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Team for Cardiff

Post by Blackrod » Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:42 pm

Clearly nobody that came in has staked a claim or wants to play enough other than Defour. Same as v Bournemouth I think. Maybe Defour to partner Cork if not on bench.

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by claretspice » Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:50 pm

As per Bournemouth for me. Can't see any reason to change it.

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by Belgianclaret » Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:27 pm

claretspice wrote:As per Bournemouth for me. Can't see any reason to change it.
Agreed, Defour's a damn good option from the bench though

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by taio » Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:31 pm

I'd have thought the only possible change from the side against Bournemouth - barring injuries - could be Barnes for Vokes. But makes a lot of sense to stick with the same team as last Saturday.

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by claretspice » Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:54 pm

Belgianclaret wrote:Agreed, Defour's a damn good option from the bench though
Can definitely see the argument and attraction of sticking him on the bench - I assume that will boil down to his recovery last night, although I've my doubts about Defour as a sub - he strikes me as the sort of player who is a bit of an injury risk when he's coming off the bench, relatively cold (and by the same token, I'm not sure he's the sort of player who will be able to quickly make an impact on a game off the bench).

I think we're all focusing on Hudds a week on Saturday for his first start - which is ideal, as it's exactly the sort of game when we'll need him, and a 4-2-3-1 with him and Cork behind Vydra, JBG and Lennon, looks to have exactly the sort of ingredients we've lacked occasionally in these sorts of games.
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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by Colburn_Claret » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:31 pm

Same as Bournemouth


We need to get back to a consistent starting XI. I'd make an exception for Defour when he's ready, and the same for Brady.

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by thatdberight » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:34 pm

If Defour couldn't conjure up something winning against Burton, I'm not sure why Ashley Westwood, who didn't do the glory stuff against Bournemouth but was, at least, as influential as the two wingers, would be dropped for him.

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by Jakubs Tash » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:42 pm

If your best players are fit, play them...and play your best players in their best positions.

Same as last week but Defour for Westwood.

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by jurek » Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:42 pm

I'd be a tad worried if we started with just Defour ad Cork in midfield.
It's one of those games where we're going to be under pressure for
probably longish periods of the game as Cardiff will be seriously up for getting their first win.

I think we might need both Cork and Westwood alongside Defour
leaving just two up front - Vydra and Vokes/Barnes or Wood.
Unless of course we bang in a couple fairly early on.

However that would mean dropping one of our wingers and can't see that happening
after Saturday when it seems Lennon and JBG were our best players.

I suspect Dyche will start with the team against Bournemouth and have the option of bringing
on either Defour, Barnes or Wood or others where required.

Personally I'd give Wood a start. He needs to find his touch and see whether he can
get something going with Vydra. They are our most likely goalscorers this season
albeit Barnes bagged two on Saturday.

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by FactualFrank » Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:48 pm

jurek wrote:I think we might need both Cork and Westwood alongside Defour
leaving just two up front - Vydra and Vokes/Barnes or Wood.
What formation are you playing with 3 central midfield and 2 up top? SD isnt going to do anything other than 451, 4411 or 442.

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:31 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:If your best players are fit, play them...and play your best players in their best positions.

Same as last week but Defour for Westwood.
Westwood has his best game for us against Bournemouth.

Not sure how we fit Defour in the team.

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:39 pm

Hart
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Ward
Gudmundsson Westwood Cork Lennon
Vydra Vokes
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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by Jakubs Tash » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:43 pm

Burnleyareback2 wrote:Westwood has his best game for us against Bournemouth.

Not sure how we fit Defour in the team.
He didn't last night....

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by Carport » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:48 pm

jurek wrote:I'd be a tad worried if we started with just Defour ad Cork in midfield.
It's one of those games where we're going to be under pressure for
probably longish periods of the game as Cardiff will be seriously up for getting their first win.

I think we might need both Cork and Westwood alongside Defour
leaving just two up front - Vydra and Vokes/Barnes or Wood.
Unless of course we bang in a couple fairly early on.

However that would mean dropping one of our wingers and can't see that happening
after Saturday when it seems Lennon and JBG were our best players.

I suspect Dyche will start with the team against Bournemouth and have the option of bringing
on either Defour, Barnes or Wood or others where required.

Personally I'd give Wood a start. He needs to find his touch and see whether he can
get something going with Vydra. They are our most likely goalscorers this season
albeit Barnes bagged two on Saturday.
Wood and Vydras combo didn’t work against Burton. What makes you think they should start against Cardiff? Vydra and Vokes for me to start

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by Carport » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:48 pm

Let’s give Cardiff the Vs!!

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by Nonayforever » Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:29 pm

Can't imagine Wood even making the bench against Cardiff.

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by Murger » Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:24 pm

Barnes and Vydra up top for me, the rest the same as Bournemouth.

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by thatdberight » Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:48 pm

Murger wrote:Barnes and Vydra up top for me, the rest the same as Bournemouth.
That's the combination I'd like to see tried. I don't think it will though. Unless it's during one of SD's trademark offset substitutions where he disrupts our own shape by making 2 attacking substitutions 4 minutes apart...

