Burnley v Montpellier

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Re: Burnley v Montpellier

Post by Goody1975 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:21 pm

Spijed wrote:Anfield has restricted views, along with wooden seats. Should they knock down their stands?
Wooden seats? You mean in the main stand they knocked down two years ago?

The restricted view seats are at the back of the Anfield Road end and plans are place for a new stand when the club feels it is financially viable.

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Re: Burnley v Montpellier

Post by cutsy123 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:23 pm

Glad i dint bother today. Heard it was an awful.game

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Re: Burnley v Montpellier

Post by MDWat » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:25 pm

Shore claret wrote:Looks handy goodridge, **** haircut
I hope that’s a joke? He was absolutely woeful. Slow, every pass misplaced. Nowhere near close to being good enough, just one to improve(?!) the U23s.

Dunne was good. Both full backs were absolutely shocking. O’Neill did ok, McNeil ok, but the rest was a sorry sight. Walters wasn’t even remotely interested in playing.

A total write off of a game. Don’t think the players wanted to be there and I certainly wished I wasn’t by the end.
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Re: Burnley v Montpellier

Post by MDWat » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:26 pm

cutsy123 wrote:Glad i dint bother today. Heard it was an awful.game
A kind summary. Delighted I’m not on next Sunday.

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Re: Burnley v Montpellier

Post by DCWat » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:30 pm

cutsy123 wrote:Glad i dint bother today. Heard it was an awful.game
Worst pre season I can remember. Never expect much from these games but today was **** poor.

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Re: Burnley v Montpellier

Post by Flat Stanley » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:39 pm

Won't bother next Sunday after that. Showed absolutely nothing. Can only remember 2 shots we had in the whole game. Don't seem to have any attacking philosophy or idea how to break a team down. Was not expecting much but Jesus that was awful. Youth team seems to have nothing to offer the first team based on that. Dunne did ok and O'Neil if we are struggling for players.The others are nowhere close from that game. Crying out for creative players. Hope the rumours about Crouch are not true and we get the type of players it is obvious to everyone we need.

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Re: Burnley v Montpellier

Post by BigChaCha » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:43 pm

That's why we have sold out for the Aberdeen game then and have a waiting list for tickets --or is that a crock of shite too?
It's the europa league ffs. Not many fans from any team in the whole Europe have ever gave a toss about it and especially so when it's in the pre-season, when everyone is on holiday against an unfashionable Scottish team. If we are still in the comp in a few months against some big teams we will see bigger crowds but for now nobody cares. I could of told you that months ago!

To say it's a indication of an apathy among Burnley fans when we are one of the best supported teams per head of population and have been for a long time is just poppycock or is that a crock of shite too?

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Re: Burnley v Montpellier

Post by Blackrod » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:48 pm

Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:That's why we have sold out for the Aberdeen game then and have a waiting list for tickets --or is that a crock of shite too?
I agree if we don't sellout for Aberdeen that is a very poor do. Non competitive pre season games with no new signings are unlikely to attract vast numbers.

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Re: Burnley v Montpellier

Post by BigChaCha » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:49 pm

Worst pre season I can remember.
The worst pre season I remember was under Jimmy Mullen in the pre season for the promotion to the first division season playing the best football I have ever seen at Burnley. Pre seasons mean nothing!

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Re: Burnley v Montpellier

Post by dibraidio » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:55 pm

From the Montpellier equivant of UpTheClarets:
A Burnley, les Pailladins sont allés chercher un score de parité contre une formation mixte. L’entraîneur britannique avait choisi logiquement de faire tourner après le nul en Coupe d’Europe jeudi soir. Le contraire de Michel Der Zakarian qui avait aligné une équipe quasiment type au coup d’envoi. Score final (0-0) avec selon l’unique live tweet fourni par le site officiel et aucune image visible les meilleures occasions pour les Anglais et quelques arrêts de Lecomte et un sauvetage sur la ligne de Mendes. Rendez-vous à Sète contre le Genoa samedi prochain pour l’ultime test.
Which translates as
At Burnley, les Pailladins (la Paillade is the area of Montpellier where the Mosson stadium is (named after the river)) have got a draw against a mixed opposition. The British coach logically chose to make changes after Thursday night's draw in the Europa league. The opposite of Michel Der Zakarina who put out more or less a full first team for the start of the game. Final score (0-0) with, according to the official site's live tweets and no images, the best opportunities were for the English side and several saves by Lecomte and a goal lign clearance from Mendes. See you all in Sete next Saturday fro the last test of pre-season against Genoa.
So it would appear that our cobbled together side managed a clean sheet against their first XI which will no doubt please SD.

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Re: Burnley v Montpellier

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:57 pm

BigChaCha wrote:It's the europa league ffs. Not many fans from any team in the whole Europe have ever gave a toss about it and especially so when it's in the pre-season, when everyone is on holiday against an unfashionable Scottish team. If we are still in the comp in a few months against some big teams we will see bigger crowds but for now nobody cares. I could of told you that months ago!

