Burnley v Swansea MATCH Thread

[Row x]

Harsh on Swansea but justice for us for the wrong of Thursday night

We're shoite though.

It wasn't

And we're not

Other than that, great post

[RVclaret]

That’s the point, Parker will never play that team. I hope I’m wrong.

We got lucky with a penalty, it just papers over pretty obvious cracks.

I think he will play that team if they are both fit. The cracks are that we have no decent striker.

[Shaggy]

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[warksclaret]

Nothing will make up for WBA and it was a pen, not an error.

It was a pen alright, but with no VAR it might not have been given. Have seen more blatant pens not given in my lifetime

[Burnley1989]

9 clean sheets in 15 is fantastic, if you stop the other team scoring like that, you'll win more than you lose

[timshorts]

By the time we are next at the Turf, it will be 2 months since we last conceded.

[Tricky Trevor]

Finally Humphries played like a FB and he looked so much better.
Egan-Riley is imperious at the back.
The Koleosho, Anthony, Sarmiento triumvirate has to be sorted. Sarmiento is a wide right so start him there. Koleosho is our best left and Anthony shows flashes of being a player so put him in the hole until January or bring Hannibal back in there.
Yet again our back 5 are superb, Midfield is adequate but attackers are way of the level required. We all know it has been forced on SP by circumstances so give him some slack until February.
My biggest regret is letting Obafemi out on loan not knowing what was to follow.
I’d recall Costelloe before I played Agyei again, he is way off at the moment.
Happy with the 3 points.

[xxmunkyennuixx]

We need to get two up top, Flemming and one other. Swap Cullen for Hannibal. Sick of the backwards ****. The walking pace football needs to get in the ******* bin.

[Longsider]

Well done Burnley. 3 points in the bag. A late goal was never on doubt, I said to my wife I'll go and put the chicken in the oven and wat h Burnley score. Bingo. UTC

[Commy]

Finally Humphries played like a FB and he looked so much better.
Egan-Riley is imperious at the back.
The Koleosho, Anthony, Sarmiento triumvirate has to be sorted. Sarmiento is a wide right so start him there. Koleosho is our best left and Anthony shows flashes of being a player so put him in the hole until January or bring Hannibal back in there.
Yet again our back 5 are superb, Midfield is adequate but attackers are way of the level required. We all know it has been forced on SP by circumstances so give him some slack until February.
My biggest regret is letting Obafemi out on loan not knowing what was to follow.
I’d recall Costelloe before I played Agyei again, he is way off at the moment.
Happy with the 3 points.

Sarmiento was, apparently, recalled from West Brom last season because they weren't playing him as a number 10, and both he and Brighton weren't happy about it.

[1968claret]

If they are posting on here, fortunately they're not at the game

Oh I don't know. There were a few sat behind me. On the players backs from the first minute. Koleosho and Anthony were their targets. If they passed back or sideways they got grief, if they tried to take a player on and didn't get passed their man, they got grief.

Was embarrassing.

[Tricky Trevor]

Sarmiento was, apparently, recalled from West Brom last season because they weren't playing him as a number 10, and both he and Brighton weren't happy about it.

I’d heard 10 was his preferred position but hadn’t heard that.
In his early season appearance for BHA he played 7 first half and was average, 10 second half and was excellent with a goal.
Something has to be done.
Koleosho was a lot better today and folk are forgetting he is only 13 games back from 11 months out. Hopefully he’ll get it back.

[OakSmokedClaret]

What I mean, is that we are playing the wrong tactics (offensively) and the wrong players in the wrong positions.

I don’t think it’s as simple as a strong striker although I agree we need one.

We play facing the opposition pretty much all the time, we have midfielders who don’t play any through balls and wingers and attackers who don’t run beyond enough.

I feel we have the personnel to do it, but the set up, players picked and perhaps instruction to play less through, to me, is what is the issue.

Just my opinion, I’m pretty smart mind

[OakSmokedClaret]

Although my grammar on a phone, is not so smart

[Stonehouse]

Thought Anthony was much better on the right which makes it even stranger that SP’s been playing on the left .

[dougcollins]

I wouldn’t be overly bothered if I didn’t see Anthony or Sarmiento again.

There’s a reason they’re out on loan.

[Row x]

I wouldn’t be overly bothered if I didn’t see Anthony or Sarmiento again.

There’s a reason they’re out on loan.

So who would replace them?

[taio]

I wouldn’t be overly bothered if I didn’t see Anthony or Sarmiento again.

