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ARTICLE: I was pleased the way we saw the game out

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:47 pm

Scott Parker & Sean Dyche on tonight's game

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Post by boatshed bill » Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:55 pm

What? Sitting on a pile of bricks? OK, Sean.

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Post by JohnDearyMe » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:18 pm

We could really do with an international break

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Re: ARTICLE: I was pleased the way we saw the game out

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:26 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:18 pm
We could really do with an international break
We looked absolutely knackered tonight - at least there are no midweeks coming up in the next few weeks and then in March we go three weeks between games because of the Leicester game and the international break.
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Post by Silkyskills1 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:55 am

In total agreement with Sean and CT here. I read a lot of comments regarding what players ought to be able to achieve physically on here but the current situation we face is cumulative and with around 20 mins. left some of the players were 'treading water'. The reasons for this have been well documented but around 60 hours to the next game I'm concerned about who will be genuinely available come Saturday. A very good point for us.

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Post by MACCA » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:18 am

We could do with a few players going out breaking the rules, cry covid and get a nice couple of weeks break, it seems to have worked wonders for a couple of teams....

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Post by Buxtonclaret » Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:59 am

It's really hard work at the moment with how quickly all the games are coming.
Especially clubs with small squads. And there aren't any other clubs with less options than ours in this league.
It was an excellent point last night.

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Post by jdrobbo » Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:05 am

Tough season; just survive and get through it. Disappointed in the moment when the full time whistle left but I’d spent all day thinking that it was a game that we mustn’t lose. Objective achieved and with plenty of games to come, it’s a highly significant result. Another tough one ahead on Saturday.

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:15 am

And some people still insist we should have gone full strength against Bournemouth. Incredible.
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Post by TheClaret » Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:40 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:15 am
And some people still insist we should have gone full strength against Bournemouth. Incredible.
Tbh I think your missing their point

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:43 am

TheClaret wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:40 am
Tbh I think your missing their point
Their point being that we should have played a full strength side. What have I missed?

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Post by TheClaret » Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:45 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:43 am
Their point being that we should have played a full strength side. What have I missed?
That they value winning something ie the fa cup as much or more than staying in the league

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Post by NewClaret » Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:53 am

TheClaret wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:45 am
That they value winning something ie the fa cup as much or more than staying in the league
Is this the Rovers fans on here that would like to see us win the FA cup and get relegated?

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Post by Ric_C » Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:58 am

Still annoys me that Fulham got the game cancelled in the first place which haven't helped us out at all in this period of games.
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Post by NewClaret » Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:58 am

jdrobbo wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:05 am
Tough season; just survive and get through it. Disappointed in the moment when the full time whistle left but I’d spent all day thinking that it was a game that we mustn’t lose. Objective achieved and with plenty of games to come, it’s a highly significant result. Another tough one ahead on Saturday.
Totally agree.

Very tough season for us generally, having lost players last summer, a full season recruitment freeze, a small squad, a far more congested fixture list. Just survive this one and regroup in summer. In that sense, last nights result was all that we needed and could have been a lot worse had we not scored immediately after their poor goal.

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Post by NewClaret » Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:59 am

Ric_C wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:58 am
Still annoys me that Fulham got the game cancelled in the first place which haven't helped us out at all in this period of games.
Yep, definitely vary annoying. Suspect it would have been a very different result at that time. We limited the damage though.

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Post by TheClaret » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:02 am

NewClaret wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:53 am
Is this the Rovers fans on here that would like to see us win the FA cup and get relegated?
No, I guess it’s just people with different opinions.

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Post by NewClaret » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:08 am

TheClaret wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:02 am
No, I guess it’s just people with different opinions.
I honestly can't see how any Burnley fan would prefer an FA Cup win over staying in the PL, which could send us back to permanent obscurity. PL status is key to the future development of the club.

