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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by GetIntoEm » Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:47 pm

alwaysaclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:45 pm
Quite correct, but the deeper issue is that the players 2nd and 3rd in line to those 4, have also left the club, or want out, in which case SP doesn't favour working with them. We're absolutely screwed, potentially don't see us being able to field a team come Saturday, it's kinda like there's a life threatening disease hit the club.
There surely can only be 1 explanation, ALK have to be cashing out, the only thing I don't understand is the Humphries deal.
selling assets with our supposed levels of debt wont make them any money should they want to sell the club, possibly be worth more with the bloated squad than without

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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by Row x » Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:47 pm

alwaysaclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:45 pm
Quite correct, but the deeper issue is that the players 2nd and 3rd in line to those 4, have also left the club, or want out, in which case SP doesn't favour working with them. We're absolutely screwed, potentially don't see us being able to field a team come Saturday, it's kinda like there's a life threatening disease hit the club.
There surely can only be 1 explanation, ALK have to be cashing out, the only thing I don't understand is the Humphries deal.
Best one yet.. Not being able to field a team on Saturday :lol: :lol:
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Post by warksclaret » Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:48 pm

I know people keep saying Parker cannot afford to quit as it would damage his CV and future prospects. But when you consider how hard he has probably worked to get to know the players and coaches and install his approach and culture, then this mass exodus may just be too much for him.Unless there is something I don't know. I fear for the Board at the home match on Sunday

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Post by Andreshotboots » Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:48 pm

Pace bares a lot of this weight on his shoulders allowing Kompany to almost being in an infinite amount of players that weren't required, but let's not exclude the players from any criticism here..I haven't seen too many of them being "forced out", and I've not heard too many saying they want to stay and help us get back up..

If the rumours are true and they have had a relegation pay cut, their weekly wage will be at the forefront of many of their desires to move rather than for footballng reasons.

Good riddance to them I say, yes it's been a horrendous 2 weeks, but as hard as it is I'm prepared to wait and see who we've got in the building on Friday night before being totally dejected with it all.

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Post by Miguel » Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:49 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:30 pm
I don’t particularly like the ownership but even I can see that there has to be something else going on here, the owners in no way are just thinking let’s sell everyone who makes us a profit.

I have a friend who’s family member works at the training ground (I won’t say their role) but they have said the amount of players who have been pushing for moves is like nothing he’s ever seen before

Why would the owners sell everyone knowing they need replacing
Exactly this. The way it was put to me is that numerous players have acted like spoilt little children demanding a move. It hasn't been pleasant for anyone within the squad/club to witness and deal with.

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Post by Ziggy Stardust » Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:49 pm

Surprised we haven't seen the free agent list posted yet...

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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:50 pm

Goody1975 wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:29 pm
Saturday will be a sliding doors moment, the problem is the door is over a fifty foot drop.

Lose at the weekend and it's a spiral that'll be difficult to get out of, the whole of the ALK tenure could rest on these next five days.

Good luck Alan.
I’m not one for hyperbole but this feels correct. A big “sliding doors” week. What is vital is not allowing the fans to turn (something ALK will never have experienced). But…….they may still manage to turn the ship around, with Parker’s help and the transfer team.

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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by criminalclaret » Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:50 pm

Commy wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:15 pm
Wonder if anyone from the board actually got the players in a room and asked them for one season to try to get promotion. It feels like they have just bowed down to demands without actually trying to get them to stay.
It's called a "relegation clause"

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Post by kentonclaret » Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:50 pm

Who was actually in this key core of players that we were supposedly going to build a team around and are any of them still at the club (for now at least)?

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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by Tricky Trevor » Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:51 pm

GetIntoEm wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:44 pm
amdouni is a premier league standard player, a blindman on a galloping horse can see that. rather than encouraging and supporting we chose to insult and degrade. reap what you sow.
Rubbish. He has a great first touch, a trick or two to beat his first challenge and then nothing. Bang average. I don’t blame any of the players for Saturdays performance, after the week they’d endured, but he was as poor as all the rest.

