BWT final Warwickshire v Lancashire

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:29 am

Good news the sun is shining at Lords today.

Warks won toss and will bowl first.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:36 am

Obviously it's cricket, I know. But they have changed so much about cricket that I have completely lost track of who plays for what. Wasn't the county championship decided last week?

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:43 am

dsr wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:36 am
Obviously it's cricket, I know. But they have changed so much about cricket that I have completely lost track of who plays for what. Wasn't the county championship decided last week?

Yes Warwickshire claimed the title last week, and this is the new end of season finale, I'm still undecided whether this is a good addition or not, partly because it's taking place so late in the year, but it is a chance for Lancs to claim silverware, and they don't come along that often, so it would be a great way to finish the campaign for the red rose if they could win this match.

8-1 Balderson gone for 1.

lakedistrictclaret · Post by **lakedistrictclaret** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:48 am

8-2. Davies gone.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:51 am

9-2, Davies gone for 7.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:00 am

9-3, Wells gone for a duck.

HB Claret · Post by **HB Claret** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:00 am

3 down - maybe Lancs trying to lose it before the rain cones. Now 4 down !

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:04 am

Terrible start it was always going to be tough in the morning session, but this game is already looking grim only half an hour in.

Warwickshire have bowled well, but there's been a couple of soft dismissals.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:05 am

What format? 4 days? 50 overs? 20 overs? 20 sets?

If Lancs are already 4 down - as HB Claret has posted - is this a new format, how low a score can you get before the team is all out?

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:06 am

A 5 day game going into October, when you’ve just seen the county championship slip away….. fairly pointless game.

HB Claret · Post by **HB Claret** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:09 am

Don’t worry - we’ve still got Tom Bailey to bat !

CleggHall · Post by **CleggHall** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:10 am

The ECB has trashed the county championship and now this. They did however share million £ bonuses for successfully launching the Hundred!

HB Claret · Post by **HB Claret** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:10 am

But I wasn’t hoping to see Bailey batting within the first hour ! Croft gone now too

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:12 am

11-5, Croft gone also for a duck.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:16 am

Wow

... if I had the same attitude to Lancs as Dandeclaret has to anything Yorks

I would start taking the **** but

not the start I would have thought ...

I will leave the **** taking to others

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:18 am

12-6, Jones out for 1.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:19 am

Quite clever this from Lancs, they clearly wanted to bowl this morning to take advantage of the conditions.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:20 am

What is the record lowest total ever?

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:21 am

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:20 am
What is the record lowest total ever?

I remember Lancs bowling Essex out for about 20 a few year back

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:24 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:21 am
I remember Lancs bowling Essex out for about 20 a few year back

Yeah just looked it up that one was in 2013. Lowest ever was 12 in 1907 so it looks like we are safe.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:26 am

I don't like the idea of pointless games after the season has ended (Leicester v Burnley for FA Cup 3rd place in 1974 when less than four and a half thousand turned up at Filbert Street 12 days after the season had ended is a good example). If they want a Bob Willis Trophy then why not change the name of the county championship trophy or have an event mid-season?

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:27 am

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:20 am
What is the record lowest total ever?

Lancashire's lowest ever is 25, the lowest in recent times is 33 at Northants in 1977.

Lowest against Warwickshire is 70, so that might be in danger.

Herts Clarets · Post by **Herts Clarets** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:32 am

12-6 .....

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:35 am

Bosscat wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:16 am
Wow ... if I had the same attitude to Lancs as Dandeclaret has to anything Yorks I would start taking the **** but not the start I would have thought ...

I will leave the **** taking to others

It’s a pointless game, but at least Lancs were good enough in the proper season to get into the pointless game.

Have Yorkshire released “THE” report yet?

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:12 pm

Marginal recovery by Bohannon and Wood who added 35, before Bohannon was out for 17 moments prior to the rain arriving.

47-7 Wood & Bailey at the crease, play due to resume at 12.15

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:24 pm

I suspect low scoring games are the only way you’ll get results playing the last few days of September

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:26 pm

dandeclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:35 am
It’s a pointless game, but at least Lancs were good enough in the proper season to get into the pointless game.

Have Yorkshire released “THE” report yet?

Inappropriate question !

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:29 pm

57-8, Bailey gone for yet another duck, be doing well to pass 100 now.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:35 pm

57/8 at lunch, Luke Wood the one highlight with his unbeaten 31.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:43 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:26 pm
Inappropriate question !

Although to be fair to Dan I was taking the **** (not out of Lancs though) out of his fanatical obsession with his hatred of anything Yorks

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:50 pm

That performance was about as useful as watching Michael Duff play as a centre forward!!!

