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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:11 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:09 pm
To be fair Tony both of there squads are considerably younger and larger than ours, they can afford to carry old players. Both would have been strange signings given the realities of our squad.
Either of them would have been an excellent addition. We never had intentions of going for both.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:11 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:09 pm
To be fair Tony both of there squads are considerably younger and larger than ours, they can afford to carry old players. Both would have been strange signings given the realities of our squad.
Considering you don't think Cork, Westwood or Brownhill are capable of passing a ball most things in life will appear strange to you. I realise it is probably just another way for you to have a whinge at Brownhill but aren't you getting close to boring even yourself with this agenda ?

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Post by s6t9a2f3f » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:24 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:09 pm
To be fair Tony both of there squads are considerably younger and larger than ours, they can afford to carry old players. Both would have been strange signings given the realities of our squad.
spot on pal, last we needed was 2 more over 30 players, more short sighted action from the club, keep putting plasters on issues that need a total operation overall - two of the recent players we have signed for "big money" have come from clubs that finished 14th (stoke) and 19th (bristol city) in the championship - its not rocket science where our breeding ground is and our pulling power is - but apparently, it seems, in the entire mid to bottom half of the championship there are no players aged between 21-25 that can possible improve our team/squad.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:26 pm

s6t9a2f3f wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:24 pm
spot on pal, last we needed was 2 more over 30 players, more short sighted action from the club, keep putting plasters on issues that need a total operation overall - two of the recent players we have signed for "big money" have come from clubs that finished 14th (stoke) and 19th (bristol city) in the championship - its not rocket science where our breeding ground is and our pulling power is - but apparently, it seems, in the entire mid to bottom half of the championship there are no players aged between 21-25 that can possible improve our team/squad.
It is like you put your batteries on charge for a few hours then once ready stick them back in, return and have another meltdown

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:31 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:11 pm
Considering you don't think Cork, Westwood or Brownhill are capable of passing a ball most things in life will appear strange to you. I realise it is probably just another way for you to have a whinge at Brownhill but aren't you getting close to boring even yourself with this agenda ?
I wasn’t directly taking a dig at Brownhill I feel that CM in general is our weakest position.

As Saturday highlighted we are playing a team that is supposed to be at our level but we only managed one sequence of over 10 passes the lowest in the league.
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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:32 pm

s6t9a2f3f wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:24 pm
spot on pal, last we needed was 2 more over 30 players
No he wasn't spot on at all. As I've already informed you, something you chose to ignore, we had no intentions of signing them both.

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Post by Dodobdobodobo » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:36 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 1:47 pm
All this talk about needing wide players is fair enough, but I honestly believe we need to find better players to replace Cork, Westwood and Brownhill in central midfield, by far our weakest area.
Totally agree with you!

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Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:36 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:31 pm
I wasn’t directly taking a dig at Brownhill I feel that CM in general is our weakest position.

As Saturday highlighted we are playing a team that is supposed to be at our level but we only managed one sequence of over 10 passes the lowest in the league.
Our ball retention compared to other sides in this League does seem very poor, at first viewing at least.Ño doubt there are stats somewhere to back this up or otherwise , but we dont seem able to keep the ball for extended spells as most of our opponents do.

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Post by ksrclaret » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:38 pm

I take it, with this bickering, that there are no rumours to discuss.

Someone make something up quick.

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Post by ClaretAndJew » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:39 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:38 pm
I take it, with this bickering, that there are no rumours to discuss.

Someone make something up quick.
Lennon in on a 3 year deal.
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Post by ksrclaret » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:43 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:39 pm
Lennon in on a 3 year deal.
This thread will now be locked.
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Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:49 pm

I'd like to see us put a 40 million quid bid in for Saint-Maximin just to jump start the big clubs into action with bids and get him out of Newcastle !

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Post by Iloveyoubrady » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:50 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:49 pm
I'd like to see us put a 40 million quid bid in for Saint-Maximin just to jump start the big clubs into action with bids and get him out of Newcastle !
Good shout. I wouldn’t think they’d be too good without him...
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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:50 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:49 pm
I'd like to see us put a 40 million quid bid in for Saint-Maximin just to jump start the big clubs into action with bids and get him out of Newcastle !
They'd move quickly to get that for him

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Post by s6t9a2f3f » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:50 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:32 pm
No he wasn't spot on at all. As I've already informed you, something you chose to ignore, we had no intentions of signing them both.
From a players position wise only Albrighton made any sense anyway - what would Young bring that a back up like Pieters doesn't ?? we already have 3 decent left side players in taylor, pieters and Dwight - yes taylor could be pushed forward but if we really wanted to do that we would play pieters more left back and taylor left midfield, same if we moved Dwight as a number 10 or off the forward but unlikely as the formation would have to change as well as personnel change. Plus probably our best movement forward never plays in Vids so cant see the new Dwight role anyhow. So Young brings age, experience, reliability so does Pieters - yes if your building a big squad fine but a wage to Young in a area where (for us) we seem covered is a starnge one when were crying out for other areas where we have no cover what so ever i.e. right midfield/winger

