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Post by ClaretMov » Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:23 am

Pearcey wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:21 am
Can you share then please, because I’m not privy to how the club do business.
Not being rude but where have you been for the last 5 or 6 year's.......OPEN YOUR EYES

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Post by welsbyswife » Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:24 am

No idea how we actually deal with parties in negotiations but either way the results have been very poor for the past few years. Cornet was a nice change but we really need to follow that up. What we have isn't enough. Would be a shame to go down with a whimper.

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Post by Pearcey » Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:25 am

That’s the last board and again I didn’t know how they did business.

Other than transfers I thought they were fantastic. Our club is now on another level thanks to them.

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Post by ClaretMov » Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:26 am

CFS wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:22 am
He's the reason we're going down if we sell him or not.
He's not the single reason but part of a massive reason why we are struggling this season, lack of investment over the last eight or so transfer windows, not strenthing the squad when we finished 7th and played in the Europa that was a perfect time to do it when we were a little more attractive than we are right now
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Post by clarethomer » Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:27 am

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:15 am
Have you considered these few factors before?

1. We don’t have the finances to put in large bids that get accepted so quickly (we aren’t going to overpay for a Chris wood at £25m just to trigger a release clause for example)
2. It’s January, clubs don’t want to lose players, if they do then they want replacements in themselves
3. Even if we do get bids accepted, we probably aren’t players first choice so they might leave it until late on themselves to see what other options there are.

It seems pretty obvious, does it not?
I genuinely don't believe any of us actually understand the full complexities - all good logical points though.

I'm pretty sure there will be more though;

- Agents fee considerations and wanting to work with the agent and vice versa
- Understanding the players on and off the field
- Work permits etc with some players.

I am also sure (despite what we think is happening) is that all of the things that go on will be happening with several players at any one point.

You also then need to consider that we also probably have players interested but may be not a priority and have to balance our cashflow so that young prospect that could not be a starter is someone we could get in quickly but to do that means we can't finance someone else we are looking at.

I think using a club for leverage probably happens more often than we ever hear/see so I can understand why it takes a lot of effort and time to do these things
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Post by MACCA » Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:31 am

mill hill claret wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:23 am
Let's just give in then ...you clown
Who said give in?...

You clown 🤡

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Post by ClaretMov » Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:32 am

The Ramsey deal is another load of bull made up by the media, he's unfit, not played for six month's so won't be ready for weeks, ontop of that are a loan fee and his wage of 400k a week we wouldn't pay him 60k so are Juventus going to pay the rest, fake news move on
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Post by ClaretMov » Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:37 am

More chance of signing this Ramsey


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Post by BabylonClaret » Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:40 am

He'd certainly be a character for the dressing room.
:D

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Post by Pearcey » Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:40 am

Come on then Claretmov, take me (in detail) through Burnley’s transfer business process. I’m desperate to know.
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Post by warksclaret » Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:44 am

If you want to stay in the PL then you need to be able to operate on par with the other 19 clubs in the the way you plan and conduct your transfer dealings. I think the word "savvy" comes to mind.Lot of posters telling us about all the factors that go against poor old club like ours, but I am afraid its par for the course.

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:45 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:37 am
More chance of signing this Ramsey



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Or Henry

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Post by Pearcey » Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:48 am

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Just for perspective.

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Post by Quicknick » Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:06 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:37 am
More chance of signing this Ramsey



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Better hair transplant than Ashley.

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Post by NewClaret » Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:18 am

Only 6 clubs have signed anyone, and of those I’m not sure there’s many I’d want us to have signed. Trippier & Coutinho & Digne aside.

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Post by Papabendi » Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:36 am

I'd take Wood

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Post by CFS » Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:41 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:26 am
He's not the single reason but part of a massive reason why we are struggling this season, lack of investment over the last eight or so transfer windows, not strenthing the squad when we finished 7th and played in the Europa that was a perfect time to do it when we were a little more attractive than we are right now
He ain't the only reason no most of that is down to dyche.

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Post by Steddyman » Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:47 am

Pearcey wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:48 am
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Just for perspective.
Notice how the clubs who have signed the most are in the same mess as us? They didn’t have a problem persuading players to come to them.

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Post by Guller Bull » Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:51 am

Papabendi wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:36 am
I'd take Wood
Steady!

