Euro 2024

[dannyonclarets]

Yes. Yes he can be dropped. Even Alan Shearer was commenting on him to stay up top.

Loved his commentary.

[gandhisflipflop]

And Southgate is a clown. Hanging on against serbia. Refused to bring foden central from the left and left TAA on for far too long.

[Rileybobs]

No, I think playing our best players, in the best form, in their preferred position is the way forward.

Novel, maybe, but I believe in it.

Fair to say that game suggests that TAA can’t play in that position against a mid-level side never mind a top one. Rethink needed going forward, either Mainoo, Wharton or Gallagher.

[boatshed bill]

Sick to the back teeth of Harry Kane.

He's still our best CF. Tactics leave him so isolated.
Did we stretch them on the left once in the whole game?

[Dyched]

Wins a win.

Favourites don’t always win and we know that more than most being Burnley fans. Far more successful nations have lost those types of games in recent international tournaments.

[Stayingup]

Garbage apart from Bellingham.

Southgate gone next month the main positive from tonight

Oh. I thought Pickford was superb.

[Darthlaw]

Anyway, let’s see how it plays out. Could go either way, but I suppose that contradicts the ‘Safegate’ nickname.

Thoughts Riley?

I think TAA had one decent break and set Walker away but didn’t offer his trademark set pieces or passing.

Experiment failed for me and time to give a genuine midfielder (even Gallagher) a shout, first.


EDIT - didn’t see you’d already responded

[dannyonclarets]

Fair to say that game suggests that TAA can’t play in that position against a mid-level side never mind a top one. Rethink needed going forward, either Mainoo, Wharton or Gallagher.

Eh? That game says he's fine against mid-level teams.

[quoonbeatz]

Wins a win. Be nice if they could cut out holding their heads/faces when they've not been touched anywhere near but I believe that's what they call game management these days.

Difficult call who's worse out of Guy Mowbray and Sam Matterface. Mad how both terrestrial channels roll out their worst commentators for big games.

[expoultryboy]

A wins a win . Come on Rory .

[Carlos the Great]

Spot on mate. Second half we sat back a bit but we won.

Sat back a bit ?? We got battered second half by Serbia .. they were very unlucky not to snatch a point there .. we won yes but make no mistake if we play like that we will be coming home very soon

[Murger]

If that’s what Foden is offering in an England shirt, it’s time to play Eze, Palmer or Gordon from the off.

[RVclaret]

He's still our best CF. Tactics leave him so isolated.
Did we stretch them on the left once in the whole game?

Nope and I’d commented about this pairing being a concern for this season a few weeks ago. Foden left tucking in works fine with an overlapping left back providing width and stretching play. Tripps was solid but offered nothing going forward and it leaves a very talented Foden a bit isolated. He’s at his best when he’s finding pockets inside and particularly for City this season on the inside right.

[NottsClaret]

Well at least we learned TAA isn’t a centre midfielder. Bellingham is unreal. Rice was very good 2nd half. Southgate is scared of everything about football.

[dannyonclarets]

If that’s what Foden is offering in an England shirt, it’s time to play Eze, Palmer or Gordon from the off.

Even though they offer completely different things,

Eze runs at defenders on the left.
Palmer is better on the right
Gordon is better playing wide-left but drifting in.

And after saying Foden is useless, you now say we should completely sack him off?

[Murger]

Even though they offer completely different things,

Eze runs at defenders on the left.
Palmer is better on the right
Gordon is better playing wide-left but drifting in.

And after saying Foden is useless, you now say we should completely sack him off?

He offers nothing in an England shirt.

[Darthlaw]

Eh? That game says he's fine against mid-level teams.

I do admire your commitment to the cause on all things England, Danny.

Reminds me a lot of a previous poster, whose name escapes me.

Fa… fact… Fra… Frank.

