Banksy

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:26 am

Genius

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-45770028" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:35 am

his credibility is in shreds!

Loyalclaret · Post by **Loyalclaret** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:40 am

Brilliant

Bet there were some faces in the room, the buyer probably has an item that has increased in value.

TheOriginalLongsider · Post by **TheOriginalLongsider** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:47 am

It probably is worth more now but shows how pretentious the art world can be !

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:51 am

It shows how pretentious ‘Banksy’ can be.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:53 am

Pranksy?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:59 am

They could probably sell this image now too

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 12:22 pm

Wonder if he'll be able to flog the 'Memory' of it for 2 mil?

hawxi · Post by **hawxi** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:05 pm

Absolute top class. A stroke of genius from an artist that will go down in history as time goes on..

He already is in many art circles - but remains an upstart in the eyes of many of the old school art establishments - with no recognised museum shows to date, other than ones he has organised himself.

He set the scene on this perfectly,has his most iconic image hanging in the auction room for over a week for viewing, highest profile auction at the week long start of Freize Art London, last lot of the auction, gets the piece bid up to a million pounds, had a dedication noted on the back of the piece that ads further to the 'joke' and pulls off the shredding to perfection..

Add this to the below list of thought provoking and subversive 'art' acts.. gotta love the guy!

Just a handful of the things he has done over the years

https://gizmodo.com/banksy-sold-225-000 ... 1444833251" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX54DIpacNE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; )

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/3201344.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW-rt3jyZU8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; )

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-44140200" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-mid ... -bethlehem" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesig ... youth-club" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dismaland" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2NG-MgHqEk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; )

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesig ... or-tribute" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Burnley Ace · Post by **Burnley Ace** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:46 pm

It was all set up! Banks working with the auction house and organisers.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:57 pm

I wonder what his mission is or did he decline it?

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:59 pm

wanksy

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:26 pm

Brilliant by a street artist seeing his work entering the mainstream, against his will.

Long may Banksy stun us all

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:39 pm

IanMcL wrote:Brilliant by a street artist seeing his work entering the mainstream, against his will.

Ha!

He's the shy and retiring "street artist" who hired himself an agent and publicist.

Millertime v1.7 · Post by **Millertime v1.7** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:41 pm

Lads, you're laying on the applause a bit thick. The hive mind amongst the old guard on here can be a bit much at times :-l
Take a step back and realise his work is contrived and trite.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:48 pm

Rowls wrote:Ha!

He's the shy and retiring "street artist" who hired himself an agent and publicist.

What's his real name?

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:48 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:What's his real name?

W@nksy

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:51 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:What's his real name?

Graham Branch

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:51 pm

so many questions here
- was it the original or a copy?
- if a copy is that fraud?
- was the auction house in on it?
- was the buyer in on it?
- if genuine, I assume that as title hadn't transferred then the buyer doesn't lose out, but does Banksy pay the commission to the auction House?
- does anyone actually know how the set-up worked?

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:52 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:What's his real name?

I believe it's well known in the art world though I have never cared to find out.

No doubt if you google it, there are plenty of fake stories deliberately put about to obfuscate the information.

But I'm very confident it's a well known secret in the world of art.

Millertime v1.7 · Post by **Millertime v1.7** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:56 pm

NRC wrote:so many questions here
- was it the original or a copy?
- if a copy is that fraud?
- was the auction house in on it?
- was the buyer in on it?
- if genuine, I assume that as title hadn't transferred then the buyer doesn't lose out, but does Banksy pay the commission to the auction House?
- does anyone actually know how the set-up worked?

Overthinking things much, bud? :rollseyes:
All very obvious no brainers to such an extent they barely qualify as questions.
"so many questions"

)
Mate...wake up and smell the coffee

)

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:56 pm

Rowls wrote:I believe it's well known in the art world though I have never cared to find out.

No doubt if you google it, there are plenty of fake stories deliberately put about to obfuscate the information.

But I'm very confident it's a well known secret in the world of art.

So, you don't know.

hawxi · Post by **hawxi** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:57 pm

The piece will be worth a great deal more now because of what happened.. shredded or not.

I’ve tried to reply as I see it in reply to your questions in the quote

NRC wrote:so many questions here
- was it the original or a copy? - original piece ( he can do as many as he wants so all original - and that’s part of the joke )
- if a copy is that fraud? N/A
- was the auction house in on it? Doubtful but not impossible.. I’d like to hope not or it defeats the object somewhat
- was the buyer in on it? I’m pretty sure the artist had it bid upnto the headline making Million it sold for
- if genuine, I assume that as title hadn't transferred then the buyer doesn't lose out, but does Banksy pay the commission to the auction House? See first point
- does anyone actually know how the set-up worked?all will probably be revealed over the coming days

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:58 pm

Robert del naja seems to be the more credible fit

hawxi · Post by **hawxi** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 3:59 pm

https://www.instagram.com/p/BomCg15FRBz ... 189cm5f84j" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 4:16 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:So, you don't know.

Turtle Holmes

Loyalclaret · Post by **Loyalclaret** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 5:58 pm

Sotheby’s auction house going since 1774 and people think they’ll be involved in a prank

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:08 pm

The aliens suspend judgement for the time being...

