Where will we finish ?

[bumba]

We’ve had easy fixtures so far and I think when teams realise they don’t need to fear us we’re in deep trouble of imploding. This league is proper shite too, an even lower standard than when we won the title.

If Parker stays 6th, if Kompany was here 1st.

The points the teams have at the top prove the league is actually more difficult this season.

If VK was here this club would be in deep sh1t

[alwaysaclaret]

We’ve had easy fixtures so far and I think when teams realise they don’t need to fear us we’re in deep trouble of imploding. This league is proper shite too, an even lower standard than when we won the title.

If Parker stays 6th, if Kompany was here 1st.

2 manager's that are literally like chalk and cheese, not disputing that perhaps vk could and would get us back up, but for what to end up doing the same thing as last season. However, if Parker carries on in the same vein regarding he's tactics and style I doubt we'll make the play offs, based on the fact "can't score" don't win games

[KRBFC]

The points the teams have at the top prove the league is actually more difficult this season.

If VK was here this club would be in deep sh1t

Talking absolute pony, like you’ve had a knock to the head and forgot what Vincent achieved at this level. Sure we struggled a level above but to try and downplay his ability at this level is just laughable.

[Jasper64]

On current form mid table 10th to 14th. If any player finds his scoring boots 5th, two or more finding there scoring boots 3rd. Then promotion via the playoffs

[bumba]

Talking absolute pony, like you’ve had a knock to the head and forgot what Vincent achieved at this level. Sure we struggled a level above but to try and downplay his ability at this level is just laughable.

He had one good season at this level with everything in his favour from the off.
This season was a complete different ball game.
Your downplaying Parkers ability at this level instantly yet he's done what VK did twice!

[HagridsHut]

Second.

This is a young team, inexperienced largely and also still gelling. Parker will get it right.

[KRBFC]

He had one good season at this level with everything in his favour from the off.
This season was a complete different ball game.
Your downplaying Parkers ability at this level instantly yet he's done what VK did twice!

Good? Just good yeah?

Everything in his favour from the off? Like what? 20 players walking out of the door?

Imagine claiming to be a Burnley fan yet downplaying that historic season in support of this utter shite

[Clive 1960]

As things are at the moment i would say know lower than 10th , if we get some decent players in January especially 1 or 2 striker's then might get in the play offs but a big if ...

[hoosier-daddy]

I disagree with people keep mentioning the first two games. There was so many games were we are having the ball and not getting hurt defensively one bit, your thinking just push the accelerator and have a go but they bloody don’t. Blackburn, Oxford , qpr to name a few we was in control practically the whole match just seems there to frightened to push it.

Agree. Parker must be worried about the counterpunch and that we aren't equipped to deal with teams running at us if we lose the ball too high up the field.

[willsclarets]

3rd or 4th. It depends a little bit on the striker situation (getting one in/Foster being fit), but with some players coming back and Parker having more time I think we'll win enough games to finish comfortably in the playoffs. Can't see a top 2 finish though tbh

[Elizabeth]

Firstly Sunderland, Leeds and Sheff Utd are not sides that have automatic promotion written all over them.
After that the question is, do we? The answer judged on early season performances is a resounding No!
We are a side though that has more points than those performances suggest we should have. That tells me there is something about the squad that will be get us very close to promotion. I can’t predict automatic just yet because while we play like a side that knows each other well there is still so much to be done offensively.
The rest is really about do you believe that will happen. If you don’t you will be a lot less optimistic of promotion. If you do there is no reason you shouldn’t be thinking promotion is definitely on , especially as the quality of all the sides in the division is not very good.

[Stockbrokerbelt]

Top 2.

[aggi]

It seems bad because the football has been pretty dire in the past few games.

But, even if you extrapolate the last 6 games form for all the teams we'd still be finishing in the top 6. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

[bumba]

Good? Just good yeah?

Everything in his favour from the off? Like what? 20 players walking out of the door?

Imagine claiming to be a Burnley fan yet downplaying that historic season in support of this utter shite

Yes everything in his favour, the squad had already departed that needed to go and he was left with a solid championship core that wanted to play for the club.
He then had an owner besotted with him that gave him everything he ever wanted.

What exactly went against him?

I'm not downplaying the achievement at all but your making a big statement about VK winning the league, Scott Parker has done it twice yet you want to down play his achievements and ignore the hand he's been dealt.