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Post by ecc » Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:52 pm

burnleymik wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:43 pm
Anyone with quality has been moved on.

Muric, Amdouni, OShea, Odobert, Tresor(whether you like him or not), Berge.

Koleosho, Trafford and Weghorst likely to follow.

Then add in Twine, Zaroury, AAD etc.

It's just too much and too quickly. Parker is going to have a nightmare on his hands trying to clear up this absolute mess and trying to get a cohesive, functioning squad again. The board have made an absolute shambles of this.

Estève is still here. Both Josh C and B are here. Foster is still here. Beyer and Ekdal will be fine in this league when they return.

Weghorst will be gone as will Benson because they don't want to stay.

We desperately need to keep Koleosho.
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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by Tricky Trevor » Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:54 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:48 pm
I fear for the Board at the home match on Sunday
Any negativity, pre-kick off, on Saturday just plays into Basturds hands. The whole ground has to get behind the X1 wearing Claret.
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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by alwaysaclaret » Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:54 pm

Row x wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:47 pm
Best one yet.. Not being able to field a team on Saturday :lol: :lol:
Yep, thought you might like that one.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:54 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:46 pm
"Hi Zeki, you were happy to sign a * year contract, we want to be back in the Premier League next season and see you as a key player for us. If we're a way off, then in January we will sort you a move, no problem. Get up, have another crack at it, perform well and you'll get an even better move."
If only it was as simple as that, it’s clearly not that simple
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Post by burnley007 » Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:54 pm

Commy wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:33 pm
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fc-burn ... on_id/2024

Transfer ins and outs showing 47.93 Eruo profit, without Al-Dakhil. It will cost more to replace them like for like.
That incomings figure is hugely distorted by completing signings from last season.

We've spent bugger all this season. Hountondji is the biggest signing, which says everything!

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Post by KRBFC » Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:55 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:51 pm
Rubbish. He has a great first touch, a trick or two to beat his first challenge and then nothing. Bang average. I don’t blame any of the players for Saturdays performance, after the week they’d endured, but he was as poor as all the rest.
Utter ******** and just you pushing this anti Amdouni bs. He was head and shoulders our best player when he came on at the weekend, strolled around like the best player on the pitch, swagger as the kids would say.

There’s a reason he’s going Benfica and the fans favourite Foster is stuck on this sinking heap of shite of a ship.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:55 pm

LongsideClaret wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:19 pm
Sounds like it’s gunna take an awful lot more than 3.
Tbf we needed more than 3 before the latest batch of outgoing rumours

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:56 pm

I’m glad we are shipping out players who have no interest in playing for the club. You’d think out of a purely professional point one or two of them would want to try and make amends for the drivel they served us up last season.

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Post by GetIntoEm » Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:56 pm

You need to remember these young lads were being paid peanuts on their contracts compared to most premier league players. They've had a taste of top level, and clearly want to get paid better
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Post by CoolClaret » Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:57 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:54 pm
If only it was as simple as that, it’s clearly not that simple
We are possibly the only team that I've ever heard of that is going to effectively have sold all of their marquee signings from the year prior.

It's a lot simpler than you are suggesting and if it isn't, it's because of other factors at play.

For the 100th time, he was quite happy to come on against Cardiff and Sunderland, and to be fair to him, put a real shift in.

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Post by claretskeith » Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:58 pm

PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:15 pm
Amdouni was always going to go. Hopefully this means Kolo stays.
If we get the right offer, he is also off.

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Post by BleedingClaret » Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:58 pm

Row x wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:47 pm
Best one yet.. Not being able to field a team on Saturday :lol: :lol:
Hey Mr joined this board July 15 2024
Why do you keep trying to ridicule people making posts with genuine concerns
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Post by jedi_master » Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:58 pm

I suppose one thing that is crystallising from this is an understanding of why last seasons team showed such a lack of fight, passion and desire to stay up. Why their heads buckled the second they went a goal behind and why they generally looked, to a man, like they didn’t give much of a **** whether Burnley got relegated or not.

