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Cornet & Roberts

Post by nyclaret » Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:11 pm

When do people think we'll see them both in the starting line-up?

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by tarkys_ears » Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:15 pm

When they start

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:19 pm

I think we will see them off the bench soon enough but I think we’ll have to wait for a cup game or injury to see them start. Although an injury to JBG is never far away.
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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by Bosscat » Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:20 pm

When they are Dyche fit 😉
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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by Colburn_Claret » Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:32 pm

Dyches article on Defour was very interesting.
Rather than Dyche fit, read team fit. A players needs to settle into the psyche of how the team plays, before he gets to start. I should think it will be easier for Roberts than Max, but I can understand the rationale behind it.
I expect Cornet will feature regularly from the bench before then.
The playing without the ball, is the same as Atletico under Simeone, they haven't done too badly.
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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by Spike » Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:03 pm

Is Roberts fit again wasn’t he injured when he signed?

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by tiger76 » Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:06 pm

I'd hope Cornet would at least make the bench at Goodison. Whether he'll get on is another matter entirely, might well depend how the match is going.

Roberts is still recovering from an injury isn't he, so we may have to wait a few weeks before we see him featuring.

The positive aspect is we at long last will have viable options for the starting XI, and also the subs, both of which we've been severely lacking for a couple of seasons now.
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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by Froobs » Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:10 pm

You spend money like that on an international you bang him in from the off
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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by PadihamThickNeck » Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:15 pm

Rochdale game my guess.
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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:34 pm

Froobs wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:10 pm
You spend money like that on an international you bang him in from the off
Dyche has hinted not and I'd be amazed if we saw him play at Everton. Roberts would have been closer to being ready but he's recovering from surgery although was getting close to a recall at Swansea.
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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by RVclaret » Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:37 pm

Surely he (Cornet) makes the bench for Everton seen as we are now allowed 9.

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by AlargeClaret » Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:42 pm

I’d imagine all things well Cornet will get on sometime during the Everton game. Presuming Roberts a little longer depending on fitness ,be nice to see them both play vs Rochdale

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:46 pm

Roberts is injured so not till October time at the earliest, probably November. Depends if Lowton is still in form i guess.

Integrating players quickly is certainly becoming an achilles heel for Dyche and changing our style to a more attractive brand of football, hoping we evolve quickly on both of those issues this season.
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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by Spijed » Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:47 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:34 pm
Dyche has hinted not and I'd be amazed if we saw him play at Everton. Roberts would have been closer to being ready but he's recovering from surgery although was getting close to a recall at Swansea.
Would you expect him to be in the squad for the Everton game or more likely Arsenal?

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:48 pm

Spijed wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:47 pm
Would you expect him to be in the squad for the Everton game or more likely Arsenal?
No idea. Maybe Rochdale.

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:58 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:42 pm
I’d imagine all things well Cornet will get on sometime during the Everton game. Presuming Roberts a little longer depending on fitness ,be nice to see them both play vs Rochdale
I think if all things are going well there is absolutely no chance he’ll get on against Everton.

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by AlargeClaret » Wed Sep 08, 2021 2:13 pm

I’d be more than happy to go with that tbh

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by Froobs » Wed Sep 08, 2021 2:30 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:34 pm
Dyche has hinted not and I'd be amazed if we saw him play at Everton. Roberts would have been closer to being ready but he's recovering from surgery although was getting close to a recall at Swansea.
He should definitely be inluded in the matchday squad

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by kazza » Wed Sep 08, 2021 2:46 pm

Does Cornet need to self-isolate?

I can't see Roberts starting until Lowton either has a howler or gets a knock.

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by gawthorpe_view » Wed Sep 08, 2021 2:47 pm

PadihamThickNeck wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:15 pm
Rochdale game my guess.
Main reason I've bought my ticket is I'm hoping to get a good look at them, plus, hopefully, Gomez-Mancini, Richardson etc.

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by SalisburyClaret » Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:01 pm

Not before next season - unless there’s injuries to Lowton

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:05 pm

kazza wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 2:46 pm
Does Cornet need to self-isolate?

I can't see Roberts starting until Lowton either has a howler or gets a knock.
Don't think he does because he didn't travel to Mozambique - Roberts won't be starting, he's still coming back from surgery.

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by Silkyskills1 » Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:08 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:46 pm
Roberts is injured so not till October time at the earliest, probably November. Depends if Lowton is still in form i guess.

Probably November? He's in training, ' on the grass' as Dyche says. Why not leave it till next season for him to be fully integrated? :roll:

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by Boss Hogg » Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:12 pm

Think they will be eased in gradually and off the bench but I expect both will be starters before too long. Cornet won’t be content to sit in the bench. Could be a good attacking threat down the right again along with formation options now. Think both are very good signings.

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by claretburns » Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:58 pm

Cornet will only need to quarantine if he has not been double vaccinated due to coming back from Ivory Coast which is an amber list country.

I cannot see him involved at all against Everton, maybe after 10 days or so training and settling in he could make the bench for Arsenal but Roberts won't be until Rochdale at least.

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by The Enclosure » Wed Sep 08, 2021 7:38 pm

Think Roberts long throws will be a big asset for us .
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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by Taffy on the wing » Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:06 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:42 pm
I’d imagine all things well Cornet will get on sometime during the Everton game. Presuming Roberts a little longer depending on fitness ,be nice to see them both play vs Rochdale
Imagine if Cornet got injured?..........Don't think he'll play.

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by NewClaret » Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:12 pm

The Enclosure wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 7:38 pm
Think Roberts long throws will be a big asset for us .
Agree. I think we might see him play at RW given his key passes stats and to bed him in, but those long throws will be really helpful.

