Man Utd v the Clarets - match thread

Iloveyoubrady · Post by **Iloveyoubrady** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:19 pm

Surely won’t be Lennon up front. Lennon will be wide with Mcneil ten!?

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:19 pm

If McNeil is playing as the third central midfielder/ number 10 then great.

If not, then rubbish.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:20 pm

Lennon,seriously

Norman · Post by **Norman** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:20 pm

dermotdermot wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:19 pm
Pope, Brownhill, Rodriguez and Cornet all missing. Couldn’t we hav had this called off?

Dyche is too honest.

Conroy92 · Post by **Conroy92** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:21 pm

Iloveyoubrady wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:19 pm
Surely won’t be Lennon up front. Lennon will be wide with Mcneil ten!?

Think this is most likely.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:21 pm

burnleymik wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:19 pm
Surely we aren't playing 4-4-2 with that line up. No way Lennon starts ahead of Vyds.

Yeah that would be ridiculous so surely not, I’d hope it’s McNeil in the 10

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:22 pm

dermotdermot wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:19 pm
Pope, Brownhill, Rodriguez and Cornet all missing. Couldn’t we have had this called off?

On what basis ?

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:22 pm

Only seven subs. Covid/injuries must be worse than we thought.

Claretnick · Post by **Claretnick** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:22 pm

dermotdermot wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:19 pm
Pope, Brownhill, Rodriguez and Cornet all missing. Couldn’t we have had this called off?

Roberts as well

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:22 pm

That squad

Love Island has more depth.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:23 pm

Wait - why are we playing this considering the amount of players we have out for Covid AND injuries on top (seen as that seems to bizarrely count)?

How does this compare with Villa and Everton?

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:23 pm

dermotdermot wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:19 pm
Pope, Brownhill, Rodriguez and Cornet all missing. Couldn’t we have had this called off?

No, because as you can clearly see, we can field a team. I'd rather us not resort to the sort of dishonesty and cheating we've seen in recent weeks.

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:24 pm

Either Vdys is not fully fit, or he is being sold. I really fancied him to score tonight. If he is fully fit, he will be furious and quite rightly.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:25 pm

Waving the white flag ?

timshorts · Post by **timshorts** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:25 pm

MACCA wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:49 pm
In that case as we need goals, what's Bobby Zamora and Craig McKail-Smith up too?

Must try harder

They are busy. However, Peter ward might be available - and with his bandy legs he would be even better at winning penalties now than he was in 1979.

TonbridgeClaret · Post by **TonbridgeClaret** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:26 pm

summitclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:24 pm
Either Vdys is not fully fit, or he is being sold. I really fancied him to score tonight. If he is fully fit, he will be furious and quite rightly.

I agree, very strange decision. Let's hope our glorious leader has got it right.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:26 pm

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:23 pm
Wait - why are we playing this considering the amount of players we have out for Covid AND injuries on top (seen as that seems to bizarrely count)?

How does this compare with Villa and Everton?

Quite simple really, we have 18 players on the match sheet and a couple others like Glennon that could be on the bench.

We are not below 13 required to get the cake called off

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:26 pm

dermotdermot wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:19 pm
Pope, Brownhill, Rodriguez and Cornet all missing. Couldn’t we have had this called off?

Nah! cause we're not one of the chosen ones are we.

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:26 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:23 pm
No, because as you can clearly see, we can field a team. I'd rather us not resort to the sort of dishonesty and cheating we've seen in recent weeks.

Yes and I’d rather we played before Leeds game, which is looking more likely to be crucial.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:26 pm

That team has got to be a message to the owners

Awayfromburnley · Post by **Awayfromburnley** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:27 pm

Wow that's a grim line up.

Happily will be wrong but we absolutely will not get a point tonight.

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:27 pm

CombatClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:22 pm
That squad

Love Island has more depth.

and definitely younger.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:27 pm

Frustrating that we finally play but have our own COVID/injury issues when every other team in the Prem seem to be happy to call their games off.

buzzclarets79 · Post by **buzzclarets79** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:27 pm

When Lennon is in your starting XI in the last game of 2021 you know you’re bang in trouble. Still he’ll run around a lot and look busy so that’s a box ticked…

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:27 pm

Interesting formation for United.

: Screenshot_2021-12-30-19-25-44-01_dc00545bd3b8828f033a02ac25b2d36d.jpg (152.41 KiB) Viewed 2294 times

Kazoo · Post by **Kazoo** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:28 pm

Strong lineup and a strong bench. #COYC

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:29 pm

If Lennon is going to be used on the left, with McNeil central meaning a midfield 5, why the f""" not bring back Brownhill and play McNeil in his best position?

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:29 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:27 pm
Interesting formation for United.

Screenshot_2021-12-30-19-25-44-01_dc00545bd3b8828f033a02ac25b2d36d.jpg

Played it every game under Ragnick

I really don’t think it suits them

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:29 pm

Newcastle had 2 players injured so could get their game called off so it’s all ok. This league is a joke.

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:30 pm

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:29 pm
If Lennon is going to be used on the left, with McNeil central meaning a midfield 5, why the f""" not bring back Brownhill and play McNeil in his best position?

Probably has the rona

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:30 pm

Milltown1882 wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:29 pm
Newcastle had 2 players injured so could get their game called off so it’s all ok. This league is a joke.