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:15 am

NewClaret wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:08 am
I honestly can't see how any Burnley fan would prefer an FA Cup win over staying in the PL, which could send us back to permanent obscurity. PL status is key to the future development of the club.
Some posters seemed to think we could do both (I'm not saying we couldn't) but their views would be interesting if we'd not rested players and only picked up a point (or less) from the last two games.

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Post by CaptJohn » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:26 am

SD has to deal with the fit players he has available and last night for the last 15 mins we were running on empty. We didn't have an out ball and one of my big grumbles with SD is why he didn't bring on Joel. He's big and fast and would have chased down the out ball and kept the Fulham defence honest in that last period of the game plus he could have rested either Jay or Ash who looked knackered.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:29 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:15 am
Some posters seemed to think we could do both (I'm not saying we couldn't) but their views would be interesting if we'd not rested players and only picked up a point (or less) from the last two games.
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Think your missing the point.

A lot of fans are not particularly bothered about being a premier league club. So the chance of getting to a quarter final or potentially further is a much more exciting prospect than just surviving.

Each to there own I guess.

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Post by boatshed bill » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:29 am

chasing the ball has always been more tiring than keeping it.
if we could refrain from "lumping" it we might be less tired.

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:34 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:29 am
And what would you want the club to be aiming to achieve once we are back in The Championship?

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Post by ClaretLoup » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:42 am

CaptJohn wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:26 am
SD has to deal with the fit players he has available and last night for the last 15 mins we were running on empty. We didn't have an out ball and one of my big grumbles with SD is why he didn't bring on Joel.
Fair point Capt., but one consideration might have been that Sean had already used up two subs covering injured players and if he brought on Mumbongo and then the team copped another injury, they could have been down to ten men for the last 15/20 minutes.

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Post by Spijed » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:48 am

boatshed bill wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:29 am
chasing the ball has always been more tiring than keeping it.
if we could refrain from "lumping" it we might be less tired.
Can I just point out that in three matches against sides who are supposed to play better football than us - Brighton, Leeds & Fulham there has only been one team who has played the football during those games and it wasn't our opponents.
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:08 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:34 am
And what would you want the club to be aiming to achieve once we are back in The Championship?
But you are making a large leap with that statement. It is not a given that we would be relegated if we played a competitive eleven in the cup matches.

I’m not saying I support there view but I certainly understand it.

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:14 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:08 am
But you are making a large leap with that statement. It is not a given that we would be relegated if we played a competitive eleven in the cup matches.

I’m not saying I support there view but I certainly understand it.
You said "a lot of fans are not particularly bothered about being a premier league club"

So they're happy being where and doing what?

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Post by boatshed bill » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:28 pm

Spijed wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:48 am
Can I just point out that in three matches against sides who are supposed to play better football than us - Brighton, Leeds & Fulham there has only been one team who has played the football during those games and it wasn't our opponents.
But we never dominate possession, so we spend more time chasing the ball. And we still knock a lot of balls long, whether you want to accept that is entirely your choice.

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Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:58 pm

Reading what Scott Parker said this statement stood out for me ".........The ball was out of play a lot, there were a lot of fouls, a lot of stop start....."

A lot of fouls --true, except that there were not a lot of fouls when compared to Fulham's other PL matches this season. In only 6 of their 24 games have there been less fouls this season and in only three of those did Fulham commit less fouls than their opponents.
On Wednesday they committed 13 fouls and we committed 7, so why is he moaning?
In their PL games this season they are averaging 12.8 fouls per game, their opponents average 9.9. They are also second in the table for cautions with 45 yellows abd joint second in dismissals with 3 red.
We get a lot of criticism for being physical etc., however, we have had 31 cautions and 0 dismissals, although Brady seemed to be trying hard at one point last night!

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Post by Bin Ont Turf » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:09 pm

Maybe Sean should go easy on them in training.

How many matches did we play in 'the' Coyle season?

I think some of the training sessions that season consisted of a bit of stretching and a little kick about.

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