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:52 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:20 am
99.9% of the way we deal in the transfer window is embarrassing
Thing is, if you were an agent, or someone like that, people would go "Crikey, it is"

As you are just someone who posts on here to moan, people go "Oh ffs"

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Post by Pearcey » Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:52 am

Steddyman wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:47 am
Notice how the clubs who have signed the most are in the same mess as us? They didn’t have a problem persuading players to come to them.
Newcastle and Watford can’t really be compared to us can they. They throw money about for fun. Norwich, Leeds, Brentford have done nothing. Most clubs have done nothing. There must be a reason for that. There’s still time and I’m confident we’ll do business.

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Post by tiger76 » Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:55 am

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:18 am
Only 6 clubs have signed anyone, and of those I’m not sure there’s many I’d want us to have signed. Trippier & Coutinho & Digne aside.
Yes but most of those clubs aren't in dire need of reinforcements and in danger of being cut adrift at the foot of the table are they.

Big week for Pace to deliver the goods, otherwise we might as well have left MG in charge, at least then we wouldn't have the debt mountain.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:56 am

Steddyman wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:47 am
Notice how the clubs who have signed the most are in the same mess as us? They didn’t have a problem persuading players to come to them.
Course, posting that without any context is easy

Now if you add the rather crucial bits, then its a bit easier to see why we haven't and they have

Newcastle - surely to god you all know that they are backed by a state with billions of pounds and no better idea of what to do with it than buy a club in the NE of England because all the better ones were taken

Watford - owned by a family own a few football clubs, and somehow manage to sign players between them all whenever one of them is in trouble. Its almost like its as bent as it could possibly be, but it can't be that can it?

Suddenly our transfer market activity and what we are up against becomes slightly more realistic doesn't it?
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Post by wilks_bfc » Sun Jan 23, 2022 12:07 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:01 am
Also re Carroll he scored 1 goal in a struggling Championship team and his erratic disciplinary record makes poor reading.
Erratic disciplinary record?
He’s been sent off twice in his career

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Post by minnieclaret » Sun Jan 23, 2022 12:59 pm

As today is our last match before the window closes and is not a game we are expected to win there is no rush. Signings before deadline are essential.
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Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:01 pm

the level of flapping on display is reaching epic proportions
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Post by Pearcey » Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:04 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:01 pm
the level of flapping on display is reaching epic proportions
It’s the same for every window.

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Post by Boss Hogg » Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:06 pm

minnieclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 12:59 pm
As today is our last match before the window closes and is not a game we are expected to win there is no rush. Signings before deadline are essential.
As we don’t beat the teams in and around us we shouldn’t be expected to beat other teams either. They are all free hits :roll:

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Post by NewClaret » Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:21 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:55 am
Yes but most of those clubs aren't in dire need of reinforcements and in danger of being cut adrift at the foot of the table are they.

Big week for Pace to deliver the goods, otherwise we might as well have left MG in charge, at least then we wouldn't have the debt mountain.
I don’t get the cut adrift argument. All teams have play each other home and away and have the same opportunity to score points. Until the end of the season the league table is transitionary and doesn’t really matter. Plus, this will only be our second game since the window opened (the other being on the second day) so any incomings have only had two chances to make an impact on our current league position.

Hard to disagree with the last paragraph though mate.

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Post by jojomk1 » Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:28 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:01 pm
the level of flapping on display is reaching epic proportions
Just been given an emergency order by Mr Pace, 3 ink cartridge rolls for BFC fax machine

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Post by Steddyman » Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:56 pm

Maybe we need to go down this year to attract players. Got to be more enticing signing for a team pushing for promotion than one almost certain for relegation?

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Post by joey13 » Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:03 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:04 pm
It’s the same for every window.
Yes because past windows have always worked out well :roll:

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Post by FulledgeClaret » Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:43 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:56 pm
Maybe we need to go down this year to attract players. Got to be more enticing signing for a team pushing for promotion than one almost certain for relegation?
I'm not so sure we will be pushing for promotion from the Championship next season were we to go down.

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Post by RicardoMontalban » Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:11 pm

FulledgeClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:43 pm
I'm not so sure we will be pushing for promotion from the Championship next season were we to go down.
Surely that’s the point of any squad rebuild. If we go down it’ll be a radically different side next year anyway.

