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Re: Donald Trump

Post by FCBurnley » Wed May 06, 2020 7:50 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 7:34 pm
Of course it's a consideration,as it is for all countries,the difficulty is finding the right balance,between protecting the vulnerable,and trying to mitigate the long term economy damage,the difference with Trump is he's not interested in whether it's good for the American people,he only cares about getting back into the WH. Now whether a sitting Democrat president would act any differently isn't a :?: anybody has the answer to,they might well have taken the same decision to prioritise the economic recovery,ultimately the choice rests with the American electorate,and they'll deliver their verdict in November.
Had Trump been all consumed with the economy ( and being re-elected) then he would not have put the country on lockdown in the first place

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by KateR » Wed May 06, 2020 8:22 pm

it has to be taken into consideration ;)
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by grapidianclaret » Wed May 06, 2020 10:39 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 7:50 pm
Had Trump been all consumed with the economy ( and being re-elected) then he would not have put the country on lockdown in the first place
And I thought your conspiracy theories were ridiculous!

Live and let die!!!!!!
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by tiger76 » Wed May 06, 2020 10:41 pm

grapidianclaret wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 10:39 pm
And I thought your conspiracy theories were ridiculous!

Live and let die!!!!!!
One of the better Bond films in my view,great theme song to boot.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Uwe Noble » Wed May 06, 2020 10:45 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 7:34 pm
Of course it's a consideration,as it is for all countries,the difficulty is finding the right balance,between protecting the vulnerable,and trying to mitigate the long term economy damage,the difference with Trump is he's not interested in whether it's good for the American people,he only cares about getting back into the WH.
How can you possibly know this. Pure conjecture.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by tiger76 » Wed May 06, 2020 10:56 pm

Uwe Noble wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 10:45 pm
How can you possibly know this. Pure conjecture.
Just my opinion,disagree if you wish,it'll be down to the voters to decide,as it should be.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu May 07, 2020 12:11 am

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/0 ... ins-240852

Key Points

Democrat lawmakers plea to Trump administration to share with Congress the allegedly “enormous” evidence showing that the coronavirus sprang from a Chinese lab. Otherwise, they warn, the administration should quit hyping questionable information.

US military and intelligence officials have seen no evidence to support the theory the virus escaped from a Chinese lab

Both Republicans and Democrats are critical of China’s handling of the crisis (slow-footed early response and a seeming reluctance to share information with the world) but there is wariness around some of the anti-China rhetoric emanating from Trump aides as the pandemic has killed more than 70,000 Americans
  • “No one is defending China’s handling of this crisis. But the administration is working overtime to shift the blame away from themselves, and even our own health and intelligence officials have cast doubt on the Wuhan lab theory that the President and Secretary Pompeo are pushing,” the aide said. “If Secretary Pompeo has evidence, Congress and the public should see all of it, without spin and without cherry-picking.”
With regards to sensationalised dossier news story at least one of America’s closest intelligence allies, Australia, which is part of a five-country intelligence-sharing arrangement known as the Five Eyes, is now openly shooting down the Wuhan lab leak theory

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by FCBurnley » Thu May 07, 2020 12:15 am

grapidianclaret wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 10:39 pm
And I thought your conspiracy theories were ridiculous!

Live and let die!!!!!!
Are you one of the original halfwits ? :lol:

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by FCBurnley » Thu May 07, 2020 12:33 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 12:11 am
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/0 ... ins-240852

Key Points

Democrat lawmakers plea to Trump administration to share with Congress the allegedly “enormous” evidence showing that the coronavirus sprang from a Chinese lab. Otherwise, they warn, the administration should quit hyping questionable information.

US military and intelligence officials have seen no evidence to support the theory the virus escaped from a Chinese lab

Both Republicans and Democrats are critical of China’s handling of the crisis (slow-footed early response and a seeming reluctance to share information with the world) but there is wariness around some of the anti-China rhetoric emanating from Trump aides as the pandemic has killed more than 70,000 Americans
  • “No one is defending China’s handling of this crisis. But the administration is working overtime to shift the blame away from themselves, and even our own health and intelligence officials have cast doubt on the Wuhan lab theory that the President and Secretary Pompeo are pushing,” the aide said. “If Secretary Pompeo has evidence, Congress and the public should see all of it, without spin and without cherry-picking.”
With regards to sensationalised dossier news story at least one of America’s closest intelligence allies, Australia, which is part of a five-country intelligence-sharing arrangement known as the Five Eyes, is now openly shooting down the Wuhan lab leak theory
Nicely cherry picked DA