It’ll come back to me

[boatshed bill]

Nope and I’d commented about this pairing being a concern for this season a few weeks ago. Foden left tucking in works fine with an overlapping left back providing width and stretching play. Tripps was solid but offered nothing going forward and it leaves a very talented Foden a bit isolated. He’s at his best when he’s finding pockets inside and particularly for City this season on the inside right.

I don't think Foden has the ability at international level to impose himself on a game. It's all well and good being a luxury for league megastars like City.. but....

[bumba]

Stfu you know it all prick.

Ignore him mate Nori is back needs banning.......again

[bumba]

Eh? That game says he's fine against mid-level teams.

Shows your massive football knowledge if you think he was a success in there. Not good enough.

[quoonbeatz]

Bellingham is something else. A proper good lad as well.

[Jamesy]

Head it down FFS!!

Exactly this! He had all the time in the world to head that down. Poor.

[RVclaret]

I don't think Foden has the ability at international level to impose himself on a game. It's all well and good being a luxury for league megastars like City.. but....

International level is a lower standard than what he’s been playing with City though. I’d say it’s more, like I mentioned, a completely different role in a different system. The guy just won the PL POTY so I’m not sure how he was a ‘luxury’, he was their best player.

[Swizzlestick]

Thank Christ for Jude Bellingham - an absolute superstar and a winner.

Otherwise, very underwhelming. Trent has never seen a CM, hopefully that experiment has ended. No idea how Foden saw the full game.

Oh well - that’s the toughest team in the group out of the way and we can even try a couple of things now (Palmer, Eze, Wharton).

[Rileybobs]

Thoughts Riley?

I think TAA had one decent break and set Walker away but didn’t offer his trademark set pieces or passing.

Experiment failed for me and time to give a genuine midfielder (even Gallagher) a shout, first.


EDIT - didn’t see you’d already responded

Beat you to it.

Yes experiment failed. First half hour he was fine, which shows he’s an option when we are dominating the ball - perhaps chasing a lead. But Serbia were far too strong in the second half and we had no way to play through their press.

That is likely to be our toughest group game but I can’t see him starting in midfield again as we need to figure out an alternative and work on it in the next couple of games before we face some really tough tests.

[LeadBelly]

Played very decent first half hour and are top of the group currently so not at all a failure.
Still don't think the team has the belief of champions (Bellingham excepted) or that the manager reads the game well enough to make good subs at the right time.
Plenty of improvement needed but it might come.

[Taffy on the wing]

No, I think playing our best players, in the best form, in their preferred position is the way forward.

Novel, maybe, but I believe in it.

Don't be daft!.........that's to easy for Gareth.

[Rileybobs]

All the talk of Serbia dominating is a little OTT. They completely pegged us back into our own half but didn’t really threaten our goal and we had the best chance of the second half.

Concerning lack of control though but coming through a tough test like this may actually be more beneficial than a routine 2-0 win in the long term.

[jedi_master]

Word for Marc Guehi - very assured in what must have been a really stressful game for him.

Came across like a top bloke in his post match interview too.

[Jamesy]

Word for Marc Guehi - very assured in what must have been a really stressful game for him.

Came across like a top bloke in his post match interview too.

Yes, good interview. Decent lad.

[chekhov]

Difficult call who's worse out of Guy Mowbray and Sam Matterface. Mad how both terrestrial channels roll out their worst commentators for big games.

True. But most of the commentators are rather annoying. Best so far is as the female commentator this afternoon on Itv. Think it was the Poland Denmark game. For the other game I listened to the radio commentary, but to be honest I’d prefer no commentary at all.

[RVclaret]

In case you were all wondering, that game saw less xG created than any Premier League game last season (0.69).

[willsclarets]

It's nice to see the reactionary nonsense is still alive and well on this forum out of season

[Winstonswhite]

International level is a lower standard than what he’s been playing with City though. I’d say it’s more, like I mentioned, a completely different role in a different system. The guy just won the PL POTY so I’m not sure how he was a ‘luxury’, he was their best player.

