ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

[Bordeauxclaret]

We should of done a part ex deal

Can’t say I know anything about him.

[Bosscat]

Good luck to both lads ... Odobert should shine for Spuds ... Shame we didn't see more of Twine, but hey ho we do need to pare down our overloaded squad, so we expected sales.

I think we might see a few more and some incoming before September.

[AGENT_CLARET]

Can’t say I know anything about him.

Cracking up and coming player with a brilliant touch, I'm suprised he went for such a low fee

[FCBurnley]

3.5 if true for Twine is a good price

[Dark Cloud]

Just to prove that every silver lining has a cloud waiting inside it, I was proper chipper after Monday evening and genuinely bouyed up and looking forward to tomorrow and the season ahead. Then we lose Oderbert and I fear it's just the start!! Now I'm getting very jittery all of a sudden!

[AGENT_CLARET]

Just to prove that every silver lining has a cloud waiting inside it, I was proper chipper after Monday evening and genuinely bouyed up and looking forward to tomorrow and the season ahead. Then we lose Oderbert and I fear it's just the start!! Now I'm getting very jittery all of a sudden!

Give over

[mybloodisclaret]

Just to prove that every silver lining has a cloud waiting inside it, I was proper chipper after Monday evening and genuinely bouyed up and looking forward to tomorrow and the season ahead. Then we lose Oderbert and I fear it's just the start!! Now I'm getting very jittery all of a sudden!

Well if anyone knows owt about clouds??

Come on someone was going to say it

[Stonehouse]

Last season was in the PREMIER LEAGUE

Who else = Tresor

Can you imagine 1-0 up against Rovers and bringing Tresor on with 5 mins to go.

[Dark Cloud]

Give over

Well we all know it won't be the last outgoing and I'm not talking about the likes of Scott Twine. Clubs are queuing up to snatch our best players. With the team/squad which turned out Monday we'd probably win the league by Christmas, but we all know many won't be around come September. I HAD been hopeful, but I now fear the worst.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

Spurs are good at nicking our best players

Disappointing fee as his potential is massive. Will prove to be a steal for them this like Trippier.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

Very sad, obviously, but it's a position we can cover and hopefully helps balance the books a bit more.
Can anyone remind me what we paid for Odobert.


Good luck to the lad at Spurs, he hasn't been here long enough to cement himself into Claret folklore, but it will be interesting following his career.

£9m going up to £12m with addons springs to mind.

[RicardoMontalban]

Well we all know it won't be the last outgoing and I'm not talking about the likes of Scott Twine. Clubs are queuing up to snatch our best players. With the team/squad which turned out Monday we'd probably win the league by Christmas, but we all know many won't be around come September. I HAD been hopeful, but I now fear the worst.

Username nominative determinism in action.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

He’s better than that forest winger and he cost them £40m , they must have seen Pace is desperate for cash

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Couldn't have joined a worse team,Spurs a team going absolutely nowhere.

If he does well at Spurs, he will go on to a bigger club

[evensteadiereddie]

25 million is a pretty fair price.
We're not exactly mortally weakened by his departure.

[claretonthecoast1882]

25 million is a pretty fair price.
We're not exactly mortally weakened by his departure.

Agreed. Didn't want him to leave but I genuinely thought everyone would be ok with the deal we got. Seems not

[scouseclaret]

But to me that's worse.

ALK are a business that have come in and taken an opportunity to make money, Garlick and the previous board were meant to be fans. That's probably a very naive outlook, but I really struggle with the concept of our club being milked to line the pockets of people. I see it as a community asset that owners are custodians of. Some will say they've got every right to make money and it will make them more motivated to do well but it doesn't, and will never, sit right with me until that debt is repaid. Burnley FC are paying loans back that paid for ALK shares. Just think of what the club could have done with that money!

I understand I'm in the minority these days and more and more people are coming around to Pace being a top notch guy because he walks round the fan zone before games and he commissioned two TV series so fans could see how much he cared, but I just don't buy it.

