Covid-19

[quoonbeatz]

I had to call an ambulance for my wife, who had one yesterday morning. She's a theatre nurse and was due to start working in Southport ITU today. I suspect the stress and apprehension of that was a contributory factor.

Thankfully, it was mild and she's recovering well in Broadgreen hospital, but I can't go and see her because of this bloody virus.

Glad to hear she's on the mend, hope she's fully fit soon.

[Spijed]

Some good news...

The number of people having heart attacks is much lower than normal. Maybe those attacks brought on by the stress of driving or rail travel etc. Similarly, reduced number of people injured or killed in car accidents.

It’s helping the hospitals cope with the coronavirus.

Many other causes of deaths will be lower. The number of fatalities in road traffic accidents will be far lower lower this year due to travel restrictions, as one example.

[Zlatan]

I had to call an ambulance for my wife, who had one yesterday morning. She's a theatre nurse and was due to start working in Southport ITU today. I suspect the stress and apprehension of that was a contributory factor.

Thankfully, it was mild and she's recovering well in Broadgreen hospital, but I can't go and see her because of this bloody virus.

Paul, I wish your wife a speedy recovery and I hope you both stay well

[TVC15]

I had to call an ambulance for my wife, who had one yesterday morning. She's a theatre nurse and was due to start working in Southport ITU today. I suspect the stress and apprehension of that was a contributory factor.

Thankfully, it was mild and she's recovering well in Broadgreen hospital, but I can't go and see her because of this bloody virus.

My wife is a nurse too. It’s a very concerning time.
Glad she is on the mend and hope all is well going forward.

[RingoMcCartney]

I had to call an ambulance for my wife, who had one yesterday morning. She's a theatre nurse and was due to start working in Southport ITU today. I suspect the stress and apprehension of that was a contributory factor.

Thankfully, it was mild and she's recovering well in Broadgreen hospital, but I can't go and see her because of this bloody virus.

I was talking to friends recently and we all said that when this horrendous situation finally comes to an end . They're be nobody who whether, directly of indirectly, wont have be affected by health concerns or , tragically, worse.

I've a similar situation , as far as visiting goes and it's tough.

Wish her as speedy a recovery as possible and hope youre coping as best you can.

All the best to you both.

[tiger76]

I have been brought down to earth with a bang.
I am ringing each contact and talking to them about what they need.
I have nearly been in tears several times talking to them.
We just cannot print enough fast enough.
Luckily Hospital infection control approved cleaning between patients or you could factor this up massively.
Pic of the face Shields.

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Reuse will help ensure you get the maximum wear out of the protection,but is this safe for the wearers and their patients?

I guess in this predicament corners have to be cut,and you have to improvise.

My biggest worry is in social care,there's been numerous stories in the media in the past few weeks,regarding the lack of PPE for care home staff,and the staff who have to perform home visits,it's impossible for such staff not to avoid close personal contact with their patients,it's a major part of their job,plus many of the patients they provide for will have dementia or other ailments that make them confused,they are the forgotten front line,it's understandable the NHS is prioritised,but we shouldn't overlook the social care sector,as one of the home managers succinctly pointed out on the lunchtime news yesterday,if the social care sector can't cope,then in turn the NHS will keel over due to the demand.

Sent a small donation towards your total,I've nowt else to spend it on at the moment,so it might as well be put to practical use.

It's great what you and many other small companies are doing,but the burden shouldn't be on you,Matt Hancock continually repeats the PPE stock is lying in warehouses,it's no blessed use to anyone in there,it needs to be on the front line,why the supply/delivery chains are taking so long is beyond me.

[tiger76]

For a bit of light relief i'll share this tale,it'll be a frosty atmosphere during this couple's self-isolation.

The mayor of a small town in the US state of Illinois sent police to break up parties - only to find his wife among revellers.

Alton Mayor Brant Walker warned citizens on Saturday he would deploy officers to enforce stay-at-home orders intended to curb the spread of coronavirus.

Mr Walker has now spoken of his embarrassment after police discovered his wife at a party in a bar, which was open despite a requirement for all non-essential businesses to shut.

“My wife is an adult capable of making her own decisions, and in this instance she exhibited a stunning lack of judgement,” Mr Walker wrote in a statement on Facebook.

He added that she would face “the same consequences for her ill-advised decision as the other individuals” apprehended at Hiram’s Tavern early on Sunday. The party-goers face citations for reckless conduct.

[FactualFrank]

Fall in Covid-19 symptoms on tracker app suggests lockdown is working

Researchers believe the coronavirus lockdown is working as data from a tracker app suggests that the number of people aged 20-69 who are reporting Covid-19 symptoms has fallen from 1.9 million to 1.4 million across the UK.

