Mike Garlick

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:33 am

dsr wrote:What a load of self-indulgent and self-entitled bilge.

Under Mike Garlick's chairmanship, it is true, we last year finished below Man City, Man United, Liverpool, Chelsea, Tottenham, and Arsenal. In my opinion there's no disgrace in that; you might disagree and think that Burnley last season were below par and should have been higher. Or you might think we were about where we would be expected to be; or you might even think we were pretty good.

And you disregard all that body of work, and want him sacking, because we haven't signed the players you want?

Here's a suggestion. Bear in mind that there is a reason why we play a 38 game season, and it's to establish who's best. There are no relegations issued to people that don't signt he players you want. Why not wait and see what happens on the field, and then (if we fall below eight or fail to win the Europa League, then you can dish out all the oppobrium that failure deserves. In your opinion, of course.

Haha you're on top form tonight Dsr, your defensive posts are hilarious, proper meltdown.

The Enclosure · Post by **The Enclosure** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:44 am

Unbelievable OP.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:07 am

" He has not got someone else telling him who to recruit, it’s his decision.”

Quote from the Garlick article there.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:32 am

There is some definite middle ground between being frustrated and wanting to see people move on.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:03 am

Garlick out
Billionaire in

Dyche out
Thierry Henry in

Barnes out
Some flash in the pan from Watford in for £50m

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:10 am

claretandy wrote:" He has not got someone else telling him who to recruit, it’s his decision.”

Quote from the Garlick article there.

How can this be when we where told unequivocally that Dyche wasn’t part of the recruitment team , can someone in the know please confirm once and for all whether he is or isn’t , thank you

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:38 am

Seem to remember it was only a few years ago that Craig Dawson was supposedly sat in the stand at our pre season match with PNE and ready to sign.
WBA then offered him a new contract which we were not prepared to match
MG must be having nightmares about what he would cost today compared to that scenario a few years back
Costs within football are rising all the time and you have to bite the bullet at some stage
If Dawson was to cost £20m plus wages, then gave us good service over 4 years, is that not money well spent ?

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:57 am

And if he didn't and we get relegated that is a big hole on our finances.
Unlike most other clubs in this league we have the £98 million guaranteed which all the others have, so a level playing field there. Little or no extra money from TV as we always get the minimum. Smallest gate receipts as we have one of the smallest grounds and I suspect our prices from ST are one of the lowest in this league. Our sponsorship deals are also likely to be at the bottom or near the bottom of the clubs in this league and merchandise likewise. Finally because we are owned by local business men there is no money incoming from what at times will be dodgy money from countries where fiddling is more common than here or an ability to make a quick buck is easier than here.
Put all that together and you can see where we are as a club-punching above our weight and we will eventually run out of energy.
As of now we are weaker number wise than last season and it is looking increasingly likely that all we will get this transfer window are players to get us to a squad of 24 or 25 without getting better than we have lost. This seems to me to put us at the bottom of the league for squad strengthening and more likely than not due to our finances rather than recruitment. This season like all before will be another big ask for survival and IMO those talking of a repeat or bettering last season are not in the real world of football in 2018. We have amazing back room staff and manager but there is a limit to what this club can achieve without billionaire owners, a bigger fan base and bigger ground to fill (the latter most unlikely to achieve much in the absence of the fan base)
Now I am off to get my tin hat!!!!!!!

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:47 pm

Has been the best chairman in my time 50yrs + supporting the Clarets .He has given us 3 seasons on the run in the top flight and overseen great changes in our Gawthorpe facilities
All he needs now is to sort out ticket office sales and hes done.We have players at Burnley who far exceed what we saw previously.
We are Premier league run by a brilliant chairman.
Enjoy the journey

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:49 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:Has been the best chairman in my time 50yrs + supporting the Clarets .He has given us 3 seasons on the run in the top flight and overseen great changes in our Gawthorpe facilities
All he needs now is to sort out ticket office sales and hes done.We have players at Burnley who far exceed what we saw previously.
We are Premier league run by a brilliant chairman.
Enjoy the journey

Good post but what’s point of enjoying the journey when you can spend all day on here moaning!

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:10 pm

Im sure lots of our support would rather have this type of scenario to the one we have now,becareful what you wish for boys.
THE man who ended Brian Laws’ playing career at Turf Moor knows he will never be popular in Burnley.

A quarter of a century on, John Bond admits his time in charge of the Clarets remains one of the biggest regrets of his life.

Mention Bond’s name in the town, and most Burnley fans who remember the era will not speak fondly of him.

The first man without a Clarets connection to manage the club in 31 years, he was sacked after a solitary season in charge in 1983/84 – a campaign that saw the Clarets finish 12th in Division Three, having been relegated the year before.

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:54 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:Has been the best chairman in my time 50yrs + supporting the Clarets .He has given us 3 seasons on the run in the top flight and overseen great changes in our Gawthorpe facilities
All he needs now is to sort out ticket office sales and hes done.We have players at Burnley who far exceed what we saw previously.
We are Premier league run by a brilliant chairman.
Enjoy the journey

I agree with all of the above but I must say I feel the Board aren't supporting Dyche enough this summer. I'm expecting to be proven wrong by the 9th August but rumours about Peter Crouch are not what we want to be hearing at the moment.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:00 pm

jlup1980 wrote:I agree with all of the above but I must say I feel the Board aren't supporting Dyche enough this summer. I'm expecting to be proven wrong by the 9th August but rumours about Peter Crouch are not what we want to be hearing at the moment.