You really need to grow up.

[ClaretPete001]

If we had a striker who looks like he can score at this level then top 2. If we can keep Foster fit then top 4 and if we can't and don't buy or loan in January then top 6.

Possibly Hountndji, could be a variable and so could the returning injured.

One solution is to go 4-4-2 but I don't see Parker doing that and to some extent I don't think it's desirable longer term.

While Parker has been a little disappointing the fundamental issue is the quality of the squad particularly up front.

[ChorltonCharlie]

Yes everything in his favour, the squad had already departed that needed to go and he was left with a solid championship core that wanted to play for the club.
He then had an owner besotted with him that gave him everything he ever wanted.

What exactly went against him?

I'm not downplaying the achievement at all but your making a big statement about VK winning the league, Scott Parker has done it twice yet you want to down play his achievements and ignore the hand he's been dealt.

You really need to grow up.

The squad had already departed? Dwight McNeil left a day or two before the Huddersfield game. We started that first game with Costelloe and Bastien playing as wingers.

The obsession with comparing two years ago with this season has to stop though. Just concentrate on the quality parker has available to him in comparison to our rivals this season.

[Steve1956]

I know it’s all doom and gloom but what was the logic used to reach this prediction? By definition of ‘at this rate’ we’d finish on 81 points and they’d have 67.

A scenario that is getting closer by the day my logic to my prediction was on form not the silly stats you always seem to come up with.

[Woodleyclaret]

Ist we are going up beat Norwich get our stiker in January and we are sorted UTC Trust in SP .

[It Is What It Is]

3rd.
Promotion via play offs and get paid shedloads of £millions for it.
Then 25/26 .. become the whipping boys of the EPL and come straight back down again.

I'd settle for that every season, it keeps the club financially healthy and secure with maybe a couple of good cup runs.

[Commy]

Why do people keep going on about still gelling and young team. Sheff Utd have had a major overhaul as well and they don't seem to be having the same problems.

[ClaretPete001]

Why do people keep going on about still gelling and young team. Sheff Utd have had a major overhaul as well and they don't seem to be having the same problems.

I wouldn't pretend to know Sheff United' squad but I can say that they sold 5 players for a fee and we sold 11.

We've also had Eur 40 - Eur50 million quids worth of injured players.

And it's about what is left after the turmoil - you can't dump it all on a manager whose only been here since July..

[Vegas Claret]

Second.

This is a young team, inexperienced largely and also still gelling. Parker will get it right.

The biggest fallacy spouted is our team is 'young and inexperienced', bar a couple it's not.

[Newcastleclaret93]

The biggest fallacy spouted is our team is 'young and inexperienced', bar a couple it's not.

Statistically I believe it’s the second youngest in the league

[Vegas Claret]

Statistically I believe it’s the second youngest in the league

Aye, go look at their number of appearances, the majority are in the hundreds.

[RVclaret]

The squad had already departed? Dwight McNeil left a day or two before the Huddersfield game. We started that first game with Costelloe and Bastien playing as wingers.

The obsession with comparing two years ago with this season has to stop though. Just concentrate on the quality parker has available to him in comparison to our rivals this season.

Available squad quality has probably been about 3rd - 5th best in the league, so we are about where you’d expect based on that.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Aye, go look at their number of appearances, the majority are in the hundreds.

Pretty sure Sky put a stat up the other day that we have the third most premier league appearances but one of the least amount of professional appearances in the league

[FCBurnley]

I watched the Alan Pace q and a the other day on You Tube and was horrified when he said how impressed he was by our play so far this season. But I guess that would be like me analyzing NFL. He might be a good business man but he has no clue about football
My prediction is 8th unless we sign a top quality striker to play alongside a fully fit Foster ( which I don’t see happening )
Blackburn are currently 1 point behind us with level games. From what I have seen so far we could be in mid table by mid January

[Spijed]

From what I have seen so far we could be in mid table by mid January

Based on what?

What about our away form?

[FCBurnley]

Based on what?

What about our away form?

Based on our inability to beat poor teams at home which is vital Take a look at Sheff U and Leeds

[Dyched]

Let’s wait until these next 4 away games are over to see how good our away form is.