There’s a reason they’re out on loan.

I thought Sarmiento looked promising and I'm looking forward to seeing him play more.

[RVclaret]

I thought Sarmiento looked promising and I'm looking forward to seeing him play more.

Me too.

[KlyBfc]

We need to get two up top, Flemming and one other. Swap Cullen for Hannibal. Sick of the backwards ****. The walking pace football needs to get in the ******* bin.

I missed todays game to do something with my family instead and only caught the last 5mins on the radio driving home. But Steve Thompson was critical of Parker for not playing 2 up and or changing formations, just rinse and repeating the 4-3-3 / 4-5-1 each week. It’s baffling to many and why i dont believe a new striker solves anything, we don’t have anywhere near enough to buy one who could score goals in this team playing like Parker ball.

[hoosier-daddy]

Sarmiento played well and I thought was one of our best players against WBA.

[dougcollins]

For a start, we need to play Fleming as a 10.

Put in whatever striker is available.

Pick any winger for Anthony. He has no desire, a long time since I’ve seen a Claret jump out of so many challenges.

[Commy]

He won't play more attacking as he is scared of conceding. Maybe someone has told him about how many losses we have had in the past few seasons in this division .

[123EasyasBFC]

Ageyi looked more of a winger then both Anthony and koleosho today, might be worth giving him the start we we don’t get players back fit.

Hannibal came on and got us up the pitch so much quicker

[Goalposts]

Best get out of jail card since monopoly was invented…

Either were not coaching koelsho or he’s brain dead..
We are unbeatable in playing balls sideways to players in space or backwards and appalling at playing a creative ball through into areas we should be attacking.. the last six games demonstrate that attacking players are not progressing. With the exception maybe of sarmiento. Defencively sound cannot complain about the clean sheets and defensive set up.. but creatively we are devoid of a plan..

Cant see what VK saw in Enoch. He’s young but has offered nothing in his cameos.. Zian as a no9 is not fair on the lad. And when your thinking foster is the answer. .. well were not understanding the issue .. a wins a win but in truth what i have seen this year . In a very average championship.. were playoffs at best.. their is no magic man. ( Benson - tella ). No assists man (maatsen , zaroury , JBG , tella, benson )

Not sure a lot of blame can be placed on Parker as how many players did he actually bring in..

Going to be a frustrating season.. and can see Estéve leaving in Jan to bring funds in for 2 forwards at leases. .. so basically need to try to stay in touch till Jan and then see if we can bring some magic in..

[Swizzlestick]

I actually thought Agyei looked lively when he came on. Bit raw, but carried a threat.

[dvalley69]

Ageyi looked more of a winger then both Anthony and koleosho today, might be worth giving him the start we we don’t get players back fit.

Hannibal came on and got us up the pitch so much quicker

You are seriously having a laugh about Agyei, right?

[123EasyasBFC]

Had Anthony scored the open goal last kick at hull and hadn’t had his header disallowed on Thursday then we would be level on points with the top 2.

Desperately need some more attacking options around the squad come the next game

[GetIntoEm]

We don't play kick and rush football, very few teams do.

It's about momentum and keeping possession. If there's not a forward pass on, you go sideways or back to open up space. That's football. It might not be to your liking, but that's the way the game has gone.

[jedi_master]

We need to move heaven and earth for a striker in January. I really hope the club has funds for that.

[Row x]

Ageyi looked more of a winger then both Anthony and koleosho today, might be worth giving him the start we we don’t get players back fit.

Hannibal came on and got us up the pitch so much quicker

I agree about Hannibal

But you're taking the p*** about Enoch.

[Row x]

For a start, we need to play Fleming as a 10.

Put in whatever striker is available.

Pick any winger for Anthony. He has no desire, a long time since I’ve seen a Claret jump out of so many challenges.

Asked once, but you didn't reply

You want Anthony and Sarmiento dropping....but for who?

[Burnley1989]

To say our footballs so bad, I'm amazed I've not seen what I would consider a better side yet this season....

[willsclarets]

To say our footballs so bad, I'm amazed I've not seen what I would consider a better side yet this season....

Only time I've felt that was leeds away, and we won!

[GetIntoEm]

I agree about Hannibal

But you're taking the p*** about Enoch.