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:30 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:08 pm
Probably November? He's in training, ' on the grass' as Dyche says. Why not leave it till next season for him to be fully integrated? :roll:
Brady was always on the grass, no wonder he hardly played!
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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by AlargeClaret » Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:36 pm

I’m guessing SD will give a real time update on Roberts injury at the presser ? I’m seeing him more as a wingback in the Taylor mode for us

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by Stayingup » Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:27 pm

Froobs wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:10 pm
You spend money like that on an international you bang him in from the off
Like Gibson? Who was almost an international but cost a lot.
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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by Froobs » Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:42 pm

Stayingup wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:27 pm
Like Gibson? Who was almost an international but cost a lot.
Im on about cornet

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by Spijed » Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:44 pm

Has Cornet flown back and joined the squad yet?

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:46 pm

Stayingup wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:27 pm
Like Gibson? Who was almost an international but cost a lot.
Gibson wasn’t and isn’t an international

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:49 pm

Spijed wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:44 pm
Has Cornet flown back and joined the squad yet?
I presume so. He has recently posted a “new club” video on Instagram.

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:09 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:30 pm
Brady was always on the grass, no wonder he hardly played!
It's ruined many a promising career :D

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by Sheedyclaret » Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:14 am

6 months

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by dansch » Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:30 am

Froobs wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:42 pm
Im on about cornet
It's a fair point, we spent same on Gibson

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by Froobs » Thu Sep 09, 2021 7:52 am

dansch wrote:
Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:30 am
It's a fair point, we spent same on Gibson
Gibsons irrelevant to me. We have tarky and mee this season he wont replace either
I want to see Cornet

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by jedi_master » Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:08 am

I think Dyche finds it easier to introduce wingers straight into the team compared with defenders, where mistakes are usually far more costly. There will also be so much more tactical knowledge required to play there as part of that unit (i.e, knowing when to leave for Pope, when to step up and so on). That's on top of the fact Gibson had to get in front of arguably our two best players in Mee and Tarkowski. With respect to JBG, we have been needing a new option in that position for a couple of years at least now.

If I am not mistaken Brady made one sub appearance after signing for us then started against Chelsea. I predict the same with Cornet - sub at Everton, starts against Arsenal.

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:48 am

jedi_master wrote:
Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:08 am
I think Dyche finds it easier to introduce wingers straight into the team compared with defenders, where mistakes are usually far more costly. There will also be so much more tactical knowledge required to play there as part of that unit (i.e, knowing when to leave for Pope, when to step up and so on). That's on top of the fact Gibson had to get in front of arguably our two best players in Mee and Tarkowski. With respect to JBG, we have been needing a new option in that position for a couple of years at least now.

If I am not mistaken Brady made one sub appearance after signing for us then started against Chelsea. I predict the same with Cornet - sub at Everton, starts against Arsenal.
That’s a good point. Our wingers aren’t required to do too much extra defensively than most clubs. The thing with cornet though is what dyche has mentioned - he’ll need to settle into a new country and area so priorities at first will be sorting a house rather than throwing him into the first team.

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by superdimitri » Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:56 am

Depends where Cornet will sit on the Dyche scale. If he's bottom ladder like Vydra and Gibson he won't get a chance until Lennon and Gudmundsson are both injured. If he's top step like Wood he'll be straight into the team.

We're so short of wingers though I can't say it will take long, even if it does require two injuries.

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:02 am

superdimitri wrote:
Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:56 am
Depends where Cornet will sit on the Dyche scale. If he's bottom ladder like Vydra and Gibson he won't get a chance until Lennon and Gudmundsson are both injured. If he's top step like Wood he'll be straight into the team.

We're so short of wingers though I can't say it will take long, even if it does require two injuries.
Nonsense, but no surprise

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by superdimitri » Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:16 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:02 am
Nonsense, but no surprise
Not nonsense at all. If you can't see the players our manager prefers over others then there's no hope.. Utter nonsensical reply as usual.

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:19 am

superdimitri wrote:
Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:16 am
Not nonsense at all. If you can't see the players our manager prefers over others then there's no hope.
Well you named 2 players and 1 of those didn't start the last game, so yes it is nonsense. Then you do have a love of negative nonsense.

Would you like to have a wager that Cornet doesn't have to wait for injuries before getting a chance more than happy for you to set the amount.

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Thu Sep 09, 2021 12:17 pm

Maxwel has posted a picture of a plane window on Instagram that looks to be over some green fields. So I guess he’s just arrived in the uk. Highly unlikely he’ll feature vs Everton if he’s arriving today.

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by Gordaleman » Thu Sep 09, 2021 12:21 pm

Not sure about Roberts because of his groin injury, but I think the Rochdale game might be Cornet's first game. All the more reason to attend the cup game.

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by kazza » Thu Sep 09, 2021 12:22 pm

Unveiled at the Arsenal game and sneaks on the bench?

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by Boss Hogg » Thu Sep 09, 2021 12:36 pm

Will Cornet be risked in the Rochdale game ? We don’t want him hacked down like Lincoln did with JBG. I hope he doesn’t play in that game.

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Re: Cornet & Roberts

Post by kazza » Thu Sep 09, 2021 2:52 pm

From the Press Conference:

Burnley boss Sean Dyche on new signing Maxwel Cornet:
"Maxwell is on his way in. We'll check his fitness out and see how he's feeling. He had a bit of a dead leg but it's nothing serious."

Burnley boss Sean Dyche on new signing Cornet:
"We've got a different-minded board now, more open-minded. We want players to come in wherever they come from. Can players settle here and get used to life here? If life is settled off the pitch then they settle well on the pitch. It's a different process coming up here."

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