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by grapidianclaret » Thu May 07, 2020 12:21 pm

Trump administration has shelved its own CDC guidelines to reopen the country without allowing the report to see the light of day.
I wonder why. Must not have included regular bleach injections.
So much for listening to the experts.
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by FCBurnley » Thu May 07, 2020 8:42 pm

Case against Micheal Flynn dropped by DOJ. Hope he can sue the balls off all concerned. Remember this goes right to the very top of the previous government. This is going to be fun. Can’t wait to see the spin the Dems put on this one.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by FCBurnley » Thu May 07, 2020 9:15 pm

Prosecutor and former Mueller pit bull Brandon Von Grack resigned as Prosecutor earlier today. Another coward runs away. Wonder what Strok and Comey etc are doing right now ?

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by grapidianclaret » Thu May 07, 2020 9:31 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 8:42 pm
Case against Micheal Flynn dropped by DOJ. Hope he can sue the balls off all concerned. Remember this goes right to the very top of the previous government. This is going to be fun. Can’t wait to see the spin the Dems put on this one.
It should be interesting if he does sue. He did plead guilty twice. No spin required though. This is just Trumps bought and owned AG doing his bosses bidding again. Anybody with half a brain can see that Barr was given a set of tasks when he was made AG. He worked for a foreign country ,lobbying for them in washington and did not disclaim it. Not sure what is so difficult to understand about that.
And how does this go back to the previous government?
And why did Trump fire him for lying to Mike Pence?
Lets see your spin on those points

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by FCBurnley » Thu May 07, 2020 9:39 pm

Let’s just see who gets charged when all the full records are released hopefully this week unless Schiff accidentally destroys them 😂😂😂

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by grapidianclaret » Thu May 07, 2020 9:46 pm

Do you see a conspiracy around every corner?
What about the other associates of big Don? Also conspiracy theories?
Michael Cohen? Obviously set up.
I could list them all off but I don't have the time.
Trump university? Another set up?
The Trump charity rip offs?
Seriously, some times people are just guilty. Sometimes Democrats and sometimes Republicans.
What are your thoughts on bridgegate?

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by FCBurnley » Thu May 07, 2020 10:03 pm

Flynn is the tip of the iceberg. The DOJ have been caught. Nothing to do with AG. Just wait until the reports get released. Remember Schiff has irrefutable evidence against Trump so he should be thrilled to release the docs which he is being forced to do. I completely agree with the supreme courts unanimous judgement on Bridge gate. Read the findings and even you should understand.
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Uwe Noble » Thu May 07, 2020 10:12 pm

The tables are about to be turned in a very big way. Flynn was framed. It can't be denied, the documents released by the FBI and Justice department are damning.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by FCBurnley » Thu May 07, 2020 10:19 pm

Dems taking the usual stance. Just keep lying and admit nothing.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Vintage Claret » Thu May 07, 2020 11:27 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 10:19 pm
Dems taking the usual stance. Just keep lying and admit nothing.
Unlike Donald Trump who always tells the truth and owns up to everything?

Only asking..

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Taffy on the wing » Thu May 07, 2020 11:40 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 10:19 pm
Dems taking the usual stance. Just keep lying and admit nothing.
Turn off Fox News!........do yourself and everyone else a favor.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by KateR » Thu May 07, 2020 11:47 pm

YAWN

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by grapidianclaret » Fri May 08, 2020 12:50 am

FCBurnley wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 10:03 pm
Flynn is the tip of the iceberg. The DOJ have been caught. Nothing to do with AG. Just wait until the reports get released. Remember Schiff has irrefutable evidence against Trump so he should be thrilled to release the docs which he is being forced to do. I completely agree with the supreme courts unanimous judgement on Bridge gate. Read the findings and even you should understand.
Oh go on. Explain it to me so that even I can understand it.
Remember to put multiple emojis. I love the way you use emojis to stress your points.
What is the supreme Court ruling?