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:55 pm

s6t9a2f3f wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:50 pm
From a players position wise only Albrighton made any sense anyway - what would Young bring that a back up like Pieters doesn't ?? we already have 3 decent left side players in taylor, pieters and Dwight - yes taylor could be pushed forward but if we really wanted to do that we would play pieters more left back and taylor left midfield, same if we moved Dwight as a number 10 or off the forward but unlikely as the formation would have to change as well as personnel change. Plus probably our best movement forward never plays in Vids so cant see the new Dwight role anyhow. So Young brings age, experience, reliability so does Pieters - yes if your building a big squad fine but a wage to Young in a area where (for us) we seem covered is a starnge one when were crying out for other areas where we have no cover what so ever i.e. right midfield/winger
Young started out as a right winger, is right footed and played most of his career there.
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Post by s6t9a2f3f » Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:03 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:55 pm
Young started out as a right winger, is right footed and played most of his career there.
Ah your coming from the older version of Lennon angle then are you, power, pace, beating players, goals and plenty of assists ? hmmmm was not on the wave length as you I was on the Burnley pension plan for the elderly angle.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:11 pm

s6t9a2f3f wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:03 pm
Ah your coming from the older version of Lennon angle then are you, power, pace, beating players, goals and plenty of assists ? hmmmm was not on the wave length as you I was on the Burnley pension plan for the elderly angle.
You're sat there banging on about signing Young for the left side, yet he's right footed and has played on the right wing, which is where we wanted him for

If you're gonna have a rant at least get your facts right.
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Post by BenWickes » Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:15 pm

s6t9a2f3f wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:03 pm
Ah your coming from the older version of Lennon angle then are you, power, pace, beating players, goals and plenty of assists ? hmmmm was not on the wave length as you I was on the Burnley pension plan for the elderly angle.
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Post by Vino blanco » Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:18 pm

Signing Young would have been a joke. I would much sooner see a younger lad from the under 23s on the bench than another pensioner picking up a wage packet every week.

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Post by elwaclaret » Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:19 pm

What the does Young have to do with anything, anymore?

He was a player our manager thought would be valuable, he signed for Villa. What is left to debate?

The under 30thing some folk to obsess on is a complete irrelevance to building a team for this season. A thirty something is not necessarily over the hill, surely Burnley fans more than most clubs should realise that, If they stop looking at every opportunity to knock the club.
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Post by Spijed » Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:19 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:36 pm
Our ball retention compared to other sides in this League does seem very poor, at first viewing at least.Ño doubt there are stats somewhere to back this up or otherwise , but we dont seem able to keep the ball for extended spells as most of our opponents do.
Obviously it's not as poor as you think otherwise we wouldn't have had six straight seasons in the Premier league

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:20 pm

s6t9a2f3f wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:03 pm
Ah your coming from the older version of Lennon angle then are you, power, pace, beating players, goals and plenty of assists ? hmmmm was not on the wave length as you I was on the Burnley pension plan for the elderly angle.
No, you are on your annual let's slag off everything the club does angle.
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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:21 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:18 pm
Signing Young would have been a joke. I would much sooner see a younger lad from the under 23s on the bench than another pensioner picking up a wage packet every week.
Your opinion, I think he would have been an outstanding signing for us.
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Post by Vino blanco » Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:23 pm

As you say, my opinion.
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Post by superdimitri » Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:24 pm

dibraidio wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 9:28 am
I Work in a European client centre in France. We get dutch visitors all the time and a large number of them speak good French as well as brilliant English. Same goes for the Germans. Their language teaching is much better than ours.

Judging by this interview Erik Pieter's french is basic, he might understand a few words but if he's being spoken to in English it means he's not fluent as the French are as lazy as the English when it comes to languages, if they could have done this basic game in French they would have done.

https://actu.orange.fr/societe/videos/f ... dMJ0E.html
Kind of skews the demographic a bit though considering they are visiting France, doesn't it? I mean, you are more likely to speak French if you do.

But yes, you don't need to tell me they are very good with other languages compared to other countries, but my point still stands. Most people there know German, English and Dutch. My point is only exasperated by the fact Pieters doesn't.

Either way, language is just one barrier. A player is much more likely to get along with a mixture of different nationals than a group almost entirely from the same country. Could you see Cornet traveling with Barnes and Westwood in their van to games?

Like anything in life people make friendship groups. If we had more of a mixture of different players it would be a much more attractive prospect.

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Post by jrgbfc » Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:26 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:19 pm
What the does Young have to do with anything, anymore?

He was a player our manager thought would be valuable, he signed for Villa. What is left to debate?