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Post by Braindead » Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:12 pm

I hope all those suggesting Tarkowski should be dropped watched today's game. Whatever you think of him, he will be a massive loss to this club imo.

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Post by Shaggy » Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:13 pm

Braindead wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:12 pm
I hope all those suggesting Tarkowski should be dropped watched today's game. Whatever you think of him, he will be a massive loss to this club imo.

A leader.
He played very well it has to be said. As did the whole team
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Post by Goody1975 » Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:20 pm

Over to you Alan.

If we can defend like that for the rest of the season and add a bit of quality in the forward areas we can definitely stay up, especially with three points in our next game.
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Post by ClaretMov » Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:20 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:40 am
Come on then Claretmov, take me (in detail) through Burnley’s transfer business process. I’m desperate to know.
If you can't see it, what's the point in explaining it to you

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:22 pm

Goody1975 wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:20 pm
Over to you Alan.

If we can defend like that for the rest of the season and add a bit of quality in the forward areas we can definitely stay up, especially with three points in our next game.
agree 100%
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Post by Pearcey » Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:26 pm

ClaretMov wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:20 pm
If you can't see it, what's the point in explaining it to you
Because you don’t know what it is. You just want an excuse to have a dig at the club

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Post by ClaretMov » Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:34 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:26 pm
Because you don’t know what it is. You just want an excuse to have a dig at the club
Okay sorry you're right our transfer business has been fantastic and make Burnley fan's full of pride and the envy of all other clubs and supporters, how did I not realise this, silly me I must stop having a dig at the club

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:05 pm

CFS wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:22 am
He's the reason we're going down if we sell him or not.
How do you feel about that statement now?

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Post by CFS » Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:08 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:05 pm
How do you feel about that statement now?
The same?

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Post by ClaretAL » Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:12 pm

I see Dyche stated that there are people in the background trying to align situation when commenting on the transfer question. Nothing much he could say really...

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Post by Goody1975 » Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:14 pm

French league player links - This weekend.

Seko Fofana played 90 minutes in the 2-0 home defeat to Marseille
Armand Laurienté played 90 minutes in the 4-2 away defeat at Nantes
Angelo Fulgini played 90 minutes in the 2-1 home win against Troyes
Ludovic Ajorque played 90 minutes in the 4-3 away defeat at Bordeaux
Serhou Guirassy was an unused sub as Rennes lost 2-1 away at Clermont Foot

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Post by alwaysaclaret » Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:58 pm

Braindead wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:12 pm
I hope all those suggesting Tarkowski should be dropped watched today's game. Whatever you think of him, he will be a massive loss to this club imo.

A leader.
He's paid to be doing it every game, not 1 in every 6 or so, been a liability for most of the season.
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Post by NewClaret » Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:36 pm

Goody1975 wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:14 pm
French league player links - This weekend.

Seko Fofana played 90 minutes in the 2-0 home defeat to Marseille
Armand Laurienté played 90 minutes in the 4-2 away defeat at Nantes
Angelo Fulgini played 90 minutes in the 2-1 home win against Troyes
Ludovic Ajorque played 90 minutes in the 4-3 away defeat at Bordeaux
Serhou Guirassy was an unused sub as Rennes lost 2-1 away at Clermont Foot
Wish we could add Mohamed Bayo to that list. Not that my knowledge of Ligue 1 players extends beyond YouTube videos, but he looks decent, only 23, good goal record, very powerful & loves a tap in - we need a poacher like that.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:38 pm

ClaretMov wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:34 pm
Okay sorry you're right our transfer business has been fantastic and make Burnley fan's full of pride and the envy of all other clubs and supporters, how did I not realise this, silly me I must stop having a dig at the club
Well, it is all you appear to do

There is a balance between recognising that we could have been more proactive in the transfer market, and abandoning all sense of reality and sounding like someone who thinks football manager is how it works, and I don't think its unfair to say that you've not reached that balance yet
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Post by Nonayforever » Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:44 pm

One midfielder that I wouldn't mind being given a chance to shine is Dele Ali from Spurs.

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Re: January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by taio » Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:46 pm

Nonayforever wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:44 pm
One midfielder that I wouldn't mind being given a chance to shine is Dele Ali from Spurs.
Seems Alli will be off to Newcastle

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