Tin foil hat brigade

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:30 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:26 pm
That team has got to be a message to the owners

Why?

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:30 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:26 pm
Quite simple really, we have 18 players on the match sheet and a couple others like Glennon that could be on the bench.

We are not below 13 required to get the cake called off

Were Everton, Villa and Newcastle seriously suggesting they didn’t have 13?

We have, off the top of my head based on that squad:

Pope
Barnes
Cornet
Roberts
Rodriguez
Long
Brownhill
Pope

All unavailable to play. How does that compare with the aforementioned clubs? Remember, injuries count…apparently.

Edit - also, you’re assuming regarding players such as Glennon. He’s made the bench plenty so I doubt that he was available.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:30 pm

summitclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:24 pm
Either Vdys is not fully fit, or he is being sold. I really fancied him to score tonight. If he is fully fit, he will be furious and quite rightly.

I suspect we’re only playing with a single striker and that’ll be the reason he isn’t playing.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:30 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:27 pm
Interesting formation for United.

Screenshot_2021-12-30-19-25-44-01_dc00545bd3b8828f033a02ac25b2d36d.jpg

Yeah that’s what Rangnick has been playing albeit the two in behind drift wide

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:30 pm

SkiptonClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:27 pm
and definitely younger.

You're more obsessed with age than Prince Andrew.

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:31 pm

Looking at our team and bench and then looking at United's we really shouldn't stand a chance. But we will see.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:32 pm

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:30 pm
Were Everton, Villa and Newcastle seriously suggesting they didn’t have 13?

We have, off the top of my head based on that squad:

Pope
Barnes
Cornet
Roberts
Rodriguez
Long
Brownhill
Pope

All unavailable to play. How does that compare with the aforementioned clubs? Remember, injuries count…apparently.

That’s exactly what it means.

They are literally the rules the premier league released.

Clearly we don’t meet that standard.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:33 pm

Milltown1882 wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:30 pm
Probably has the rona

Oh yes, not in the squad...Stephens instead of Brownhill then?

Claretincraven · Post by **Claretincraven** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:33 pm

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:29 pm
If Lennon is going to be used on the left, with McNeil central meaning a midfield 5, why the f""" not bring back Brownhill and play McNeil in his best position?

I will hazard a guess, as he’s not in the match day squad. Maybe he has covid. Or injured.

Petersa · Post by **Petersa** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:34 pm

buzzclarets79 wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:27 pm
When Lennon is in your starting XI in the last game of 2021 you know you’re bang in trouble. Still he’ll run around a lot and look busy so that’s a box ticked…

I presume you missed a sarcastic smiley off there buzzclaret

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:34 pm

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:30 pm
Were Everton, Villa and Newcastle seriously suggesting they didn’t have 13?

We have, off the top of my head based on that squad:

Pope
Barnes
Cornet
Roberts
Rodriguez
Long
Brownhill
Pope

All unavailable to play. How does that compare with the aforementioned clubs? Remember, injuries count…apparently.

Edit - also, you’re assuming regarding players such as Glennon. He’s made the bench plenty so I doubt that he was available.

Good try , Pope x 2

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:35 pm

Claretincraven wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:33 pm
I will hazard a guess, as he’s not in the match day squad. Maybe he has covid. Or injured.

You are right, just noticed.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:35 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:32 pm
That’s exactly what it means.

They are literally the rules the premier league released.

Clearly we don’t meet that standard.

Neither did the other teams meet that standard. They had young players to fill the bench, just like we've got Thomas on the bench tonight. You know, an inexperienced lad.

The difference is we've not made an application to get it postponed. That's the only difference.

Culmclaret · Post by **Culmclaret** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:35 pm

Oooh ‘eck. Damage limitation

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:36 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:32 pm
That’s exactly what it means.

They are literally the rules the premier league released.

Clearly we don’t meet that standard.

I know the rules of the Premier League. I am asking as I am too lazy to do this myself, are we seriously saying that Everton, Villa and Newcastle had less players available for selection than us? Considering we run the lowest squad size in the division and (on the team sheets evidence) are decimated, I find that incredibly hard to believe.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:37 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:35 pm
Neither did the other teams meet that standard. They had young players to fill the bench, just like we've got Thomas on the bench tonight. You know, an inexperienced lad.

The difference is we've not made an application to get it postponed. That's the only difference.

Why submit an application when you have no grounds for it?
We do not meet the required number out

Rombald · Post by **Rombald** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:37 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:32 pm
That’s exactly what it means.

They are literally the rules the premier league released.

Clearly we don’t meet that standard.

And there are clearly different standards being applied.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:37 pm

We only ever had an outside chance, that team hasn't a snowball in hells.
If we get something from this game it will be the best points we've ever earned in the Prem.

Really sad considering the missing are hardly likely to be injured, with no game in the last 18 days, I've moaned about other clubs players not being vaccinated, so it would be wrong not to moan about our own. When fans can't get into the ground without a covid passport, even if they've paid for a season ticket it's time all players manned up and did their bit.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:37 pm

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:36 pm
I know the rules of the Premier League. I am asking as I am too lazy to do this myself, are we seriously saying that Everton, Villa and Newcastle had less players available for selection than us? Considering we run the lowest squad size in the division and (on the team sheets evidence) are decimated, I find that incredibly hard to believe.

According to Rafa they had 12 fit and 3 touch and go including eligible u23s