How do you figure that out? I thought it was fairly well documented that we have a big war chest this summer. That doesn’t mean that we should make poor value signings though.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:55 pm

Rileybobs wrote:How do you figure that out? I thought it was fairly well documented that we have a big war chest this summer. That doesn’t mean that we should make poor value signings though.

It was never mentioned anywhere that we have a big war chest for this summer. The Chairman merely stated that the budget would be higher than what we spent last year

Given we made a small profit on transfer fees (exc wages) last year then it won't take much to better it this summer

Nobody wants the club to make poor value signings (we had several of them last season

)

It seems to me that SD has made clear what he considers to be his desired targets to improve the first team, and even thought we would likely have to break our transfer record to get some, if not all of them, in.

Given the impasse in current negotiations with certain clubs maybe MG does not see these targets as representing the value he requires

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:04 pm

jojomk1 wrote:It was never mentioned anywhere that we have a big war chest for this summer. The Chairman merely stated that the budget would be higher than what we spent last year

Given we made a small profit on transfer fees (exc wages) last year then it won't take much to better it this summer

Nobody wants the club to make poor value signings (we had several of them last season )

It seems to me that SD has made clear what he considers to be his desired targets to improve the first team, and even thought we would likely have to break our transfer record to get some, if not all of them, in.

Given the impasse in current negotiations with certain clubs maybe MG does not see these targets as representing the value he requires

I’d class £40m + as a big war chest, wouldn’t you?

And whereas Mike Garlick has control of the purse strings, I doubt very much he is the person who determines what makes a signing good value. We have football experts to do that.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:24 pm

Where have you seen we have a £40m+ war chest ?
As far as I was aware (from comments on here and in press) we put in a combined bid of around £20 - 25m for Dawson and Jay Rod
Isn't the £40m figure what WBA are asking for, hence the impasse
Given MG signs the cheques I would think he has final say on who and what is spent

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:26 pm

If you want your cooperate boxes doing up, Mike is your man. If you want to sign any players, he most definitely isn't

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:26 pm

I can't believe there are 5 people willing to put their names to a plea to sack the chairman. (One of whom has put his name to it 9 times.)

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:34 pm

jojomk1 wrote:Where have you seen we have a £40m+ war chest ?
As far as I was aware (from comments on here and in press) we put in a combined bid of around £20 - 25m for Dawson and Jay Rod
Isn't the £40m figure what WBA are asking for, hence the impasse
Given MG signs the cheques I would think he has final say on who and what is spent

In your previous post you said that it has been stated that we will have more to spend than last season. By my calculations we spent circa £40m last season.

I doubt very much that Garlick is the person who decides what figure represents good value for a player.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:36 pm

dsr wrote:I can't believe there are 5 people willing to put their names to a plea to sack the chairman. (One of whom has put his name to it 9 times.)

Read post 5.

I pressed the wrong button last night. I pressed like instead of quote, then I pressed it again because I thought that would delete it, but it just added another like. Then I thought, f**k it and kept on pressing it.

claretcarrot93 · Post by **claretcarrot93** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:42 pm

Rileybobs wrote:In your previous post you said that it has been stated that we will have more to spend than last season. By my calculations we spent circa £40m last season.

I doubt very much that Garlick is the person who decides what figure represents good value for a player.

We did not spend anything last season apart from wages. Gray and Keane covered the incoming transfer fees.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:46 pm

claretcarrot93 wrote:We did not spend anything last season apart from wages. Gray and Keane covered the incoming transfer fees.

We spent circa £40m last season.

I went out this weekend and bought loads of drinks but I didn’t spend anything because I got paid by my employer.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:49 pm

Rileybobs wrote:In your previous post you said that it has been stated that we will have more to spend than last season. By my calculations we spent circa £40m last season.

I doubt very much that Garlick is the person who decides what figure represents good value for a player.

You seem to be forgetting that we also received around £45 - 50m from transfers out (Keane, Gray, Darikwa etc)

Total budgets include incomings as well as outgoings hence the small profit.

And before you reply please note I did say this figure did not include wages (yes we paid out more wages for new players but we also saved on wages for anyone who left the club during the same period)

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:51 pm

Rileybobs wrote:We spent circa £40m last season.

I went out this weekend and bought loads of drinks but I didn’t spend anything because I got paid by my employer.

You finally got it !!

You didn't spend anything - and neither did the club

claretcarrot93 · Post by **claretcarrot93** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:56 pm

Rileybobs wrote:We spent circa £40m last season.

I went out this weekend and bought loads of drinks but I didn’t spend anything because I got paid by my employer.

Must have bought a lot of drinks seen as it seems you're still drunk now with that comparison.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:59 pm

jojomk1 wrote:You seem to be forgetting that we also received around £45 - 50m from transfers out (Keane, Gray, Darikwa etc)

Total budgets include incomings as well as outgoings hence the small profit.

And before you reply please note I did say this figure did not include wages (yes we paid out more wages for new players but we also saved on wages for anyone who left the club during the same period)

We were told we’d probably be breaking our transfer record this summer. You have said we were told we’d spend more than last season. We spent circa £40m last season. If the chairman was referring to our net spend on transfers then why would there even be a need to tell the fans that we’d spend more than last season, as it’s pretty difficult to spend less than -£10m.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:02 pm

claretcarrot93 wrote:Must have bought a lot of drinks seen as it seems you're still drunk now with that comparison.

You seem to have a fundamental lack of understanding of how buying and selling works. Just because you sell something (in my analogy above, my labour), that doesn’t mean that everything you buy below that value (in my analogy, drinks) doesn’t register as spending.

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