To say it's a indication of an apathy among Burnley fans when we are one of the best supported teams per head of population and have been for a long time is just poppycock or is that a crock of shite too?
Thank you BCC for confirming that the Burnley fans are not superfans as many think, they are just as apathetic towards supporting their club in a European competition as those of other clubs.
As you say ---nobody cares, except perhaps a few of us who are willing to support the team, even against "an unfashionable Scottish team" who, incidentally, have won two European trophies more than our beloved Clarets.
I do hope that, if we make progress, they can all get tickets for the games they want to see.

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Re: Burnley v Montpellier

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:58 pm

Bet the few who bothered to go down today are really glad they made the effort!

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Re: Burnley v Montpellier

Post by Duffer_ » Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:03 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Bet the few who bothered to go down today are really glad they made the effort!
I enjoyed it because I took it for what it was. I thought O'Neill played well - everything went through him. And a word for the much maligned Legzdins - faultless (and Heatonesque in his vocal organising).

UTC!

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Re: Burnley v Montpellier

Post by Shore claret » Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:06 pm

MDWat wrote:I hope that’s a joke? He was absolutely woeful. Slow, every pass misplaced. Nowhere near close to being good enough, just one to improve(?!) the U23s.

Dunne was good. Both full backs were absolutely shocking. O’Neill did ok, McNeil ok, but the rest was a sorry sight. Walters wasn’t even remotely interested in playing.

A total write off of a game. Don’t think the players wanted to be there and I certainly wished I wasn’t by the end.
No its not a joke, I thought he looked handy

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Re: Burnley v Montpellier

Post by ecc » Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:12 pm

The fact that this match was played four days before an historic game (were all these people now saying the EL is rubbish coming out with that last season?) quite obviously impacted today's game and gate. i have always hated friendlies and always will. But they're a necessity.

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Re: Burnley v Montpellier

Post by clarethomer » Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:20 pm

Went on today - just not feeling the excitement of the upcoming season at the moment but for £40 for 3 games this week, thought it was good value at £13 a game.

I thought O'Neil and Dunne were our best players today - a very assured performance imo. I don't know what anyone was expecting today when we play on Thursday in a competitive match - it was always going to be about giving time to those who are unlikely to be involved.

Didn't realise that was their full strength 1st team, so given that I think Dyche will be happy with that. Think people sometimes try and read too much into pre-season friendlies. It all about fitness and getting that sharpness back.

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Post by KlyBfc » Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:05 pm

BigChaCha wrote:It's the europa league ffs. Not many fans from any team in the whole Europe have ever gave a toss about it and especially so when it's in the pre-season, when everyone is on holiday against an unfashionable Scottish team. If we are still in the comp in a few months against some big teams we will see bigger crowds but for now nobody cares. I could of told you that months ago!

To say it's a indication of an apathy among Burnley fans when we are one of the best supported teams per head of population and have been for a long time is just poppycock or is that a crock of shite too?

I for one do not understand why any Burnley fan wouldn’t want to be at Thursdays game. Some no doubt can’t make it due to holidays (I’m one of those) etc, but if it’s possible you surely have to be making the effort. It’s been 52years and it could quite easily be that again if we get knocked out. Surely our fans aren’t arrogant enough to wait for the so called bigger games.

As one of the generation born in the 80s watching us at the very bottom these two games vs Aberdeen mean an awful lot to me.
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Re: Burnley v Montpellier

Post by Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:10 pm

How many were there today?

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Re: Burnley v Montpellier

Post by mkmel » Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:13 pm

Duffer_ wrote:I enjoyed it because I took it for what it was. I thought O'Neill played well - everything went through him. And a word for the much maligned Legzdins - faultless (and Heatonesque in his vocal organising).

UTC!
When I first tuned in to the commentary and heard the vocals I thought Tom Heaton was playing

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Re: Burnley v Montpellier

Post by Shore claret » Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:28 pm

Im_not_Robbie_Blake wrote:How many were there today?
Not many

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Post by clarethomer » Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:35 pm

if I was to guess - around 2-3k.

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Post by claretandy » Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:37 pm

just over 4k.

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Re: Burnley v Montpellier

Post by Winstonswhite » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:03 pm

Goody1975 wrote:That just isn't the case though is it?

The majority of people on here talk of ground redevelopment not massive capacity increases, there are thousands of substandard seats in the ground with the majority of these always being the last to be sold.

The Bob Lord and Cricket Field Stand have supporting pillars which are only listed as restricted view if you can't see both goals, the concourse in the Bob Lord is crowded and the CFS at times unacceptable.

The lower tier in the new stands are too low with the front three rows of the JHL below pitch level making the view abysmal and very open to the elements.

So in short any capacity increase would be nominal taking the turf from 21,900 to 23,000 at most but if people are paying £30+ for a seat we should be giving them a view expected from a top flight club in 2018 not 1988.
Sorry, have to pull you up on this. I’ve been to every ground in the Premier League over the last few years and the view from the BFS and CFS is up there with the best of them due to them being raised above pitch level whilst also close to the pitch.