The drop, by around 500,000 people since 1 April, is indicated in analysis of data from the Covid Symptom Tracker app, which is used by more than two million people.

Contributors can track their daily health on the specially created app, which is also being used by healthcare and hospital workers nationwide.

The researchers behind the app, which was developed by a team at King’s College London, said their latest figures suggest that staying home is having a big impact on the spread of the virus in the UK.

They say the drop in new symptoms indicates that although the number of hospital admissions and deaths from Covid-19 are currently rising, they should start to fall in about two weeks’ time provided social distancing continues. The team believes the two-week lag is caused by the delay between symptoms starting and becoming very severe.


So around the 19th-20th.

[KateR]

I had to call an ambulance for my wife, who had one yesterday morning. She's a theatre nurse and was due to start working in Southport ITU today. I suspect the stress and apprehension of that was a contributory factor.

Thankfully, it was mild and she's recovering well in Broadgreen hospital, but I can't go and see her because of this bloody virus.

So sorry to hear and sincerely hope everything works out as we go through these troubling times.

[Lowbankclaret]

Reuse will help ensure you get the maximum wear out of the protection,but is this safe for the wearers and their patients?

I guess in this predicament corners have to be cut,and you have to improvise.

My biggest worry is in social care,there's been numerous stories in the media in the past few weeks,regarding the lack of PPE for care home staff,and the staff who have to perform home visits,it's impossible for such staff not to avoid close personal contact with their patients,it's a major part of their job,plus many of the patients they provide for will have dementia or other ailments that make them confused,they are the forgotten front line,it's understandable the NHS is prioritised,but we shouldn't overlook the social care sector,as one of the home managers succinctly pointed out on the lunchtime news yesterday,if the social care sector can't cope,then in turn the NHS will keel over due to the demand.

Sent a small donation towards your total,I've nowt else to spend it on at the moment,so it might as well be put to practical use.

It's great what you and many other small companies are doing,but the burden shouldn't be on you,Matt Hancock continually repeats the PPE stock is lying in warehouses,it's no blessed use to anyone in there,it needs to be on the front line,why the supply/delivery chains are taking so long is beyond me.

Airedale Infection control checked it to see if they can be cleaned and re-used. They said they could be.

We got asked this morning, can we provide 700. It takes 1.5 hours to print one, although the lads are working hard on time reduction .
We have more printers ordered being funded by the just giving page.

[Lowbankclaret]

Reuse will help ensure you get the maximum wear out of the protection,but is this safe for the wearers and their patients?

I guess in this predicament corners have to be cut,and you have to improvise.

My biggest worry is in social care,there's been numerous stories in the media in the past few weeks,regarding the lack of PPE for care home staff,and the staff who have to perform home visits,it's impossible for such staff not to avoid close personal contact with their patients,it's a major part of their job,plus many of the patients they provide for will have dementia or other ailments that make them confused,they are the forgotten front line,it's understandable the NHS is prioritised,but we shouldn't overlook the social care sector,as one of the home managers succinctly pointed out on the lunchtime news yesterday,if the social care sector can't cope,then in turn the NHS will keel over due to the demand.

Sent a small donation towards your total,I've nowt else to spend it on at the moment,so it might as well be put to practical use.

It's great what you and many other small companies are doing,but the burden shouldn't be on you,Matt Hancock continually repeats the PPE stock is lying in warehouses,it's no blessed use to anyone in there,it needs to be on the front line,why the supply/delivery chains are taking so long is beyond me.

Thankyou very much.

[Zlatan]

Airedale Infection control checked it to see if they can be cleaned and re-used. They said they could be.

We got asked this morning, can we provide 700. It takes 1.5 hours to print one, although the lads are working hard on time reduction .
We have more printers ordered being funded by the just giving page.

Could you perhaps point them in the direction of this firm (already highlighted to you on this thread) https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/bus ... 529946?amp

There really is no need for the shortage, or for you to worry about printing them.

Pass the info on, as I know your genuine concern is to get face shields to people on the front line.....

[KateR]

Could you perhaps point them in the direction of this firm (already highlighted to you on this thread) https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/bus ... 529946?amp

There really is no need for the shortage, or for you to worry about printing them.

Pass the info on, as I know your genuine concern is to get face shields to people on the front line.....

I genuinely do not understand your post, what is it you are trying to say?

It reads to me like don't bother there is no problem with shortages and the link you shared proves that there is no point in Lowbank and team bothering? As I said I am confused and not trying to be argumentative, even if there was not a shortage it wouldn't matter if he printed a few hundred more would it, plus if there is no shortage why would he be getting orders from these different places?