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by FCBurnley » Fri May 08, 2020 2:32 am

Read it like I did. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Is that enough. Let me know if you need more

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Uwe Noble » Fri May 08, 2020 9:26 am

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 11:40 pm
Turn off Fox News!........do yourself and everyone else a favor.
Turn off CNN, Sky, the BBC and just for once try to objectively look at the evidence. Take the Don Lemon poster down off your bedroom wall.

With regard to the Flynn case the Justice Dept. Is saying that the FBI had "no legitimate basis to investigate & prosecute the designated National Security Adviser ...". So why were the FBI investigating Flynn? Any answers? Anybody??

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by tiger76 » Fri May 08, 2020 12:05 pm

God Bless America,which sexual abuser will they elect, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52584774 is it any wonder half the country doesn't bother voting,when this is the calibre of candidates served up by both main parties.

The cynic in me is wondering why these allegations against Biden are only surfacing now,surely there wouldn't be a political motive,i do have to hold my sides laughing,when Trump supporters try to make capital out of this story,of course Donnie grabbing women by the genitals is perfectly acceptable.

In my opinion i'd strongly argue neither Biden or Trump are fit for office,and if this is the best America can offer,then their standing in the world will continue to plummet.To think this was the nation that gave us the likes of Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Roosevelt,what on earth went wrong?

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by grapidianclaret » Fri May 08, 2020 12:24 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 2:32 am
Read it like I did. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Is that enough. Let me know if you need more
I figured you wouldn't understand the content.
Nice emojis though.
Well done that man.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by grapidianclaret » Fri May 08, 2020 12:29 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 12:05 pm
God Bless America,which sexual abuser will they elect, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52584774 is it any wonder half the country doesn't bother voting,when this is the calibre of candidates served up by both main parties.

The cynic in me is wondering why these allegations against Biden are only surfacing now,surely there wouldn't be a political motive,i do have to hold my sides laughing,when Trump supporters try to make capital out of this story,of course Donnie grabbing women by the genitals is perfectly acceptable.

In my opinion i'd strongly argue neither Biden or Trump are fit for office,and if this is the best America can offer,then their standing in the world will continue to plummet.To think this was the nation that gave us the likes of Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Roosevelt,what on earth went wrong?
All empires fail.
Power is its own worst enemy.
Look at Rome and indeed The British empire.
The USA will hold on,for a fair while longer,but the American experiment is failing. America now has it's own Caligula, but he is a symptom not a cause.
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by FCBurnley » Fri May 08, 2020 3:44 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 12:05 pm
God Bless America,which sexual abuser will they elect, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52584774 is it any wonder half the country doesn't bother voting,when this is the calibre of candidates served up by both main parties.

The cynic in me is wondering why these allegations against Biden are only surfacing now,surely there wouldn't be a political motive,i do have to hold my sides laughing,when Trump supporters try to make capital out of this story,of course Donnie grabbing women by the genitals is perfectly acceptable.

In my opinion i'd strongly argue neither Biden or Trump are fit for office,and if this is the best America can offer,then their standing in the world will continue to plummet.To think this was the nation that gave us the likes of Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Roosevelt,what on earth went wrong?
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Bidens alleged groping is surfacing now for exactly the same reason as were Trumps and Kavanaghs. All purely political farce. What goes around comes around. I still dont believe that Biden will actually make it to the ballot box, but I hope he does.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by FCBurnley » Fri May 08, 2020 4:00 pm

Sounds like Hussein Obama knew all about the FBI Russia scam. Could make Watergate look like a teddy bears picnic

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by FactualFrank » Fri May 08, 2020 4:01 pm

"You know Hitler was from Germany."
"He was from Austria."
"Then how come you never saw him with kangaroos?"
"That's-"
"Or a boomerang?"

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Taffy on the wing » Fri May 08, 2020 4:21 pm

Uwe Noble wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 9:26 am
Turn off CNN, Sky, the BBC and just for once try to objectively look at the evidence. Take the Don Lemon poster down off your bedroom wall.

With regard to the Flynn case the Justice Dept. Is saying that the FBI had "no legitimate basis to investigate & prosecute the designated National Security Adviser ...". So why were the FBI investigating Flynn? Any answers? Anybody??
Because he's a treasonous crook........lock him up!
Get back to your Fox News.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by FCBurnley » Fri May 08, 2020 4:41 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 4:21 pm
Because he's a treasonous crook........lock him up!
Get back to your Fox News.
That’s no way to talk about Mr Obama 😂😂
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri May 08, 2020 5:32 pm

He must feel a right chump for pleading guilty.