I get the points raised about the concourses but it’s like that at every ground and only due to the bars’ location immediately next to the passageways.

To say there are thousands of substandard seats is absolute ******** quite frankly. Be careful what you wish for.
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Re: Burnley v Montpellier

Post by tim_noone » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:21 pm

BFS. ?

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Post by Goody1975 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:24 pm

Winstonswhite wrote:Sorry, have to pull you up on this. I’ve been to every ground in the Premier League over the last few years and the view from the BFS and CFS is up there with the best of them due to them being raised above pitch level whilst also close to the pitch.

I get the points raised about the concourses but it’s like that at every ground and only due to the bars’ location immediately next to the passageways.

To say there are thousands of substandard seats is absolute ******** quite frankly. Be careful what you wish for.
********, thanks for that.

Raised above pitch level?

Check, mentioned as regards the issues with the JHL


The issues mentioned were as regards the supporting pillars within the two stands, any development would hopefully see the Bob Lord extended back to the road with a cantilever roof, larger corporate area and with a bit of nouse the concourse would be entended to allow the extra capacity without issue.

As for the CFS, it is showing it's age and with the talk of safe standing on the horizon it is the ideal place within Turf Moor to house a stand accommodating this.

Yes i didn't mean 10,000 seats but if you add the first few rows of the new stands to seats within the BLS and CFS that has some kind of restricted view it will a couple of thousand.

Half of that could be resolved with ground improvements, only a time machine can solve the hideous mistake of the Linpave eyesores.
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Post by Diesel » Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:30 pm

tim_noone wrote:BFS. ?
Big Fat Sam, until he gets another job he's hiring himself out as a football stand.
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Post by ranjexel » Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:46 pm

Uninspiring performance today. But Dunne and McNeil look promising.

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Post by joey13 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:29 pm

Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:It still won't stop the clamour from those wanting the ground made bigger.
It is not a Sunday afternoon training session for your information because admission is being charged and they are playing against a French Ligue 1 side who finished in 10th place last season.
Overall, the small attendance is an indication of the apathy which exists amongst a lot of local fans who just can't be arsed but who will continue to criticise the club for anything and everything. It is the Burnley way and has been for over 65 years that I have been going to the Turf.
From stupid to rubbish well done

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Re: Burnley v Montpellier

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:48 pm

joey13 wrote:From stupid to rubbish well done
I am truly honoured that someone with such a pedigree as you think that I am stupid and post rubbish, I shall do my best to ensure that I continue just for your benefit, it will save you moaning about other folk.
I hope that you showed enough apathy to steer clear of paying for a Sunday afternoon training session, it appears that many others did and many also seem apathetic to the fact that the Clarets are playing in a European competition of Thursday.
Oh dear, more rubbish. I suppose, because I'm sure that there must be a big waiting list for tickets and people are moaning that they will not get the chance to watch the match because there are never any tickets for them because they can't get two seats together etc., etc.

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Post by joey13 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:58 pm

Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:I am truly honoured that someone with such a pedigree as you think that I am stupid and post rubbish, I shall do my best to ensure that I continue just for your benefit, it will save you moaning about other folk.
I hope that you showed enough apathy to steer clear of paying for a Sunday afternoon training session, it appears that many others did and many also seem apathetic to the fact that the Clarets are playing in a European competition of Thursday.
Oh dear, more rubbish. I suppose, because I'm sure that there must be a big waiting list for tickets and people are moaning that they will not get the chance to watch the match because there are never any tickets for them because they can't get two seats together etc., etc.
I live abroad so no I couldn’t be arsed to attend a Sunday afternoon training session, but I will be attending our first home European match in over 50 years if that’s ok with you.

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Re: Burnley v Montpellier

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:01 pm

Just watched on Clarets Player.
I'm inclined towards the positive here. Our young players are better than our young players (barring one or two exceptions) have been for decades.

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Re: Burnley v Montpellier

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:09 pm

joey13 wrote:I live abroad so no I couldn’t be arsed to attend a Sunday afternoon training session, but I will be attending our first home European match in over 50 years if that’s ok with you.
You can do what you like, it is what life is all about. Freedom to do and say what you want, it's wonderful. isn't it?
I lived abroad for 8 years back in the 60s and 70s and I never asked anyone for permission to attend a game so you just do what you want.
Have a safe trip and enjoy the game.

Strange that you, like myself, travel to games which was exactly my point. I stated that there was apathy amongst 'local fans' who can't be arsed etc. and I still stick with this viewpoint because many fans travel quite a distance to support the Clarets and just get on with it but there are lots that live in the local area that just don't bother but are very vocal about the club and always quick to criticise.

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Post by levraiclaret » Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:06 pm

Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:Surely not a small crowd. Loads of fans are always banging on about the ground being made bigger to accommodate all those who say they can't just walk on when they want.
They have the chance today and don't even bother, perhaps there isn't any need to do anything.
Perchance it is due to the absence of loyalty points for this fixture?
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