[Zlatan]

I genuinely do not understand your post, what is it you are trying to say?

It reads to me like don't bother there is no problem with shortages and the link you shared proves that there is no point in Lowbank and team bothering? As I said I am confused and not trying to be argumentative, even if there was not a shortage it wouldn't matter if he printed a few hundred more would it, plus if there is no shortage why would he be getting orders from these different places?

KateR - it's me and I apologise. Lowbankclaret went out of his way to wind me up on purpose on this thread and I cannot take him seriously anymore.

However I have praised his efforts with the shields but I really would like him to forward the details from that company on to the hospitals as they are wanting to supply thousands of the shields whereas he can produce only a few hundred.

The point I'm making is that Lowbankclaret appears to be wanting praise constantly for his efforts on this thread, it's like he feeds of it. If there is a shortage as he says, then he should forward the details on and negate the need for him to raise money and print the few he is doing. Or do you think he should continue making only a few hundred and stop the hospitals he has contact with from getting the supplies they might need from elsewhere?

[KateR]

Zlatan,
thank you for the nice measured response.
I personally feel everyone should do what they can where they can, I criticized Lowbank during the stat's discussion and then I praise his efforts on this. Am sure we all have things we agree with some posters on and others we don't with the same poster.

I fully agree, where he works with certain outlets to fill the PPE need for face shields, he and anyone else should be advising those in need of an alternative source, even for the same thing and hopefully he fully agrees and says so and does this. If your post had simply been this I would have liked & not asked the question. We are all in this together, anything that helps we should applaud

[Zlatan]

Zlatan,
thank you for the nice measured response.
I personally feel everyone should do what they can where they can, I criticized Lowbank during the stat's discussion and then I praise his efforts on this. Am sure we all have things we agree with some posters on and others we don't with the same poster.

I fully agree, where he works with certain outlets to fill the PPE need for face shields, he and anyone else should be advising those in need of an alternative source, even for the same thing and hopefully he fully agrees and says so and does this. If your post had simply been this I would have liked & not asked the question. We are all in this together, anything that helps we should applaud

yeah, sorry. I think we're all being affected by this in ways we cannot as yet comprehend

[KateR]

I like this article which covers multiple things and shows the differences around the world.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51235105

[Grumps]

BAE donating 120,000 face masks

[CombatClaret]

Looks like we'll hit 1000 per day tomorrow, it's heartbreaking.

[basil6345789]

The figures displayed on telly each night are just primitive charts. Until someone puts up a CUSUM we'll not understand the trends/turning points.

[Grumps]

Looks like we'll hit 1000 per day tomorrow, it's heartbreaking.

It was also pointed out that the virus spread is slowing and we're starting to see the flattening of the curve.
I guess some people only hear the bad news

[basil6345789]

It was also pointed out that the virus spread is slowing and we're starting to see the flattening of the curve.
I guess some people only hear the bad news

Good point but only a CUSUM can prove this. Hope we are i for some good news!

[Grumps]

Good point but only a CUSUM can prove this. Hope we are i for some good news!

Would you not have thought that if it was helpful somebody might have produced one by now? Granted I've only had a quick search.

[KateR]

this helped my perspective for the future somewhat:

[CombatClaret]

It was also pointed out that the virus spread is slowing and we're starting to see the flattening of the curve.
I guess some people only hear the bad news

I am relieved/happy that the curve is starting to flatten, I've been posting graphs every day in the search for the signs. I am also heartbroken for the near thousand people and families of who died today and the days before.

Sorry to have expressed my grief.

[Spijed]

I am also heartbroken for the near thousand people and families of who died today and the days before.

Sorry to have expressed my grief.

It's been mentioned else where that had a thousand people not died of the coronavirus the same number would have died of many other illnesses.

There doesn't seem to have been an increase in the number of deaths over the last few weeks.

[CombatClaret]

It's been mentioned else where that had a thousand people not died of the coronavirus the same number would have died of many other illnesses.
There doesn't seem to have been an increase in the number of deaths over the last few weeks.

I'm sure that will come as great comfort to the friends and family of the 35 year old with no underlying health problems who died today.
Safe to say they'd have been hit by a car instead.

[Grumps]

I'm sure that will come as great comfort to the friends and family of the 35 year old with no underlying health problems who died today.
Safe to say they'd have been hit by a car instead.

He might not have, but somebody else would have.
It sounds heartless I know, but other deaths are down, and some of those who have died, might have died anyway. The time to tell will be when the death totals for 2020 are released, and how they compare to other years to get the true picture

[Devils_Advocate]

On the downside since the outbreak of Covid-19 the death rate for swans in the UK has gone through the roof!!

