3rd round draw, god forbid we get drawn against...

morpheus2 · Post by **morpheus2** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:54 am

...anybody at all.

Imagine if we were drawn against the likes of Blackburn or Leeds or Macclesfield, it doesn't bear thinking about.

Ugly ugly boring negative 'football', no heart, no passion.

Anyway, have a nice evening.

Now, back to my chocolate liqueurs.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:56 am

Might be the tonic we need. And the opportunity for Heaton or Pope.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:56 am

We did at least have hart.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:57 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Might be the tonic we need. And the opportunity for Heaton or Pope.

The time and subject....weird!

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:00 am

morpheus2 wrote:...anybody at all.

Imagine if we were drawn against the likes of Blackburn or Leeds or Macclesfield, it doesn't bear thinking about.

Ugly ugly boring negative 'football', no heart, no passion.

Anyway, have a nice evening.

Now, back to my chocolate liqueurs.

The one team I'd have no fear about facing is Rovers. Despite our recent exits against lower league teams SD knew the game against Rovers in the league cup last season was important and treated it as such. We subsequently wiped the floor with them.

I suspect if we gave an under par performance against Rovers he would realise that many more supporters would turn against him, possibly with no going back.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:02 am

Spijed wrote:The one team I'd have no fear about facing is Rovers. Despite our recent exits against lower league teams SD knew the game against Rovers in the league cup last season was important and treated it as such. We subsequently wiped the floor with them.

I suspect if we gave an under par performance against Rovers he would realise that many more supporters would turn against him, possibly with no going back.

Its nowhere near the magnitude of what Olympiakos was. Or what 38 premier league games are.

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:12 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Its nowhere near the magnitude of what Olympiakos was. Or what 38 premier league games are.

A 3rd round defeat to Blackburn would be far more fatal than Olympiakos or relegation. If we draw Blackburn and lose it's over for Dyche, and I say this as someone who totally 100% backs him right now. Pride matters more than what would otherwise be considered reasonable when you're losing week-in, week-out.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:18 am

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:18 am

Jesus, who gives a monkey's about who we draw in the cup? Don't you think we have rather more pressing problems?

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:19 am

Spiral wrote:A 3rd round defeat to Blackburn would be far more fatal than Olympiakos or relegation. If we draw Blackburn and lose it's over for Dyche, and I say this as someone who totally 100% backs him right now. Pride matters more than what could otherwise be considered reasonable when you're losing week-in, week-out.

A 3rd round fa cup game against blackburn is nowhere near as important as that olympiakos game was.

Its a one off game, against a team we are far superior too and have been for ten years in a cup the club amd most fans dont give a toss about.

Today was a bigger game than what that would be.

To say a defeat to blackburn in the cup would be more fatal than relegation is massively overegging it.

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:02 am

Mate, you're confusing consequence with tenability. I was talking about the fatality of Dyche's tenure, not BFC as a whole. An FA cup tie is, of course, inconsequential in the grand scheme and league standings obviously have greater consequence for the club, but if one were to be realistic about the nature of football fans a humiliating defeat to Blackburn in the midst of this almighty slump would be far more fatal to Dyche than Olympiakos (as evidenced by the support he had after the home game) - and I'd even say relegation. Honestly, an East Lancs derby is the last thing we need right now.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:07 am

We need to play the U23 team.At least we would see a bit of passion and a rare cup win

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:16 am

I'd probably rather draw someone like City again so it's not humiliating when we get the inevitable defeat. I wouldn't fancy us against a League 2 outfit at present.

diamondpocket · Post by **diamondpocket** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:23 am

when is the draw?

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:27 am

diamondpocket wrote:when is the draw?

Tomorrow night, 7.30 I think.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:31 am

Spiral wrote:Mate, you're confusing consequence with tenability. I was talking about the fatality of Dyche's tenure, not BFC as a whole. An FA cup tie is, of course, inconsequential in the grand scheme and league standings obviously have greater consequence for the club, but if one were to be realistic about the nature of football fans a humiliating defeat to Blackburn in the midst of this almighty slump would be far more fatal to Dyche than Olympiakos (as evidenced by the support he had after the home game) - and I'd even say relegation. Honestly, an East Lancs derby is the last thing we need right now.

We will have to agree to disagree.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:15 pm

All the snowflake fans will be crying “I don’t like being in the FA Cup....it’s scary....we should be concentrating on survival....this pressure is too hot....I’m melting!”

Time to man up! Bring them (anyone) on! We are Burnley!!

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:20 pm

I do hope we can have a decent run in the fa cup this season. If we draw a lower league side we need to adapt our style rather than set up like we do in the PL.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:43 pm

From a purely selfish reason away to some Club that's easy to get to from down here.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:44 pm

Wycombe away, anyone, that would be a test?

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:48 pm

Bradford away looks a decent draw. Short train journey with plenty of drinking places to make a day of it.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:59 pm

It'll be Luton Town away.

Winstonswhite · Post by **Winstonswhite** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:07 pm

Cheer up..We could win the FA cup and get relegated. Imagine that!

Guess what was Wigan fans’ favourite season? That’s right, 2013-14.

Hendrickxz · Post by **Hendrickxz** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:31 am

Stanley away anyone?

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:57 am

Definitely not Venkys. Losing to them would throw me off the edge.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:34 am

Hendrickxz wrote:Stanley away anyone?

We would get embarrassed at how good football they play on a budget less than we pay one player.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:35 am

Murger wrote:Definitely not Venkys. Losing to them would throw me off the edge.

Beating Blackburn would be the only certainty I think we could have in the cup. He knows he simply has to.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:38 am

One thing to bear in mind is that we will eventually lose to Rovers at some stage.