Let me guess, he was forced into that.
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Uwe Noble » Fri May 08, 2020 5:39 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 4:00 pm
Sounds like Hussein Obama knew all about the FBI Russia scam. Could make Watergate look like a teddy bears picnic
Some of us have been saying this for years.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by FCBurnley » Fri May 08, 2020 5:46 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 5:32 pm
He must feel a right chump for pleading guilty.

Let me guess, he was forced into that.
Oh dear that is pitiful.
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by FCBurnley » Fri May 08, 2020 5:49 pm

Uwe Noble wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 5:39 pm
Some of us have been saying this for years.
Eventually one of the FBI **** will sing like a bird to save his/her scrawny neck.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Uwe Noble » Fri May 08, 2020 5:58 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 5:32 pm
He must feel a right chump for pleading guilty.

Let me guess, he was forced into that.
Amazing how liberals are now the party of the establishment. To be fair, conservatives now appreciate the importance of civil liberties. I just listened to Professor Alan Dershowitz point out that agreeing to plead guilty when charged by the FBI reduces your sentence ten fold. Apparently, Flynn's defence has cost him $10 million, they threatened to charge his son and we now know the FBI illegally witheld exculpatory evidence. Given all this it's a wonder that he did n't plead guilty earlier.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri May 08, 2020 6:20 pm

Forced into it then, got ya.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by FCBurnley » Fri May 08, 2020 6:26 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 6:20 pm
Forced into it then, got ya.
So what proof would you need to make you believe the FBI acted illegally ?

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri May 08, 2020 6:36 pm

Judy so we are clear, he was that adamant he was innocent that he pleaded guilty?

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by TVC15 » Fri May 08, 2020 7:01 pm

Judge Judy ?
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by grapidianclaret » Fri May 08, 2020 7:22 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 4:00 pm
Sounds like Hussein Obama knew all about the FBI Russia scam. Could make Watergate look like a teddy bears picnic
Don't cream you self too quickly.
Do they have an emoji for that?

All that you are gloating about is the independence of the american Judicial system.
Nobody benefits long term from this.
Trump and Barr will be as famous as Judge Taney and Buchanen.
I might be proven wrong, but I have heard it said that there are more Republicans than Democrats in the FBI and CIA.
Something to think about. I don't think any of the Members of either, not selected by Don , will be happy about either this decision or the previous interference by Don and his AG wrecking ball , in the Roger Stone case.
You think Donnie won, but at the cost of all of us, including yourself.
Gloat away. Enjoy yourself.Everyone else did during the bleach injection fiasco.You have earned it. Practice some more with your emojis.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Erasmus » Fri May 08, 2020 9:44 pm

FC Burnley, why do you call him Hussein Obama?

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by ksrclaret » Fri May 08, 2020 9:48 pm

Erasmus wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 9:44 pm
FC Burnley, why do you call him Hussein Obama?
I think we all know the answer to that one.
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by FCBurnley » Fri May 08, 2020 9:56 pm

Erasmus wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 9:44 pm
FC Burnley, why do you call him Hussein Obama?
Its his name.......why ?

Barack Hussein Obama.....unless he changed it

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by grapidianclaret » Fri May 08, 2020 9:58 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 9:48 pm
I think we all know the answer to that one.
Yep. He couldn't find a biggoted emoji to do the job
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by ksrclaret » Fri May 08, 2020 10:00 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 9:56 pm
Its his name.......why ?

Barack Hussein Obama.....unless he changed it
Why not use his full name then? Rather than his middle name and surname?

No need to answer that by the way, we know the answer.
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by FCBurnley » Fri May 08, 2020 10:03 pm

Dont know why it upsets you so much. I am proud of my name and I am sure Hussein is proud of his

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by ksrclaret » Fri May 08, 2020 10:07 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 10:03 pm
Dont know why it upsets you so much. I am proud of my name and I am sure Hussein is proud of his
It's just really odd that you would refer to him by his middle name? Who does that?

Is it because it sounds like a Muslim name? No need to answer that by the way. Again we know the answer.
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by FCBurnley » Fri May 08, 2020 10:29 pm

Well now you come to mention it

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