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:00 pm

I love the cricket bantz on UTCs, its so bad it almost makes the threads about new Burnley song lyrics seem interesting

DesmondHaynes · Post by **DesmondHaynes** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:04 pm

Interesting to see an Up The Clarets favourite, Tim Brennan, in the Warwickshire team. Three county championships for him, two with the cockney kolpack glory boys as well as a third this season aged 36, along with an ICC 2020 World Cup winners medal and an Ashes winner in Australia which enabled England to become number 1 ranked team in the world.

Not bad for a fat lad, as they say.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:12 pm

DesmondHaynes wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:04 pm
Interesting to see an Up The Clarets favourite, Tim Brennan, in the Warwickshire team. Three county championships for him, two with the cockney kolpack glory boys as well as a third this season aged 36, along with an ICC 2020 World Cup winners medal and an Ashes winner in Australia which enabled England to become number 1 ranked team in the world.

Not bad for a fat lad, as they say.

Tim Brennan is definitely a better cricketer than TPC, Tim Bresnan

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:13 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:26 pm
Inappropriate question !

Only on 7 of 40 alllegations within the question.....

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:15 pm

Paul Waine wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:05 am
What format? 4 days? 50 overs? 20 overs? 20 sets?

If Lancs are already 4 down - as HB Claret has posted - is this a new format, how low a score can you get before the team is all out?

dandeclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:06 am
A 5 day game going into October, when you’ve just seen the county championship slip away….. fairly pointless game.

Hi dande, wow, 5-days. As you can see from that wasn't one of the options I imagined.

What's the point of scheduling a 5 day game between 2 championship teams at the end of their season? It's often that championship games don't last the 4 days they are scheduled (and, a little while back, didn't they play a 3 day game)?

8 down at lunch on the first morning? Does anyone get the impression that the Lancs guys feel this might be a little too much cricket?

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:17 pm

martin_p wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:24 pm
I suspect low scoring games are the only way you’ll get results playing the last few days of September

Indeed! but it does make a mockery of holding a 5 day match at this time of the year doesn't it.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:22 pm

God knows why they thought they'd need 5 days at the end of September early October, unless they were planning for 2 days of rain.

The only people who don't think there's too much cricket are those who invented this nonsense, and that hundred nonsense.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:40 pm

57-9, Blatherwick the latest duck. and he's the 5th of the innings.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:03 pm

78 all out, Luke Wood left high and dry on 46, and it wasn't for him and Bohannon's 17, the card really would make gloomy reading.

Need another Tom Bailey burst to get us back into this one I'm afraid.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:21 pm

Warwickshire already 16-0. Are you sure this is the same pitch?

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:22 pm

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:21 pm
Warwickshire already 16-0. Are you sure this is the same pitch?

Wait while Davies opens for them next season, they will never get to 16-0

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:58 pm

Can see why Dom Sibley gets picked for England on his county performances.
He's only got 20 but has looked really positive and to dominate.

Far from the batsman that just tries to survive in an England shirt.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:59 pm

49-0, play stopped due to a heavy shower, unless Lancs get a few wickets this afternoon, we could be staring down the barrel of an innings defeat here.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:45 pm

Drop by Jones, and then Davies in the same over, that sums up Lancs today.

73-0.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:41 pm

100 opening partnership between Sibley & Yates, although Lancs have had a couple of strong LBW shouts turned down

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:49 pm

Another drop by Lancs, it's clearly one of those days at the office.

113-0, lead of 35 already.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:12 pm

Looks like it for the day, 120-0 at the close. Lead of 42.

bodge · Post by **bodge** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:40 pm

Crikey this could be one of the biggest mullarings in cricket history, I would have thought it would be a walkover with TPC in the opposition ranks.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:11 pm

bodge wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:40 pm
Crikey this could be one of the biggest mullarings in cricket history, I would have thought it would be a walkover with TPC in the opposition ranks.

May 2021 Lancashire beat Yorkshire by an innings and 79 runs.

Now that's a mullering.

You are correct in mullaring being a word mind you. It's an old Scottish word apparently.

It's amazing what you learn on this site sometimes.

Bresnan gets a lot of stick on here from Lancs fans for obvious reasons, but at county level he's a good player with bat and ball, and his experience must have been invaluable to some of the younger Warwickshire players, he knows what it takes to win a championship, and in a tight battle somebody like him is vital.

Good to see the debutant Manraj Johal impress, it's always great to see young English talent emerging, and he looks like he could have a long career ahead of him.