[evensteadiereddie]

The bill's going to be enormous.

[paulatky]

He might not have, but somebody else would have.
It sounds heartless I know, but other deaths are down, and some of those who have died, might have died anyway. The time to tell will be when the death totals for 2020 are released, and how they compare to other years to get the true picture

You really are a numpty. I am trying to be polite.
When this is over I really would like to meet as I dont think in my whole life I have met a grown man as naive and have a thought process like you have

[Grumps]

You really are a numpty. I am trying to be polite.
When this is over I really would like to meet as I dont think in my whole life I have met a grown man as naive and have a thought process like you have

Which bit are you struggling with?
That death rate for other reasons is down.. Road traffic accidents?
That some of the people would have died anyway at some point this year?
That a full years death figures are the best way to see how this year compares to others?
Had you read the post in the context it was written in reply to certain other posts it might have stopped you jumping to your usual wrong assumptions

I'd like to meet you as well, I don't take kindly to name calling

[tiger76]

So in summary a spike in deaths(bad),as Combat Claret sadly predicts we'll almost certainly hit a 1,000 a day soon,and these are just the recorded deaths in hospital,it's hard not too imagine there's been fatalities in care homes,and even in the community.

That's the bad news,the good news is the spread is slowing,it'll be a couple of weeks before this impacts on both the ICU cases,and the death figures though,hence the cautious optimism from the medical experts,all the public can do is sit tight,and wait for the benefits of the lockdown measures to pay off,it's frustrating as we'd all like to see things moving faster,but it was always said this would be marathon not a sprint.

Rishi Sunak says at every step of this process the government has followed the latest scientific and medical advice to help slow the spread of the virus.

The chancellor confirms the largest daily rise in UK deaths - up by 938 - making the total death toll reach 7,097.

Mr Sunak also says 14,682 tests were carried out on Tuesday.

"Our thoughts are with the family and friends of those who have passed away," he adds.

Testing increasing but painstakingly slowly,if they're going to reach 100,000 by the end of April,it'll have to accelerate rapidly in the next few weeks.

More financial help announced by the chancellor,this time for charities,this is welcome,but at some point this will all have to be paid for,that will have to be left for another day though,the focus just now has to be to get the country through this crisis anyway we can,and we''ll deal with the aftermath later.

[tiger76]

I'm sure that will come as great comfort to the friends and family of the 35 year old with no underlying health problems who died today.
Safe to say they'd have been hit by a car instead.

The vast majority of covid-19 fatalities are aged 60 and over,and often with underlying health conditions,however it's concerning that increasingly younger patients without any known health issues,are succumbing in growing numbers,this shows how deadly this disease can be,and why it needs to be respected by all ages.

[Lowbankclaret]

Could you perhaps point them in the direction of this firm (already highlighted to you on this thread) https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/bus ... 529946?amp

There really is no need for the shortage, or for you to worry about printing them.

Pass the info on, as I know your genuine concern is to get face shields to people on the front line.....

Happy to pass on your link.

Don’t like their design, it has holes in the acetate which means it’s not adjustable for the wearer and droplets can get through.

We are at 1500 orders.
Delivered 196.
40-50 going out tomorrow.

Honestly Zlatan I didn’t go out my way to wind you up.

I have found no matter what you try to do in this world there will always be people who belittle or knock you.

Currently there are people who are desperate and we as a group are just trying to help.

You feel free to sit there are knock it, I will take Pendlesides feedback on the just giving page over your feedback.

[Lowbankclaret]

It was also pointed out that the virus spread is slowing and we're starting to see the flattening of the curve.
I guess some people only hear the bad news

Truely it’s not.
One of the lads who is printing masks, his dad has caught it. He is 70 lives in Padiham. Has started with pneumonia. He is being left at home.

Ask yourself why.
Is ICU full?
Is it if he dies at home his death is not counted??

[Lowbankclaret]

I am relieved/happy that the curve is starting to flatten, I've been posting graphs every day in the search for the signs. I am also heartbroken for the near thousand people and families of who died today and the days before.

Sorry to have expressed my grief.

Which graph is flattening??

New cases, not doing enough testing for this graph to be meaning ful.

Deaths going up, still not recording deaths outside of hospital.

[Bfcboyo]

Trump gearing up for WWlll with China .

At least we have stopped worrying about trivial issues like, political scoring ,football rivalry and non binary gender neutral rubbish. I imagine this short sharp shock of reality will eventually be good for the planet and the human race.

Gawd bless all, stay safe. And look after our neighbours.

