Dyche: We may have to break the bank

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Re: Dyche: We may have to break the bank

Post by summitclaret » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:18 pm

And the same people will be defending the indefensible.

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Re: Dyche: We may have to break the bank

Post by Murger » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:20 pm

fidelcastro wrote:And regardless of who arrives before the deadline, the same people will still be getting their knickers in a knot come January.

:roll:
Nobody is signing, and in January we'll hear the same excuses about an inflated market etc.

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Re: Dyche: We may have to break the bank

Post by fidelcastro » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:22 pm

Murger wrote:Nobody is signing, and in January we'll hear the same excuses about an inflated market etc.
How do you know no one is signing?

Are you psychic?

Or is it that you just haven't seen owt on twitter yet? :roll:

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Re: Dyche: We may have to break the bank

Post by Reecey1987 » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:23 pm

fidelcastro wrote:How do you know no one is signing?

Are you psychic?

Or is it that you just haven't seen owt on twitter yet? :roll:
I think slowly everybody is starting to lose faith . We have had long enough

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Re: Dyche: We may have to break the bank

Post by Murger » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:24 pm

fidelcastro wrote:How do you know no one is signing?

Are you psychic?

Or is it that you just haven't seen owt on twitter yet? :roll:
Haha. Just listen to Dyche's interview. He doesn't sound positive at all. He's been well and truly shafted.

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Re: Dyche: We may have to break the bank

Post by fidelcastro » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:26 pm

Long enough? Have we?

We may as well have shut the window last week then!

Or it could be that the Window is still open for a reason, and signings are close.

It's all immaterial though, because the same people whining about no signings will be the same ones that say whoever we do bring in isn't good enough, or even over priced!

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Re: Dyche: We may have to break the bank

Post by Tall Paul » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:29 pm

Murger wrote:Nobody is signing.
Are you willing to put money on that?

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Re: Dyche: We may have to break the bank

Post by Blackrod » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:31 pm

Our club is unusual in that it is being run as a business. Mike Garlick has done a good job doing this. This means we can't compete with the stupidness of wages and fees. The risk is we could get relegated. We don't have a benefactor and if you want us to compete 'to the next level' it will mean selling the club to someone who is. If we can't source players more cheaply via lower leagues or overseas you will have to choose which you want.

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Re: Dyche: We may have to break the bank

Post by Blackrod » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:33 pm

To add to that yes we finished 7th but this was a one off and is not sustainable if we are to run as a proper business that balances the boooks sensibly.

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Re: Dyche: We may have to break the bank

Post by randomclaret2 » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:37 pm

This " balancing the books" line gives the impression the club is losing money.

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Re: Dyche: We may have to break the bank

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:39 pm

It's much easier when you know where the bank is ;)

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Re: Dyche: We may have to break the bank

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:41 pm

It’s becoming very concerning. We are in a far weaker position as it stands than we were at the start of last season.

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Re: Dyche: We may have to break the bank

Post by ClaretAndJew » Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:47 pm

SEAN Dyche admits Burnley will struggle to compete with the rest of the Premier League long-term if the transfer market continues to rocket and the club’s prudent policy doesn’t move forward.

The Clarets have been hit by a summer of frustration and with just seven days of the window remaining Dyche is yet to add to his squad.

Burnley have found it a difficult balancing act in recent years in recruiting for the Premier League while refusing to put the club’s future at risk.

That has become even more difficult this summer, with moves for West Brom duo Craig Dawson and Jay Rodriguez and Swansea pair Alfie Mawson and Sam Clucas yet to materialise.

Meanwhile Dyche has had to watch clubs such as Brighton and Fulham splash the cash ahead of the new season.

“Brighton’s owner is very wealthy, Fulham’s owner I’m told virtually a billionaire. There’s no jealousy,” Dyche said of those two clubs. “They’ve all got their own ideas of what they want to do. I want to do a bit of that but I wouldn’t do it at the cost of a club, it’s just not right.

“The challenge is opening the club’s mind enough to go some way to keep up, because the whole of the football business is saying ‘all the best with that, we’re going up here’. Stretch and not break. It’s not easy.”

With the market taking steps forward every summer, Burnley could find themselves left behind at some stage.

Asked if clubs like Burnley could compete at this level long-term, Dyche said: “It’s tough. Probably, no. The market will probably outrun you at some point. Possibly, yes, football is weird like that. You can throw everything at the pitch and it doesn’t work.

“There are new investors coming into clubs across the land, there are plenty of stories not so good. This club doesn’t want to be one of the not-so-good stories.

“The challenge is how far you stretch it to allow us to continue moving forward, and keep progressing and challenging at the top level. That’s the tough side of it, finding that balance.”

Burnley began the summer in a position of strength, with another pot of Premier League cash in the bank and European football an added attraction.

That has made little difference in recruiting the targets Dyche wants, but asked if failing to strengthen in this window would represent a missed opportunity, the Clarets chief added: “It’s not about that. You only miss an opportunity if you’ve got a lot of money and you throw it around.

“The opportunity has to be right for the club and if it’s not right that’s the way it goes. There’s no point overthinking it, I could tell you I’ve got £100m to spend, but I haven’t, and I haven’t any year.

“We continue to work with the players we’ve got, who finished seventh in the Premier League. We want to support those players and get more of a competitive edge.”

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Of potential deals before the end of the window, Dyche said on Wednesday that there were ‘a couple pending that we think we have a chance on’.

One deal that the club thought was done had got away from them, and while he did not mention names it’s understood that is Mawson, who was close to joining the Clarets a week ago before a late move from Fulham.

Asked if Dyche had ever experienced players wanting to move to Turf Moor but being unable to do so due to finance, he said: “We’ve had a couple.

“Agents get a bit of stick, but I had one agent agree to take less in his fee to get a player here. That stood him in good stead with me as a person.

“I’ve a couple of players who have stayed here when people have tried to get them out. I’ve had agents who want players to come here because it’s right for them. Eventually, money wins the day.”

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Re: Dyche: We may have to break the bank

Post by FactualFrank » Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:01 pm

So basically if we're to keep up with the crazy spending clubs we need some big investment.

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Re: Dyche: We may have to break the bank

Post by Steddyman » Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:03 pm

FactualFrank wrote:So basically if we're to keep up with the crazy spending clubs we need some big investment.
Or we need to be relegated.

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Re: Dyche: We may have to break the bank

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:15 am

Steddyman wrote:Or we need to be relegated.
and then we wont be able to keep up with Derby and Boro etc

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Re: Dyche: We may have to break the bank

Post by claretblue » Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:53 am

Dyche:
'...It's a strange thing as a manager because you sit there in the summer and you go 'yeah, I can see that one', and you convince yourself, 'that'll happen, that'll happen, that'll happen', and then you go, 'that one's gone, gone, gone'.
"So you get to now and you're going, 'that's not looking quite as good as we thought it might look'. The reality bites.
"But it's not a new thing for us. And I've always said, unless someone buys the club who's got hundreds and hundreds of millions to put into it, the club will be run in a manner that protects it, because it's been so close to real, drastic trouble...'

article in Independent:

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