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ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:52 am
by ClaretTony
Time to find two strikers to complete our best ever Premier League team

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https://www.uptheclarets.com/midfield-c ... kers-to-go

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:02 am
by dsr
One easy choice for me (Ings) one difficult (Barnes, Vokes, Wood). It always surprises me how much love Blake gets as a PL player - he scored 2 goals for Burnley in the PL. Same as Wout Weghorst, but in more games. I went for Barnes, though I'm not sure if either Vokes or Wood wouldn't make a better foil for Ings.

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:02 am
by BurnleyPaul
Now this one will be difficult…

I can see a lot of sentimental votes for one player in particular (Blake) which makes this incredibly hard to call.

Chris Wood surely has to be in there for his consistency over several seasons but choosing the other striker won’t be easy.

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:05 am
by ClaretTony
Blake had one season in the Premier League when he didn't really impress at all. Ings had one season when he did well but, for me, should be nowhere near the top two.

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:10 am
by KlyBfc
Wood (easy decision) and Barnes (just ahead of vokes) not so easy decision. Consistency at Prem level for us over more than a season wins it for me.

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:10 am
by claretonthecoast1882
Wood the easy choice, then was a bit stuck with Ings, Barnes & Vokes.

Went for Ings just

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:10 am
by ervi34
Wood and Barnes

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:15 am
by ClaretTony
KlyBfc wrote:
Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:10 am
Wood (easy decision) and Barnes (just ahead of vokes) not so easy decision. Consistency at Prem level for us over more than a season wins it for me.
Exactly how I voted

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:18 am
by MDWat
If you’re looking for the best team based on performance at Premier League level then it’s Barnes and Wood by some significant distance. That’s how I voted as I’m pretty sure that’s what we’re voting for.

If it was best players to play in the Premier League for Burnley then it’s Ings and Blake, again by some distance.

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:23 am
by Rowls
ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:52 am
Time to find two strikers to complete our best ever Premier League team

See link
https://www.uptheclarets.com/midfield-c ... kers-to-go
Hi Tony I think there's a typo in the poll question. It asks us to pick our "wide" strikers, rather than centre forwards.

We've not been blessed with a "wide" centre forward since Ade Akinbiyi but he was very lean.

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:24 am
by Boss Hogg
Ings has gone on to be a great striker in the PL for other teams. Shouldn’t be in our top 2 though. He should for a Championship team.

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:25 am
by Rowls
MDWat wrote:
Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:18 am
If you’re looking for the best team based on performance at Premier League level then it’s Barnes and Wood by some significant distance. That’s how I voted as I’m pretty sure that’s what we’re voting for.

If it was best players to play in the Premier League for Burnley then it’s Ings and Blake, again by some distance.
I'll wavered between those criteria. It's a fine line and I can't easily justify why I sometimes go with one rather than the other.

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:28 am
by ClaretTony
Rowls wrote:
Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:23 am
Hi Tony I think there's a typo in the poll question. It asks us to pick our "wide" strikers, rather than centre forwards.

We've not been blessed with a "wide" centre forward since Ade Akinbiyi but he was very lean.
Sorted, the word WIDE has now been removed.

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:29 am
by ClaretTony
MDWat wrote:
Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:18 am
If you’re looking for the best team based on performance at Premier League level then it’s Barnes and Wood by some significant distance. That’s how I voted as I’m pretty sure that’s what we’re voting for.

If it was best players to play in the Premier League for Burnley then it’s Ings and Blake, again by some distance.
It's clearly the first - based on performances in the Premier League.

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:34 am
by Rowls
ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:29 am
It's clearly the first - based on performances in the Premier League.
Yes but some more talented players haven't played consistently as long for us.

Take those voting for Blake in this round for example. Let's be honest, he's picking up votes because he is a club legend owing to his exploits in the seasons beforehand.

Ings vs Wood sums it up perfectly. Ings had more talent but only played enigmatically for a single season. The other was consistent over 3 seasons but never had quite the same ability. They're still being judged on how they played for us in the Prem.

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:35 am
by chekhov
For me it’s about quality not longevity. Otherwise players that played just one season would be disqualified. On that basis Danny Ings HAS to be included, he was our best player in 14-15 by a country mile and also better than any of the strikers that came afterwards. Then, probably controversially I’ve gone for Steven Fletcher, again because of the quality he showed in his one season (okay, I’m ready to be shot down!).

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:37 am
by boyyanno
Blake is my favorite ever player so it really hurt to leave him out.

I went for Barnes and Ings, but on reflection I probably should have gone for Wood and Barnes.