I agree with most of this, but at least we know what these guys are. For me, the real betrayal was by two apparently lifelong Burnley fans hoarding money on the balance sheet to make the club more attractive to a buyer, when they could/should’ve been investing. (For me, 2018 was a massive - probably once in a lifetime - opportunity missed, when we could’ve have used the 7th place finish and a chance of European football as a lure for a better class of player.) instead, Garlick and John B allowed the club to stagnate while they looked for a buyer, and they knew exactly what the ALK business plan was when they sold it.

In the end, they damaged the club through underinvestment and walked away with £100m+ paid for by club cash and debt loaded on the club. Never quite understood why they have largely “got away with it” as far as their reputation amongst Burnley fans is concerned.

[Elbarad]

I can't think of any of our players other then Berge who I wouldn't be happy enough with getting 25m. I wish him luck.

[Foshiznik]

As much as I love Odobert, he plays in the one position where I think we can afford to lose a player if the money is right. We’ve doubled our money after a poor season for the club so it looks like good business. As long as it’s reinvested in the squad or paying off the debt then we should be content.

[ClaretPete001]

Gutted but not surprised I expected a few more big names to go.

The fee reported on Transfermarket is £25 million, which I think is most likely to be true. To put it into context we paid £18 million for Tresor.

It's a good fee and I guess we had to sell but it's very disappointing nonetheless. He is an exceptional talent and it is hard to see how Kompany didn't seem to see it for the first part of last season.

I'm going to quit now before I descend into churlish rancour.

[ClaretPete001]

As much as I love Odobert, he plays in the one position where I think we can afford to lose a player if the money is right. We’ve doubled our money after a poor season for the club so it looks like good business. As long as it’s reinvested in the squad or paying off the debt then we should be content.

If Berge goes how many real quality centre mids do we have with that kind of pace?

[Row x]

I agree with most of this, but at least we know what these guys are. For me, the real betrayal was by two apparently lifelong Burnley fans hoarding money on the balance sheet to make the club more attractive to a buyer, when they could/should’ve been investing. (For me, 2018 was a massive - probably once in a lifetime - opportunity missed, when we could’ve have used the 7th place finish and a chance of European football as a lure for a better class of player.) instead, Garlick and John B allowed the club to stagnate while they looked for a buyer, and they knew exactly what the ALK business plan was when they sold it.

In the end, they damaged the club through underinvestment and walked away with £100m+ paid for by club cash and debt loaded on the club. Never quite understood why they have largely “got away with it” as far as their reputation amongst Burnley fans is concerned.

That transfer window was a disgrace, if it was now this message board would be full of posts containing the words "bonkers" and "shambles"

[RVclaret]

Gutted but not surprised I expected a few more big names to go.

The fee reported on Transfermarket is £25 million, which I think is most likely to be true. To put it into context we paid £18 million for Tresor.

It's a good fee and I guess we had to sell but it's very disappointing nonetheless. He is an exceptional talent and it is hard to see how Kompany didn't seem to see it for the first part of last season.

I'm going to quit now before I descend into churlish rancour.

You and your numbers don’t half make me laugh. Stating for a fact (or at least ‘most likely to be true’) we received £25m because you read it on Transfermrkt (doesn’t mean zip but let’s go with it) while the next fact, according to you, is paying £18m for Tresor… while the same reliable source you’ve just used to work in a negative angle on things (by saying it’s 25 instead of 30 like most are reporting) says £15m (Athletic actually said £13m by the way).

[SonofPog]

Well, that came out of the blue, But a good profit for "The Model" and we're well stock in the wide areas. Be interesting to see how much game time he actually gets.

[fidelcastro]

You and your numbers don’t half make me laugh. Stating for a fact (or at least ‘most likely to be true’) we received £25m because you read it on Transfermrkt (doesn’t mean zip but let’s go with it) while the next fact, according to you, is paying £18m for Tresor… while the same reliable source you’ve just used to work in a negative angle on things (by saying it’s 25 instead of 30 like most are reporting) says £15m (Athletic actually said £13m by the way).

Describing him as an "exceptional talent" is a bit OTT too.

[Rowls]

Real shame.

This lad has all the attributes to potentially shine at international level. The sky's the limit for him.

Presumably we've made a profit on him and that's the ALK model but it's always disappointing to see exciting talent leave the club.

