argument we had a kitty of say 100 million for transfers,we would still have wages to factor into the equation,and these are a longer commitment usually 3 years minimum,the board are ultra cautious for a reason,if we go down the salaries still have to be financed,although i would guess most if not all the squad have relegation clauses inserted which cushions the financial impact.

Nixon apparently said that we want better players but aren't prepared to pay the going rate in wages. If that's the case then there is a bit of naivety in our transfer dealings.

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:50 pm

....not if we can’t afford to pay them.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:56 pm

BennyD wrote:....not if we can’t afford to pay them.

But what's the point in making bids as we'll know from agents what the players want?

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:56 pm

jrgbfc wrote:I think it's just as likely we end up with a couple of panic buys, a la Nahki Wells.

Silly to write Nakhi Wells off. He came to us overcoming an operation, and therefore not fully fit. He had to compete with 3 very good strikers, 2 of whom were having great seasons. His cameo at the end of last season show he is a good footballer. His attitude in interviews show he isn't frightened of fighting for a place. I don't think we can judge him until he's had a good run in the starting XI. I wouldn't class him as a panic buy at all, but a squad player waiting for the opportunity

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:01 pm

Time to scout abroad,Dawson,Clucas,Mawson,Rodriguez all went down to the Championship with thier respective clubs and 75 million is being banded about as the price for them....much more value to be had abroad....we must have some other targets than these four.....can i say it ??last seasons losers.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:03 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:Silly to write Nakhi Wells off. He came to us overcoming an operation, and therefore not fully fit. He had to compete with 3 very good strikers, 2 of whom were having great seasons. His cameo at the end of last season show he is a good footballer. His attitude in interviews show he isn't frightened of fighting for a place. I don't think we can judge him until he's had a good run in the starting XI. I wouldn't class him as a panic buy at all, but a squad player waiting for the opportunity

You would of thought he would of got a run out the other day but he never . I should imagine he will play tomorrow

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:10 pm

tiger76 wrote:Don't want to rain on your parade but it's not that simple,there are still transfer instalments to pay,bonuses to the players and staff,and normal running costs,ground improvements etc,OH! yes also the taxman to pay and any other outgoings.

Even if for the sake of argument we had a kitty of say 100 million for transfers,we would still have wages to factor into the equation,and these are a longer commitment usually 3 years minimum,the board are ultra cautious for a reason,if we go down the salaries still have to be financed,although i would guess most if not all the squad have relegation clauses inserted which cushions the financial impact.

No problem Tiger, but this is why i added "transfer fee alone"

Longsider · Post by **Longsider** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:14 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:Silly to write Nakhi Wells off

What's he like in goal?

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:33 pm

Crouch

Longsider · Post by **Longsider** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:37 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:Crouch

Please no.

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:41 pm

When in the Championship we are prepared to spend 100% of our incoming, but in the prem we don't come near.

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:45 pm

"Brighton target Liam Moore, 25, who has handed in a transfer request, was left out of the Royals' squad for their friendly at home to Crystal Palace on Saturday. (Brighton Argus)"

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:58 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:Crouch

That story (thank god) is not Nixons.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:45 am

I don't mind Crouch, although we have no need for another target man. Just the underlying feel.of are we so 'cheap. All that money and too frightened to spend it.
I agree, and always have, with the way the club has done it's business. But players are overpriced, and they are mostly over paid. Unless we can accept that as a fact and join the party, we are in danger of blowing the last 5 years.
I know the season hasn't kicked off yet, but we look in disarray, on and off the pitch, with injuries, fitness levels, form and transfer dealings. We don't want to play catch up in the Premiership because that would really leave us with a hill possibly too steep to climb.