They knew they’d be leaving anyway.
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Post by BurnleyFC » Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:59 pm

I mentioned it earlier.

The only explanation is that Alan is like a jilted lover and wants rid of every memory of Vinny, including all of his signings.

There’s a few to go yet!

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Post by ervi34 » Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:01 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:56 pm
I’m glad we are shipping out players who have no interest in playing for the club. You’d think out of a purely professional point one or two of them would want to try and make amends for the drivel they served us up last season.
I think some people still don't understand the difference between wanting to play at higher level and refusing to play for Burnley. Probably every player we have (excluding veterans like Rodriguez) most likely want to play for better club, in better division and for more money.

But Amdouni didn't refuse to play for us. Neither have Trafford or Koleosho.

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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by Row x » Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:01 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:48 pm
I know people keep saying Parker cannot afford to quit as it would damage his CV and future prospects. But when you consider how hard he has probably worked to get to know the players and coaches and install his approach and culture, then this mass exodus may just be too much for him.Unless there is something I don't know. I fear for the Board at the home match on Sunday
He will know what could have happened before he signed

He's been in football a long time

He knew the size of the squad, and would know it had to be trimmed considerably

He would also know that upon relegation your better players will want to leave

I haven't seen anything that would have come as a surprise to him

The problem will be if he isn't allowed to replace some of those sold, and as yet there is no evidence that he's being denied that

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Post by Andreshotboots » Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:01 pm

4 clubs entering the Brownhill race now..bye Josh it is then FFS..

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Post by LDNBFC87 » Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:02 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:59 pm
I mentioned it earlier.

The only explanation is that Alan is like a jilted lover and wants rid of every memory of Vinny, including all of his signings.

There’s a few to go yet!
"the only explanation"
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Post by Rick_Muller » Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:02 pm

Ziggy Stardust wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:49 pm
Surprised we haven't seen the free agent list posted yet...
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/statist ... osespieler

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Post by jedi_master » Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:03 pm

Andreshotboots wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:01 pm
4 clubs entering the Brownhill race now..bye Josh it is then FFS..
This is the only sale that sort of makes sense due to his contract - but it needs to be for decent money and we have to get Billing in to replace. A terrible time to sell him though considering the dismantling Pace has already done.
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Post by Rick_Muller » Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:03 pm

Andreshotboots wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:01 pm
4 clubs entering the Brownhill race now..bye Josh it is then FFS..
which 4 clubs?

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Post by claretskeith » Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:03 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:59 pm
I mentioned it earlier.

The only explanation is that Alan is like a jilted lover and wants rid of every memory of Vinny, including all of his signings.

There’s a few to go yet!
Koleo 100% off when the bid is increased.

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Post by alwaysaclaret » Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:04 pm

BleedingClaret wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:58 pm
Hey Mr joined this board July 15 2024
Why do you keep trying to ridicule people making posts with genuine concerns
Apparently we had a squad of 37 as the window opened, think we're now looking at around 16 out's, that's 21 left in my book approx, if you consider their's still 2 or 3 other's don't want to be here, and add on the long term injuries may be he row x should do he's maths.

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Post by alwaysaclaret » Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:06 pm

claretskeith wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:58 pm
If we get the right offer, he is also off.
And Brownhill I'd expect.

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Post by BigChaCha » Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:06 pm

by criminalclaret » Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:50 pm

It's called a "relegation clause"
There's a huge difference between a relegation clause and a relegation release clause!...

Name one player we have sold this summer that was triggered by an amount set in a relegation release clause?

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Post by dermotdermot » Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:06 pm

We still haven’t actually signed anyone yet and, at this rate, I don’t think we will. This unprecedented saga will go down in history as a comparable event to the sinking of the Titanic. It’s bye bye Burnley.

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Post by GetIntoEm » Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:07 pm

Parker certainly knew the plan, he's hardly going to come out and say he's ecstatic about it. It wont be a surprise for him, and will certainly have his own shopping list.

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Post by CoolClaret » Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:08 pm

Parker must be f*cked off.