All the best to him in his future.

[ClaretPete001]

You and your numbers don’t half make me laugh. Stating for a fact (or at least ‘most likely to be true’) we received £25m because you read it on Transfermrkt (doesn’t mean zip but let’s go with it) while the next fact, according to you, is paying £18m for Tresor… while the same reliable source you’ve just used to work in a negative angle on things (by saying it’s 25 instead of 30 like most are reporting) says £15m (Athletic actually said £13m by the way).

Don't be silly prefacing something with most likely to be true and citing a source is not stating it as a fact.

As I've said before, I've checked the Transfermarket fees with the August signings cited in the post balance sheet events on our last set of accounts and they matched up quite well. You can do it because it is a raw figure. So, I generally quote Transfermarket as opposed to general media speculation.

You are a bit of a cry baby when it comes to the negative RV, which is fine but keep it to yourself or do what New Claret does and make a joke of it. I like jokes at my expense less keen on the cry baby comments!

[RVclaret]

Don't be silly prefacing something with most likely to be true and citing a source is not stating it as a fact.

As I've said before, I've checked the Transfermarket fees with the August signings cited in the post balance sheet events on our last set of accounts and they matched up quite well. You can do it because it is a raw figure. So, I generally quote Transfermarket as opposed to general media speculation.

You are a bit of a cry baby when it comes to the negative RV, which is fine but keep it to yourself or do what New Claret does and make a joke of it. I like jokes at my expense less keen on the cry baby comments!

I just find making up fees to distort reality and create a narrative a bit weird but hey ho.

[taio]

I just find making up fees to distort reality and create a narrative a bit weird but hey ho.

The base fee is being widely reported as £25m.

[bobinho]

Is it safe yet?

Bedwetting done??

Good.

Excellent fee. Good luck to him.

I suspect SP is likely to get some of that going forward, as opposed to our near neighbours using the massive fee from Sammies sale to service their debt….

Onwards and upwards. UTC

[morninbob]

The base fee is being widely reported as £25m.

It's a guaranteed 30m with 25m upfront.

[taio]

It's a guaranteed 30m with 25m upfront.

I've read differently

[RVclaret]

The base fee is being widely reported as £25m.

I’m talking about the ‘Tresor was £18m’ comment when his exact same source says it’s £15m.

But the £25m + £5m guaranteed add ons, well I’d take that as £30m we’ll be receiving.

[ClaretPete001]

I just find making up fees to distort reality and create a narrative a bit weird but hey ho.

What's weird about quoting Transfermarket as opposed to The Athletic FFS.

We've seen over and over again that once one media outlet picks up a story it is reported by all the others.

I've gone the effort of triangulating what is on Transfermarket with what is in our published accounts so I use that as a source to be as reliable as any other or more so.

No one on here is so stupid as to not know that contracts are very complex and likely as not all the reports are ball park. I always cite Transfermarket - it has nothing to do with negativity.

[taio]

I’m talking about the ‘Tresor was £18m’ comment when his exact same source says it’s £15m.

But the £25m + £5m guaranteed add ons, well I’d take that as £30m we’ll be receiving.

How are the add ons guaranteed?

[RVclaret]

What's weird about quoting Transfermarket as opposed to The Athletic FFS.

We've seen over and over again that once one media outlet picks up a story it is reported by all the others.

I've gone the effort of triangulating what is on Transfermarket with what is in our published accounts so I use that as a source to be as reliable as any other or more so.

No one on here is so stupid as to not know that contracts are very complex and likely as not all the reports are ball park. I always cite Transfermarket - it has nothing to do with negativity.

You stated we paid £18m for Tresor when Transfermrkt says £15m. Was it an error on your part?

[RVclaret]

How are the add ons guaranteed?

Probably be something like ‘when he plays 10 games’. I’m going off what Sacha, French media, LongsideClaret & TurfCast have said.

[Dark Cloud]

Losing Oderbert isn't terminal by any means, but we've another two weeks of transfer activities and after that it will have to be seen in the wider picture. IE. Is he our only "major" asset sold or is he just one of several? If (as I fear) other teams are more than just sniffing round our best players and O'Shea, Berge, Andoumi, Wout, Esteve, Brownhill, Ekdal, Koleosho, Trafford, Foster even, follow him out the door, we'll have shed loads of cash and a lower mid table team.