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:46 am
by GodIsADeeJay81
Ings and Woods for me, it's not even close.
A pairing of those two in prime form would be some partnership

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:47 am
by distortiondave
Nugent was our best striker in 09/10, I think.
But you can't really argue with the players with the most goals and appearances being the best strikers.

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:51 am
by fidelcastro
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:46 am
Ings and Woods for me, it's not even close.
A pairing of those two in prime form would be some partnership
Tiger or Laura?

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:57 am
by chekhov
distortiondave wrote:
Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:47 am
Nugent was our best striker in 09/10, I think.
But you can't really argue with the players with the most goals and appearances being the best strikers.
Nugent over Fletcher? Okay I’ll grant you that. You possibly saw more of them actually playing!

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 12:18 pm
by daveisaclaret
On the criteria set out I'd certainly have Nugent and Fletcher over Blake. And Blake was my favourite player growing up.

Wood by a distance and then Barnes for me. Honourable mention Vokes and Ings.

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 12:18 pm
by dsr
MDWat wrote:
Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:18 am
If it was best players to play in the Premier League for Burnley then it’s Ings and Blake, again by some distance.
That's the bit I can never get my head around. Blake scored 11 PL goals in his career, between Bradford, Birmingham, Burnley, and Bolton. (He never made it to the C's!) He was an outstanding Championship footballer but a journeyman PL player - all of Ings, Barnes and Wood have managed more in a single season than Blake did in his career.

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 5:52 pm
by bfcjg
Very difficult, Woods is a no brainer, ( surprised Wood wasn't in the list 😁 ) tough call between Ings and Barnes but went for Barnes as when him and Wood hit it off we were some force, plus longevity, Ings a far better footballer but our style in the Prem didn't suit him.

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 5:55 pm
by jdrobbo
Wood and Vokes 👍🏻

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 5:57 pm
by Shaggy
Blake has to be there, and probably ings

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:09 pm
by MACCA
Gone for Wood and Ings, they'll win the poll, there's only 1 CB from the all time 11 I didn't chose.

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:14 pm
by tiger76
Vokes and Wood for me, mainly because of how long they did well for us at elite level, a notable mention for Barnes and Jay..

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:03 pm
by Culmclaret
Blake and Ings just for the sheer pleasure of watching them

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:16 pm
by bobinho
Well, I went for the partnership of ings and vokes.

I can understand those voting for Wood, and for Blake, even for Barnes, but with Vings on the pitch, I ALWAYS fancied us to score.

Of those listed, obviously
Blake and Ings were technically ahead of the rest, but I went for how I felt when Vings were together.

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:16 pm
by ClaretTony
Shaggy wrote:
Mon Jul 18, 2022 5:57 pm
Blake has to be there, and probably ings
I loved Robbie Blake but he shouldn’t be anywhere near in terms of Premier League.

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:26 pm
by DCWat
ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:16 pm
I loved Robbie Blake but he shouldn’t be anywhere near in terms of Premier League.
It shows the impact that Blake had on pretty much all of us, that not including him, despite doing little at this level, is still a call I don’t like making.

It pained me to choose Wood who despite his goals, I never took to as a player, but he had to be there.

I opted for Barnes for the second but should probably have selected Ings. Head and shoulders above Barnes as a PL player.

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:34 pm
by taio
I haven't found the selections that difficult. Probably Pope or Heaton was the toughest call for me. In this instance I went Wood and Ings.

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:34 pm
by Nonayforever
chekhov wrote:
Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:35 am
For me it’s about quality not longevity. Otherwise players that played just one season would be disqualified. On that basis Danny Ings HAS to be included, he was our best player in 14-15 by a country mile and also better than any of the strikers that came afterwards. Then, probably controversially I’ve gone for Steven Fletcher, again because of the quality he showed in his one season (okay, I’m ready to be shot down!).
I almost went for Fletcher, I thought he was a brilliant player whom I really enjoyed watching, however I went for Barnes and Vokes. Wood was certainly up there but It was the emergance of McNeil that helped Wood whereas I thought Barnes and Vokes were far more about the team and that goal against Liverpool did it for me.

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:01 pm
by timshorts
That was tough. I can't think of ings now without a v-red shirt on, and was tempted to vote for juke and vyds so that they finished ahead of someone else who turned out to have nine (9) votes somehow. The vyds goal at Southampton was better than anything our Turkish loanee did all half season.

Re: ARTICLE: Midfield complete with just the strikers to go

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:52 pm
by Quickenthetempo
I went for Ings and Fletcher as they were far better footballers than the rest in the PL
Obviously Barnes and Wood scored more over longer periods but it's an opinion poll and them two are my type of footballers.