He just gave Brownhill the armband like - not having that this level of turnover was ever part of 'the plan'. It's unprecedented!

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Post by GetIntoEm » Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:08 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:06 pm
We still haven’t actually signed anyone yet and, at this rate, I don’t think we will. This unprecedented saga will go down in history as a comparable event to the sinking of the Titanic. It’s bye bye Burnley.
why do you think we wont sign anyone? not being a bit melodramatic?

no team for Saturday is hilarious

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Post by BurnleyFC » Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:09 pm

GetIntoEm wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:07 pm
Parker certainly knew the plan, he's hardly going to come out and say he's ecstatic about it. It wont be a surprise for him, and will certainly have his own shopping list.
He’ll have to rush around like a lunatic on Supermarket Sweep at this rate then.
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Post by criminalclaret » Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:09 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:28 pm
Those saying players just wouldn't play in the Championship, why did most of Leeds squad remain intact last year? They had the same profile of player and most stayed. Clearly this is wanted by the board.
You are completely wrong there. They had 25 departures regards to their relegation. I posted the link in the other thread.

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Post by Row x » Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:10 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:06 pm
We still haven’t actually signed anyone yet and, at this rate, I don’t think we will. This unprecedented saga will go down in history as a comparable event to the sinking of the Titanic. It’s bye bye Burnley.
Worrall?

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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:10 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:06 pm
We still haven’t actually signed anyone yet and, at this rate, I don’t think we will. This unprecedented saga will go down in history as a comparable event to the sinking of the Titanic. It’s bye bye Burnley.
Yes we have.

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Post by DCWat » Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:10 pm

GetIntoEm wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:07 pm
Parker certainly knew the plan, he's hardly going to come out and say he's ecstatic about it. It wont be a surprise for him, and will certainly have his own shopping list.
Aye, probably a Tesco shopping list, but we’ll be getting alternatives from the Polski sklep, hoping that they taste just as good.

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Post by claretskeith » Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:11 pm

I heard we had 3 medicals. Has this now suddenly vanished?

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Post by BurnleyFC » Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:11 pm

DCWat wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:10 pm
Aye, probably a Tesco shopping list, but we’ll be getting alternatives from the Polski sklep, hoping that they taste just as good.
:lol:

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Post by AfloatinClaret » Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:12 pm

Goody1975 wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:29 pm
Saturday will be a sliding doors moment...

Lose at the weekend and it's a spiral that'll be difficult to get out of, the whole of the ALK tenure could rest on these next five days.
I'm as keen as anyone for us to win on Saturday, but I still think that the remaining 42 games combined, might have slightly more bearing on our promotion chances than just that one.

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Post by warksclaret » Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:12 pm

Row x wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:01 pm
He will know what could have happened before he signed

He's been in football a long time

He knew the size of the squad, and would know it had to be trimmed considerably

He would also know that upon relegation your better players will want to leave

I haven't seen anything that would have come as a surprise to him

The problem will be if he isn't allowed to replace some of those sold, and as yet there is no evidence that he's being denied that
I follow all that, but I am guessing he did not anticipate the volume of departures would be of this scale

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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by criminalclaret » Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:12 pm

BigChaCha wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:06 pm
There's a huge difference between a relegation clause and a relegation release clause!...

Name one player we have sold this summer that was triggered by an amount set in a relegation release clause?
Who said anything about an set amount?

A lot of these players will have clauses such as "if we get relegated, my agent has the ability to talk on my behalf to that club" or words to that affect.

That's how we will entice them here in the first place, making it attractive to leave and not be hunkered in on a 5 year deal.

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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by bfcmik » Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:12 pm

alwaysaclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:04 pm
Apparently we had a squad of 37 as the window opened, think we're now looking at around 16 out's, that's 21 left in my book approx, if you consider their's still 2 or 3 other's don't want to be here, and add on the long term injuries may be he row x should do he's maths.
Except that you have to add Worrall, Hannibal (reported as having signed a permanent deal today), Humphries, and possibly the other 2 who were reported as having medicals yesterday, which takes it back up to 25

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