[Stonehouse]

I wouldn't pretend to know Sheff United' squad but I can say that they sold 5 players for a fee and we sold 11.

We've also had Eur 40 - Eur50 million quids worth of injured players.

And it's about what is left after the turmoil - you can't dump it all on a manager whose only been here since July..

Sorry where did you get the 40-50 mill Euros from?

[Mattster]

I'm not downplaying the achievement at all but your making a big statement about VK winning the league, Scott Parker has done it twice

Parker hasn't won the league once

[Foreverly Claret]

5th as we are .2nd. if we get an attack to match our excellent defence .

[IanMcL]

Currently we will finish at Turf Moor, however, it may be elsewhere, even Wembley.

[Anonymous Claret]

Sorry where did you get the 40-50 mill Euros from?

Not sure of the exact amounts but rough estimated fees for the following injured players are below.

Beyer 15 mill
Tresor 15 mill
Ramsey 15 mill
Foster 9 mill
Benson 4 mill
Delcroix 4 mill
Redmond was on a free but still has to be worth a few million also.

[Vegas Claret]

Pretty sure Sky put a stat up the other day that we have the third most premier league appearances but one of the least amount of professional appearances in the league

all on wiki, most of our team is comfortably experienced enough

[Stonehouse]

Not sure of the exact amounts but rough estimated fees for the following injured players are below.

Beyer 15 mill
Tresor 15 mill
Ramsey 15 mill
Foster 9 mill
Benson 4 mill
Delcroix 4 mill
Redmond was on a free but still has to be worth a few million also.

Agree with you on fees but it’s like saying Man U have Maguire on the bench and he’s worth 90 mill ,they may have paid £90 mill for him but they’re worth nowhere near that as Tresor ,Delcroix and Ramsey cost £34 mill but he’s worth nowhere we came to sell them we’d wouldn’t get £10 mill for the lot of them.

[morninbob]

Not sure of the exact amounts but rough estimated fees for the following injured players are below.

Beyer 15 mill
Tresor 15 mill
Ramsey 15 mill
Foster 9 mill
Benson 4 mill
Delcroix 4 mill
Redmond was on a free but still has to be worth a few million also.

All exaggerated by a couple of mill each.

[bfcjg]

Current projectory without a striker possibly outside the playoffs, with better striking options top.

[The Shire Claret]

1st

[Blyclaret]

Foster doing a good job. We will get promoted.

[Anonymous Claret]

All exaggerated by a couple of mill each.

Can you tell us what the actual fees were then, seeing as you seem more knowledgeable on the financial details of our transfers?

Not saying these are accurate but can you prove otherwise?

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jordan- ... ler/403898

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/burnl ... -comments/

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/aaron-r ... id/4252634

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/hannes- ... ler/338635

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/benson- ... ler/322702

The statement below is from Wikipedia so unsure of accuracy but at the time I remember hearing we paid 7 million Euros for Foster in January 2023. It wouldn't surprise me if we had to pay an add on after we were promoted.

'In January 2023, Foster signed for EFL Championship club Burnley on a four-and-a-half-year contract.[15] The transfer fee paid to Westerlo was reported as €7 million, a record for a South African player, which rose to €10 million after the Clarets guaranteed promotion to the Premier League.'

[ClaretPete001]

Not sure of the exact amounts but rough estimated fees for the following injured players are below.

Beyer 15 mill
Tresor 15 mill
Ramsey 15 mill
Foster 9 mill
Benson 4 mill
Delcroix 4 mill
Redmond was on a free but still has to be worth a few million also.

I think we could quibble here and there but yes easily Eur40 - Eur 50 million

[boatshed bill]

Play offs

[Newchurch Claret]

8th behind:

Sheff U
Leeds
Sunderland
Middlesborough
Watford
Blackburn
WBA

[firstclaret]

Squad that started season champions, squad now after unexplained player sales 7th.

[hoosier-daddy]

After more games since my last guess, I'll go:

Top 2 if we get the 1-2 players we need next month AND have a decent run of results between now and February

Top 6 as an ultra-pessimistic view, with nothing changing.

[Middle-agedClaret]

At our current respective trajectories - behind Rovers.

[Quicknick]

Top above Leeds.

[NottsClaret]

I think we’ll finish 7th. We’ve no fire in our belly, no goalscorers and other teams just want it more.