I've seen all his appearances live so far and I'm yet to see anything that would make me want him in the starting line up. He's clearly not ready for the first team starting line up

[warksclaret]

We need Foster and Tresor playing again asap, so we dont need to bring the young and inexperienced Agyei on in pressure games. This cloak and dagger stuff with Tresor has to be sorted too. Parker said he was in full training with the group about 6 weeks ago. By contrast Odogaad of Arsenal has been out since August, was on the grass training last Monday and is featuring now v Chelsea

[123EasyasBFC]

I agree about Hannibal

But you're taking the p*** about Enoch.

Koleosho doesn’t look like a footballer at all, literally runs in a straight line, can pass the ball, can’t cross the ball.

Anthony doesn’t like like he’s ever in control of what he’s doing.

Ageyi is raw but looks miles more composed and have more natural technical ability

[Commy]

To say our footballs so bad, I'm amazed I've not seen what I would consider a better side yet this season....

I think it has more to do with the tempo we play at. I thought we played well today but it is boring to watch. We had a higher tempo on Thursday and it was much better to watch. The higher the tempo the more you can move people round so find more spaces. We seem to allow the opposition time to get into shape.

[Row x]

Koleosho doesn’t look like a footballer at all, literally runs in a straight line, can pass the ball, can’t cross the ball.

Anthony doesn’t like like he’s ever in control of what he’s doing.

Ageyi is raw but looks miles more composed and have more natural technical ability

I honestly cannot think of one good thing Ageyi has done, whereas the other two have actually won us games this season.
For me to be critical of any Burnley player, it must be bad, it's not in my nature

[RVclaret]

I think it has more to do with the tempo we play at. I thought we played well today but it is boring to watch. We had a higher tempo on Thursday and it was much better to watch. The higher the tempo the more you can move people round so find more spaces. We seem to allow the opposition time to get into shape.

The tempo was generally pretty decent today I felt. Mixed passing ranges. Certainly much faster than 5 games ago for example.

[BleedingClaret]

We don't play kick and rush football, very few teams do.

It's about momentum and keeping possession. If there's not a forward pass on, you go sideways or back to open up space. That's football. It might not be to your liking, but that's the way the game has gone.

We don’t play forward balls even when one is on

Then forwards stop making runs

Then there is no forward ball on

So we justify passing sidewards and backwards

Self fulfilling prophecy

[GetIntoEm]

We don’t play forward balls even when one is on

Then forwards stop making runs

Then there is no forward ball on

So we justify passing sidewards and backwards

Self fulfilling prophecy

I didn't see that today, percentages say you don't try and hoof a 50 yard pass to koleosho who's screaming for it. Altho our CJ played some class long balls today.

[CoolClaret]

I've noticed the boo boys haven't referenced 'xG' today, seeing as ours was 1.91; nice to use it as a stick to beat the manager with when it's convenient too, though, right?

[The Shire Claret]

I've noticed the boo boys haven't referenced 'xG' today, seeing as ours was 1.91; nice to use it as a stick to beat the manager with when it's convenient too, though, right?

Very good point

[dsr]

I've noticed the boo boys haven't referenced 'xG' today, seeing as ours was 1.91; nice to use it as a stick to beat the manager with when it's convenient too, though, right?

Close to half of that would be the penalty. We still didn't create all that much.

[RVclaret]

Close to half of that would be the penalty. We still didn't create all that much.

Pens are .75

Couple of big chances from corners today which was nice to see for a change.

Not sure why Brownhill or Anthony didn’t attack Pires’ cross rolled across the box first half. Should have been a tap in. Both on their heels, must learn.

[JR1882]

I've noticed the boo boys haven't referenced 'xG' today, seeing as ours was 1.91; nice to use it as a stick to beat the manager with when it's convenient too, though, right?

Pretty sure a penalty is 0.79 of that 1.91 and that was in the 94th min.

[CoolClaret]

Close to half of that would be the penalty. We still didn't create all that much.

Penalties are worth 0.76 xG, so still 1.15 for against 0.64, which is a big enough differential to suggest that we created better chances throughout the game (0.5 xG and above is a significant differential).

[dsr]

Penalties are worth 0.76 xG, so still 1.15 for against 0.64, which is a big enough differential to suggest that we created better chances throughout the game (0.5 xG and above is a significant differential).

Yes, I agree that we played better than we did against Plymouth, Swansea or Preston. Still very far from entertainment, though.

[BleedingClaret]

I didn't see that today, percentages say you don't try and hoof a 50 yard pass to koleosho who's screaming for it. Altho our CJ played some class long balls today.

CJER was the only player that played balls with urgency and speed besides maybe Laurent when he came on