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by Bop » Thu Sep 27, 2018 1:24 am

Rush back
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Ward
Westwood
Defour Cork
JBG McNeil
Vydra
Barnes

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by jurek » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:54 pm

Vert interesting selection Bop.
Radical I would have to say.

Starting without a goalkeeper would surprise most opposition.

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:16 pm

As I'm sure has been mentioned, I don't see why we just don't start with the same team that beat Bournemouth 4-0, but with Defour making the bench. If he does start then it'll be instead of Westwood.

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by Dyched » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:25 pm

Same as Bournemouth for me.

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by Ric_C » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:33 pm

Vokes might be an asset at corners though, at both ends of the field

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Sep 27, 2018 6:15 pm

I've thought for some time that one of SD's strengths was fielding the same team week after week, and showing faith in that selection.
Perhaps it's time to get back to that, so same team as vs Bournemouth.

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by Claretmatt4 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:57 am

Have faith with the team that won at Bournemouth.

We can bring Barnes and Defour on if it's not going our way at half time.

Really want to see Vydra and Vokes develop a good relationship, I think they pair up better than any of our other strikers.

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by jedi_master » Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:06 am

Hart
Lowton Tarkowksi Mee Taylor
Lennon Cork Defour Gudmundsson
Vydra
Barnes

Defour and Barnes were the only players arguably to come out of Burton with any credit, whilst Westwood played well against Bournemouth - Defour is our best player and if fit has to play, for me. Vokes has been doing OK but is not offering a goal threat, Barnes looked in the short period he had on the pitch against Burton to be back to what I expect of him.

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by Wisswosswass » Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:28 am

Same as Bournemouth, barring Barnes in for Vokes. Simply because that Cardiff defence look clumsy and a bit disorganised. Barnes would wind them up big time, plus he seems the most likely of him, Wood and Vokes to hit the old onion bag.

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by HiroshimaClaret » Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:57 am

Claretmatt4 wrote:Have faith with the team that won at Bournemouth.

We can bring Barnes and Defour on if it's not going our way at half time.

Really want to see Vydra and Vokes develop a good relationship, I think they pair up better than any of our other strikers.
Not seen much of him but could Vydra fill the Ings role which seemed to bring the best out of Vokes?

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:06 pm

Ric_C wrote:Vokes might be an asset at corners though, at both ends of the field
At only one end of the field now.

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:09 pm

HiroshimaClaret wrote:Not seen much of him but could Vydra fill the Ings role which seemed to bring the best out of Vokes?
That was 5 years ago. Vokes is a shadow of the player he was then.

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by HiroshimaClaret » Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:11 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:That was 5 years ago. Vokes is a shadow of the player he was then.
A fair point...he does look a little on the cumbersome side BUT Woods is hardly pulling up any trees at the moment. Vokes or Barnes for me with Vydra.

I`ll keep pushing for 4-3-2-1 (will be great and have superb options if/when Defour and Brady return)
Even if it isn`t Plan A, it would certainly be better than no Plan B

Hart
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
Hendrick Cork Westwood
Gudmundsson Vydra
Barnes

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:29 pm

'he does look a little cumbersome'

Lumbering describes him for me.

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by Mala591 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:40 pm

Hart
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor
JBG Defour Cork Lennon
Vokes Vydra

Very difficult decision to drop Westwood who has been playing very well but Defour is more creative. So Defour for the first 60 minutes just edges it. Vokes linked up well with Vydra against Bournemouth and deserves to keep his place. Start with JBG on the right.

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:14 pm

Hart
Lowton Long Tarkowski Taylor
Defour Westwood Cork Gudmunsson
Vydra Barnes
Subs Lennon Vokes Mee McNeil Heaton Hendrick

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by jurek » Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:59 pm

That sounds like a decent first eleven, Woodleyclaret
although I think Dyche will start with Lennon - possibly instead of Defour.
Especially given Lennon had a good game against Bournemouth.

If he and JGB can deliver the same form as last week then we could be in
with a chance of 3 points which would be 'massive' and send out a clear message.

Lose and Cardiff will go above us and feel they're still in with a chance of staying up
whereas we will still be regarded as bottom three.

A win alongside a good performance will do wonders for our confidence and
put us in the right frame of mind for Huddersfield next week.

Especially given we've got Man City and Chelsea to follow

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by FactualFrank » Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:52 pm

Hart
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor
JBG Westwood Cork Lennon
Vydra Vokes

Defour an option in the second half, probably for Westwood, depending on how the game is going.

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by SGr » Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:49 pm

Same team as at Bournemouth. We’ve just seen exactly what happens when we change a winning side :lol: :?

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by MRG » Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:51 pm

Other than the village idiot not a single person has suggested playing Ward. Poor defending can be coached out of a young player, avoiding tackles for whatever reason simply can’t be condoned

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Re: Team for Cardiff

Post by Hibsclaret » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:41 pm

Im_not_Robbie_Blake wrote:Hart
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Ward
Gudmundsson Westwood Cork Lennon
Vydra Vokes

Bit disrespectful calling INRB a village idiot.

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