[Spijed]

Losing Oderbert isn't terminal by any means, but we've another two weeks of transfer activities and after that it will have to be seen in the wider picture. IE. Is he our only "major" asset sold or is he just one of several? If (as I fear) other teams are more than just sniffing round our best players and O'Shea, Berge, Andoumi, Wout, Esteve, Brownhill, Ekdal, Koleosho, Trafford, Foster even, follow him out the door, we'll have shed loads of cash and a lower mid table team.

Make no mistake, fail to get promoted and any profit we make on players will vanish very quickly.

[Burnley1989]

Losing Oderbert isn't terminal by any means, but we've another two weeks of transfer activities and after that it will have to be seen in the wider picture. IE. Is he our only "major" asset sold or is he just one of several? If (as I fear) other teams are more than just sniffing round our best players and O'Shea, Berge, Andoumi, Wout, Esteve, Brownhill, Ekdal, Koleosho, Trafford, Foster even, follow him out the door, we'll have shed loads of cash and a lower mid table team.

It's a huge IF

I'll bet you £500 to your chosen charity, we don't sell 10 players over the next 2 weeks

[Casper2]

25m plus 5m add on is 35m Euro so pretty accurate
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2 million is nothing

[Dark Cloud]

It's a huge IF

I'll bet you £500 to your chosen charity, we don't sell 10 players over the next 2 weeks

Tbf, I'm not a betting chap and actually I agree with you, we won't sell 10 players in the next two weeks. I wasn't suggesting everyone in that (not exhaustive by any means) list would be sold, but let's say we also lose O'Shea and Berge (both very likely it seems) and one other (Brownhill Koleosho, Esteve even?) we'll be struggling to recreate Monday's amazing show week in week out I fear.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

Can’t help but feel Pace snapped their hands off when the call came in. Totally out of the blue this one!

Hope Parker has a team left by the time the window shuts.

[claretskeith]

Hope Parker has a team left by the time the window shuts.

Could easily go from a top 2 cert, to a playoffs more realistic squad.

[Holtyclaret]

Well we all know it won't be the last outgoing and I'm not talking about the likes of Scott Twine. Clubs are queuing up to snatch our best players. With the team/squad which turned out Monday we'd probably win the league by Christmas, but we all know many won't be around come September. I HAD been hopeful, but I now fear the worst.

Give over

[kentonclaret]

For one or two of the players stepping out on the Turf tomorrow it may be their last hurrah in a Burnley shirt.

[ClaretPete001]

You stated we paid £18m for Tresor when Transfermrkt says £15m. Was it an error on your part?

It says Eur18 million...! So, yes I didn't do the conversion. I looked at the figure for Odobert and then used the one in memory for Tresor forgetting it was a Euro figure. Done it before will probably do it again.

So, to re-iterate we have got £25 million for Odobert but paid £15 million for Tresor. We've also spent money on Esteve and a couple others (see Tranfermarket).

So, if Odobert is the last to go the board has done very well to maintain the squad because we haven't recouped the kind of money we did last time.

Much better than I expected tbh.

[PWBFC]

Clearly he has real potential but the numbers are just too bad. Such a big sale must ease the financial pressures a lot, hopefully not too many more big players out the door.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

Is it £50m of sales needed ? We should be nearly there then.

Hope we keep hold of Berge or we have a definite replacement identified.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

It says Eur18 million...! So, yes I didn't do the conversion. I looked at the figure for Odobert and then used the one in memory for Tresor forgetting it was a Euro figure. Done it before will probably do it again.

So, to re-iterate we have got £25 million for Odobert but paid £15 million for Tresor. We've also spent money on Esteve and a couple others (see Tranfermarket).

So, if Odobert is the last to go the board has done very well to maintain the squad because we haven't recouped the kind of money we did last time.

Much better than I expected tbh.

Maybe the thinking is reintegrate Tresor and try to get at least the money back there. Daft purchase really.