The funniest thing about beating them was their complete meltdown to something that can easily happen in a football match as they had convinced themselves that we'd never be better than them.

Lets not go down that route eh?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:40 am

I've just put the draw numbers up on an announcement - and I don't mind who we get but 100% don't want Blackburn.

WestMidsClaret · Post by **WestMidsClaret** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:40 am

Used to look forward to this. Was a big date in the calender when we were pap (we're pap in a different way nowadays ha) . Now I dread it. Doesn't matter whether its Man City or Macclesfield. Get beat by City and its a given, get beat by a Macclesfield and its embarressing. I'd like a cup run but let's face it we've been poor in the cups under Dyche. I just have no confidence in us in the cup games. Shame.

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:50 am

LoveCurryPies wrote:All the snowflake fans will be crying “I don’t like being in the FA Cup....it’s scary....we should be concentrating on survival....this pressure is too hot....I’m melting!”

Time to man up! Bring them (anyone) on! We are Burnley!!

You sound like the knight in Monty Python shouting 'come back and fight you coward' when he has no limbs left. I see you use that now common phrase snowflake, loved by all who have no argument.

It ios you who have to accept what is happening and stop the bravado.

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:53 am

Hendrickxz wrote:Stanley away anyone?

I'm glad you pointed out that possibility mate because I was just going to. Home or away it would definitely not be easy given the respective forms. Okay Stanley have slipped up in the last couple of games in the league but they have shown heart, skill and determination all season. I honestly wouldn't put money on us if we drew them.

WestMidsClaret · Post by **WestMidsClaret** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:06 am

I'd be backing Stanley anyway much better value in all sorts of aspects

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:14 am

houseboy wrote:You sound like the knight in Monty Python shouting 'come back and fight you coward' when he has no limbs left. I see you use that now common phrase snowflake, loved by all who have no argument.

It ios you who have to accept what is happening and stop the bravado.

I accept our poor situation however still believe in the manager. I’d sooner he figure out a better strategy and player selection and then move forward.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:19 am

Wouldn't fancy us against a League 2 outfit at the moment tbh.

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:30 am

Exeter v. Burnley

I don't want this, it's just a wild guess. I usually guess about 2 fixtures out of the hat. Not bad, all things considered.

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:50 am

When's the draw?

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:07 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:I accept our poor situation however still believe in the manager. I’d sooner he figure out a better strategy and player selection and then move forward.

True, but do you think he actually HAS a plan? I'm not so sure. I truly want him to continue for the time being as he has been fantastic for the club but there comes a time when questions have to be asked and I think that time is now. I have said many times give him till February when he has (hopefully) had some decent spending money off the board and a chance to bed them in and see what happens. I'm not into knee jerk reactions but if nothing has changed after the window by February then it will be clear that after two windows and 12 months that a constant downward spiral will be unnacceptable. We have been poor/awful for nearly a year now and that cannot continue. No-one can live on past glories, where does it end? Loyalty is all very well but if Dyche has somehow lost the plot then how long do we give him before we say sorry, enough is enough?

Improvement (majorly) by February or he should go. That would be fair.

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:31 pm

QUOTE

"FA Cup 2018/19 Prize Money Breakdown

ROUNDS WINNERS PRIZE MONEY
1st Preliminary Round184 clubs £1,500
2nd Preliminary Round160 £1,925
1st Qualifying Round 116 £3,000
2nd Qualifying Round 80 £4,500
3rd Qualifying Round 40 £7,500
4th Qualifying Round 32 £12,500
FA Cup – Round 1 40 £18,000
FA Cup – Round 2 20 £27,000
FA Cup – Round 3 32 £67,500
FA Cup – Round 4 16 £90,000
FA Cup – Round 5 8 £180,000
FA Cup – Round 6 4 £360,000
Semifinal Winners 1 £900,000
Semifinal Losers 1 £450,000
Runner-Ups 1 £900,000
Champions 1 £1,800,000

Television Fee For Every Live Match Broadcasted

ROUNDS
FA Cup – Round 1 £67,500 Replay £33,750
FA Cup – Round 2 £72,000 Replay £36,000
FA Cup – Round 3 £144,000 Replay£72,000
FA Cup – Round 4 £144,000 Replay £72,000
FA Cup – Round 5 £247,500 Replay £123,750
FA Cup – Round 6 £247,500 Replay £123,750

Gate Receipt Revenue Share:

English FA has installed a good system where both home and away teams for every tie of FA Cup get 45% of gate receipt revenue each. So if a lower league team hit a jackpot and they are drawn against a top premier league side away they make more money from that away game than their entire season (or in some cases several season).

Away teams have a right to 15% of home team's stadium capacity for its supporters and 15% of disabled allocated area seats too.

To satisfy FFP it's all about turnover - and this can be done by selling players, improved gate receipts or earning more in merchandise etc - so a decent Cup run can be crucial for some clubs ............ buying & trading wise too."

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:36 pm

Falcon wrote:When's the draw?

I believe it's today at 7.30pm.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:54 pm

At least it can’t be as bad as last years draw. Can it..

TsarBomba · Post by **TsarBomba** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:30 pm

On now.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:37 pm

Live video here on FA Cup's Facebook page if anyone interested: https://www.facebook.com/EmiratesFACup/ ... 166785733/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:50 pm

At home to Barnsley!

not waving · Post by **not waving** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:50 pm

Barnsley home

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:50 pm

Good draw.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:50 pm

That will confuse the beeb.

Winnable home tie. Cant ask for more than that.

taio · Post by **taio** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:50 pm

Home to Barnsley

That'll confuse

HunterST_BFC · Post by **HunterST_BFC** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:51 pm

Burnsley to win it

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:51 pm

The press are going to struggle with that one.