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Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:09 pm

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'The End' Mario Rossi

I'm surprised Banksy is actually still alive and the publicity officer for Sotherby's who organised it, to create 'Instant art world history.'

It's some silly corporate 'In Yer Face' we're the shits and we rule OK' world posturing, by parochial village idiot London, making prats of themselves along the way, under the auspices of 'Because we can,' like the silly theatre of the House of Commons, whilst the rest of the world tools up to stuff British industry.

I wonder what's going down at the Hull riverside now that the City of Culture bash has moved on. The people of Hull rimmed their own river sludge to suck up to London for an art show homage to vagrants and for folk to sing en masse 'Sweet Caroline' for Father Christmas to deliver a Banksy.

Meanwhile son of Luftwaffe on YouTube parades his 1966 Humber Imperial (mint.) Mmmmmmmmmm. Sweet.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:16 pm

Loyalclaret wrote:Sotheby’s auction house going since 1774 and people think they’ll be involved in a prank

We won't know for sure unless they own up.

But an art dealership, who go to extreme lengths to ensure authenticity (xray artwork, etc) who didn't notice an electrical shredder was inside the frame for the artwork?

I smell collusion here.

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:23 pm

It's cocking a snoop to the professionals, Schiele, Tracy and Bruce Inc. etc. In any other field, it wouldn't happen, but oil and canvas is oil and canvas, yeah and a watercolur is a watercolour, yeah Bob.

Imagine getting a 'street person' in the United team for example, or to attend the Royal College of Music, or maths at Oxford? The folk who run art schools now, come from the prison service and the students are out from wherever on license thanks to a well-meaning psychologist. I've had serious threats from maniacs whilst trying to study in art school for a PhD, on top of my health condition.

Banksy is not a 'street artist' anyway, it's a professional government agency, like Hancock in the late 50's, or Anthony Gormley and his simulacra of art.

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:37 pm

Just posted this on social media

https://twitter.com/FredrikoBandiko/sta ... 21568?s=19" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Loyalclaret · Post by **Loyalclaret** » Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:01 pm

Rowls wrote:We won't know for sure unless they own up.

But an art dealership, who go to extreme lengths to ensure authenticity (xray artwork, etc) who didn't notice an electrical shredder was inside the frame for the artwork?

I smell collusion here.

No collusion NO COLLUSION folks

I take your point, I assume they check work more closely if they can not prove provenance. Was it said he had provided some note to support authenticity.

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:13 pm

As a possible government agent, Banksy performs a function of bigging up the talent-less as part of a general policy intent on mob rule rather than a paid police force, perversely, for example the bigging up of West Ham as the geezers and the use of EastEnders to be the governments 'gang' in reply to those horrible mining striker northerners and the appointment of Emin as the queen of Art and as the Professor of Drawing at the R.A. for more Cockney story, how's yer father and my old man said follow the van.

He is also used to decry art, to keep the power of the visual in the hands of the media.

Banksy's picture of a girl with a balloon would ordinarily be worthless, it has no intrinsic value other than the media hype.

It's not uncommon for a 'buyer' to be in cahoots,to up the prices of the market for a particular individual.

The destruction of the art piece in the showroom, has no value at all regarding art history and is a media farce only, to get London on the map as a publicity stunt for the Frieze Art Fair this week.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:15 pm

I think pstotto is Banksy.

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:29 pm

I don't have the lack of talent, it's quite an art, you know.

Burnley Ace · Post by **Burnley Ace** » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:28 pm

It’s now called “Love is in the bin” and has been authenticated as a new official Banksywork of art and the new owner is gushing how she has a work of art created live blah di blah tells us enough about this whole sordid scenario

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:44 pm

Is this Banksy?

https://youtu.be/FwOvi1BMLdc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:30 am

The new owner can now tell all about it, at the pir-ates pilates class.

hawxi · Post by **hawxi** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 8:15 pm

Just bringing this back up to the top after todays amazing Auction result - Nearly £15 million sale proceeds being donated to NHS Supported Charities

£16.8 Million record result for the artist..

Not quite Captain Tom.. but continues to enhance his reputation as the Artist of this Era.

hawxi wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:05 pm
Absolute top class. A stroke of genius from an artist that will go down in history as time goes on..

He already is in many art circles - but remains an upstart in the eyes of many of the old school art establishments - with no recognised museum shows to date, other than ones he has organised himself.

He set the scene on this perfectly,has his most iconic image hanging in the auction room for over a week for viewing, highest profile auction at the week long start of Freize Art London, last lot of the auction, gets the piece bid up to a million pounds, had a dedication noted on the back of the piece that ads further to the 'joke' and pulls off the shredding to perfection..

Add this to the below list of thought provoking and subversive 'art' acts.. gotta love the guy!

Just a handful of the things he has done over the years

https://gizmodo.com/banksy-sold-225-000 ... 1444833251" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX54DIpacNE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; )

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/3201344.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW-rt3jyZU8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; )

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-44140200" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-mid ... -bethlehem" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesig ... youth-club" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dismaland" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2NG-MgHqEk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; )

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesig ... or-tribute" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:12 pm

He hits the right note often.

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:41 pm

'The thing about Banksy is that he's agent for change...'