Exactly. He’s playing out of position. For Man City he’s a round peg in a highly polished round hole.

Sometimes the best players have to be sacrificed for the good of the team.

[bfcjg]

I thought that was such a Burnleyesque Kompany Premier league performance, passing for the sake of passing, panicking and giving the ball away,little attacking flair ,caution, back to the keeper then an aimless punt forward,manager and players sussed out by the opposition.
Just hope the catering was better.

[Im_not_Robbie_Blake]

Serbia worked out how to stop Saka, who was our only real attacking danger. We had no attack from the left. Would have preferred to see Gordon on the left, as Foden isn't that kind of player.

[Poulton-le-Claret]

The tournament was really entertaining up until tonight. So tedious to watch.

[Pearcey]

Not convincing 2nd half but it’s 3 points and a clean sheet. That’ll do for me! Come on England!

[boatshed bill]

International level is a lower standard than what he’s been playing with City though. I’d say it’s more, like I mentioned, a completely different role in a different system. The guy just won the PL POTY so I’m not sure how he was a ‘luxury’, he was their best player.

Luxury in as much as his (undoubted) ability is accepted. He has the advantage with City of a virtual free role.
You may say that international football is a lower standard than EPL, but the demands of discipline and taking responsibility are higher (IMO)

[GetIntoEm]

If you're slagging England off for winning 1-0 you're an absolute cretin.

Can't believe people are so thick

[Murger]

If you're slagging England off for winning 1-0 you're an absolute cretin.

Can't believe people are so thick

Southgate has been in charge for 8 years, and yet nothing has changed. People are quite rightly annoyed because we have all this attacking talent, yet we play so defensively.

[GetIntoEm]

Southgate has been in charge for 8 years, and yet nothing has changed. People are quite rightly annoyed because we have all this attacking talent, yet we play so defensively.

What's not changed? We've gone from barely getting from a group stage to a group of likeable, young athletes that are making finals and semi finals. What's not changed?

[LincsWoldsClaret]

Impressed by Southgate tonight (for the first time) - he got his subs right (if a little late).

[Murger]

What's not changed? We've gone from barely getting from a group stage to a group of likeable, young athletes that are making finals and semi finals. What's not changed?

The negative football?

[Pickles]

Southgate has been in charge for 8 years, and yet nothing has changed. People are quite rightly annoyed because we have all this attacking talent, yet we play so defensively.

Nothing's changed? Remind me how many finals and semi-finals we'd been to before those eight years.

[GetIntoEm]

The negative football?

What negative football? You're just spouting buzz words.

We are one of the most feared teams in international football. You might be older than me but I don't remember a more exciting England side in the 40 years I've been watching them

[Sheedyclaret]

Judging by these comments you’d think we’d lost it’s tournament football just win which we did on to the next one

[BurnleyFC]

What negative football? You're just spouting buzz words.

We are one of the most feared teams in international football. You might be older than me but I don't remember a more exciting England side in the 40 years I've been watching them

We might be a feared team, but we aren’t exciting.

[Vegas Claret]

What negative football? You're just spouting buzz words.

We are one of the most feared teams in international football. You might be older than me but I don't remember a more exciting England side in the 40 years I've been watching them

literally every single pundit, every single ex pro says Southgate isn't brave enough and is too negative. I've genuinely not heard a single opposite view from any of them. Plenty of positives tonight, Guehi and Rice were superb but we are clearly having a problem putting it all together at the moment at the other end of the pitch. At 1-0 you do what Spain and Germany did and go an get the second, we just dropped off as we always do - it's a problem that Southgate needs to address but never does.

[LeadBelly]

I thought that was such a Burnleyesque Kompany Premier league performance, passing for the sake of passing, panicking and giving the ball away,little attacking flair ,caution, back to the keeper then an aimless punt forward,manager and players sussed out by the opposition.
Just hope the catering was better.

Just hope the catering was better.
No it was a lot wurst.