[Grumps]

Which graph is flattening??

New cases, not doing enough testing for this graph to be meaning ful.

Deaths going up, still not recording deaths outside of hospital.

It was pointed out by the scientist at the daily briefing. You obviously think otherwise, don't be offended if I stick with the experts.

[Lowbankclaret]

Could you perhaps point them in the direction of this firm (already highlighted to you on this thread) https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/bus ... 529946?amp

There really is no need for the shortage, or for you to worry about printing them.

Pass the info on, as I know your genuine concern is to get face shields to people on the front line.....

I have forwarded to the doctor who has asked us to print several hundred. I will let you know the outcome.

[Grumps]

Truely it’s not.
One of the lads who is printing masks, his dad has caught it. He is 70 lives in Padiham. Has started with pneumonia. He is being left at home.

Ask yourself why.
Is ICU full?
Is it if he dies at home his death is not counted??

So they are leaving him to die at home, just to help the figures?
And who do you think is doing this, medical professionals who's life revolves around saving lives?
Keep doing good by developing your masks, but you really have a warped view of life.

[Lowbankclaret]

It was pointed out by the scientist at the daily briefing. You obviously think otherwise, don't be offended if I stick with the experts.

I am not offended, was it not yourself that was in disbelief we would be at 10,000 deaths this week??

The data said we would and we will unfortunately.

[Inchy]

I have a FFP3 mask


I haven’t been fit tested on it because apparently fit checking is fine.....

.....oh and the masks I am using have a use by date. October 2019



Ps we are back to fit testing now because we have the equipment needed to fit test again so i spent today calling work, and will do the same tomorrow, scrambling to get a fit test before my night shift tomorrow.

It’s ok I’m young and fit and I won’t google viral load

[Grumps]

I am not offended, was it not yourself that was in disbelief we would be at 10,000 deaths this week??

The data said we would and we will unfortunately.

I did say that I didn't think we would, and also if we did I would admit I was wrong, it would still need a couple of days of high figures to reach it by Saturday, iam sure most of us on here are hoping we won't, those in the... I told you so... Camp probably secretly hoping they have their morbid moment of fame.

[mdd2]

Death recording is pretty inaccurate in epidemics. If you are seen within 2 weeks by a medical practitioner it is possible to issue a death certificate and when "Old age" is acceptable on that certificate it tells you how unreliable it can be. Even coroners after PM's can get the cause wrong.
In an epidemic like this or flu many people who die will have Covid-19 or at other times Influenza on the death certificate but presence of the virus on testing has not been the norm and even now won't be for the many where Covid-19 is put as the cause or contributed to death. Many frail elderly die at the end from pneumonia and likewise presently will succumb to flu or Covid-19. We will never get accurate certification of death. The young folk and if it happens the PM dying from Corvid-19 is a fact that we are seeing increasingly but others will die with it and there will be those who swab negative who have it and a few who test positive for the virus RNA who will not have Corvid-19.
Just like lies damn lies and statistics

[taio]

Truely it’s not.
One of the lads who is printing masks, his dad has caught it. He is 70 lives in Padiham. Has started with pneumonia. He is being left at home.

Ask yourself why.
Is ICU full?
Is it if he dies at home his death is not counted??

No and no.

[mdd2]

Inchy it does take sometime to be fit tested. Quite an interesting exercise, bloody awful tasting stuff they spray at you.

[tim_noone]

I have a FFP3 mask


I haven’t been fit tested on it because apparently fit checking is fine.....

.....oh and the masks I am using have a use by date. October 2019



Ps we are back to fit testing now because we have the equipment needed to fit test again so i spent today calling work, and will do the same tomorrow, scrambling to get a fit test before my night shift tomorrow.

It’s ok I’m young and fit and I won’t google viral load

Keep safe.

[Inchy]

Inchy it does take sometime to be fit tested. Quite an interesting exercise, bloody awful tasting stuff they spray at you.

I know. I’ve been fit tested on several masks. Failed on all but 1. We ran out of that 1 a few days later.

[Lowbankclaret]

I have a FFP3 mask


I haven’t been fit tested on it because apparently fit checking is fine.....

.....oh and the masks I am using have a use by date. October 2019



Ps we are back to fit testing now because we have the equipment needed to fit test again so i spent today calling work, and will do the same tomorrow, scrambling to get a fit test before my night shift tomorrow.

It’s ok I’m young and fit and I won’t google viral load

This is where I find out we have been scammed.

Dr James Oliver who said he worked at Leeds Hospital took 20 of out visors on Sunday. He said you have had a delivery.

I am worried you will not have heard of him, and we have been scammed.