The under 30thing some folk to obsess on is a complete irrelevance to building a team for this season. A thirty something is not necessarily over the hill, surely Burnley fans more than most clubs should realise that, If they stop looking at every opportunity to knock the club.
But if your squad is full of over 30s and you aren't careful you end up having to try and replace them all at the same time, like Palace recently. With the trouble we have recruiting that would likely be a disaster for us.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:27 pm

Potentially he could travel with the lads, would help build bonds and make him feel included in the group.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:33 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:50 pm
They'd move quickly to get that for him
in today's market they'd easily get 40 for him

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Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:42 pm

Spijed wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:19 pm
Obviously it's not as poor as you think otherwise we wouldn't have had six straight seasons in the Premier league
Not sure the 2 are as directly linked as that, but a fair point.

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:44 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:33 pm
in today's market they'd easily get 40 for him
I’m not sure that the clubs who pay those sort of figures would be interested

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Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:50 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:44 pm
I’m not sure that the clubs who pay those sort of figures would be interested
possibly, maybe a Spurs, Everton or a Villa, either way it wouldn't harm us if he left Newcastle !!

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:51 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:50 pm
possibly, maybe a Spurs, Everton or a Villa, either way it wouldn't harm us if he left Newcastle !!
He’s not consistent enough I don’t think for those clubs

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Post by MACCA » Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:57 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:51 pm
He’s not consistent encough I don’t think for those clubs
Off topic you're discussing, but do you have anyt articles written, or at least made a start on the research for 1 or 2?

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:58 pm

MACCA wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:57 pm
Off topic you're discussing, but do you have anyt articles written, or at least made a start on the research for 1 or 2?
Maybe 🤔
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Post by elwaclaret » Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:16 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:26 pm
But if your squad is full of over 30s and you aren't careful you end up having to try and replace them all at the same time, like Palace recently. With the trouble we have recruiting that would likely be a disaster for us.
I disagree. We know our long term aim is to promote from the academies / feeder clubs, which remain at the embryonic stage. Yes players need replacing and more ‘legs’ is a priority. However, the defence is solid it is in transition that requires work, that means 1 or two for the attacking options. Wingers are midfielders and offer the option of a protective midfield of our current players and the option of bringing wingers inside al-la Dwight, or even bringing Jay Rod in to play in front of the two sitters.

It is why I don’t expect much for central midfield this window. Maybe if one suddenly turns up that we can’t resist last minute.

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Post by Bigvince » Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:22 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:58 pm
Maybe 🤔
You tease!

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Post by s6t9a2f3f » Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:48 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:18 pm
Signing Young would have been a joke. I would much sooner see a younger lad from the under 23s on the bench than another pensioner picking up a wage packet every week.
SPOT ON

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Post by s6t9a2f3f » Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:50 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:20 pm
No, you are on your annual let's slag off everything the club does angle.
EVERYTHING the club does ? this wont take long..............apart from another miserable transfer window and london ticket prices and peeing off 70% of the fans there's not much more im afraid

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Post by Spijed » Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:03 pm

Bigvince wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:22 pm
You tease!
It'll be Aaron Lennon ;)
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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:15 pm

s6t9a2f3f wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:50 pm
EVERYTHING the club does ? this wont take long..............apart from another miserable transfer window and london ticket prices and peeing off 70% of the fans there's not much more im afraid
70% have you done your own survey?

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Post by s6t9a2f3f » Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:11 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:15 pm
70% have you done your own survey?
yeah its really 87% but I dont like to be the bearer of bad new..............as you know

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Post by box_of_frogs » Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:16 pm

Can’t wait for this thread to restart in the next window.

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Post by MACCA » Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:24 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:58 pm
Maybe 🤔
Excellent I'll take it.
When ever I asked my mother for something, maybe always meant yes :lol:
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Post by AlargeClaret » Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:29 pm

s6t9a2f3f wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:50 pm
EVERYTHING the club does ? this wont take long..............apart from another miserable transfer window and london ticket prices and peeing off 70% of the fans there's not much more im afraid
“ London ticket prices “ :lol: :lol:

Get a grip ffs . If we sign nothing by 31/08 THEN you’ll be justified in your “ miserable transfer window “ talk . We’re Burnley not flouncing tarts
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Post by ewanrob » Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:31 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:58 pm
Maybe 🤔
Could be Tarks new contract 🤞

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:36 pm

It will be Lennon, but that is no bad thing when we only have two wide men and we play 4-4-2

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by DCWat » Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:46 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:36 pm
It will be Lennon, but that is no bad thing when we only have two wide men and we play 4-4-2
It’s a poor do when we’re claiming a signing to be ‘no bad thing’ simply because we’ve very little else.

Lennon perhaps becomes a little more acceptable if there does prove to be another wide player brought in. That would still be a pretty poor window.

A minimum of two plus Lennon should really be the minimum requirement, particularly when looking at upcoming requirements in the not too distant windows.

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by ClaretAL » Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:49 pm

box_of_frogs wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:16 pm
Can’t wait for this thread to restart in the next window.
It beats 500 separate threads, and keeps them in 1 thread which you can choose to view or not :) win win situation UTC :)

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