January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:14 pm

claretandy wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:08 pm
It's a free transfer, 10m paid after 20 games.

rising to 35-40 dependent on clauses though

Andreshotboots · Post by **Andreshotboots** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:16 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:09 pm
Buying a proven striker in January is probably the most difficult purchase for a club without a wealthy owner. Even more so when you’re weren’t planning on shopping for one. So I think we’ve done pretty well on that score.

Agreed, but it was widely recognised we need midfield/ wide player reinforcements before Wood left. Yes we’ve had the rug pulled on one deal, but the table won’t give a hoot about that come the end of the season.

This I’m afraid is another awful window and my worry is this “profit” from the sale of Wood will not be seen again in respect of incoming players, and it will just be eaten up paying off the clubs debts.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:18 pm

I know plenty of people have mentioned him before but Jed Wallace is still at Millwall. With his contract up this summer I'm sure we could pick him up relatively cheap.
He'd offer us more than JBG, and we know if we go down we've got a great Championship player on our hands.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:18 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:14 pm
rising to 35-40 dependent on clauses though

Yeah, if Everton win the League and Champions League.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:18 pm

claretandy wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:08 pm
It's a free transfer, 10m paid after 20 games.

Also being reported that there are further add-ons that push the fee closer to £40 million.

Based on his last couple of years, those add-ons won't be paid out.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:24 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:12 pm
What happened with the potential signing you had a new article for? Deal just not happening due to his club or decided against coming to us?

No idea - but it does look like another wasted article.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:25 pm

Imagine fans being happy with JBG and Lennon at right midfield

talk about low standards and settling for mediocrity

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:25 pm

Don't forget free agents can still be signed after the window,might be a bargain or two out there.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:25 pm

claretandy wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:05 pm
Bournemouth sign Nat Phillips, they've absolutely smashed this window.

Success in business is at times studying how your competitors do business-it might be a restaurant, a retailer or a football club. Please AP can you approach Bournemouth to see how they research, approach, qualify and move forward in signing players. I dont recall them failing with anyone this window and they have signed players linked with us, plus players who would have been an upgrade on ours. Plus did they not snatch Ryan Christie who chose them not us last window. There has to be something to learn from their experience. We are currently no threat to them and would be flattered .Maybe its as simple as the persuasiveness of Scotty Parker

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:26 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:24 pm
No idea - but it does look like another wasted article.

Can you say whether it

A. Was for a central midfielder? Or
B. He was English

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:27 pm

I have a rule
If I've ever owned or considered owning a player over the last decade playing Fantasy Football, they are not signing for us.

It's worked for Dawson, Bowen, Ward Prouse etc and now will be the same for Origi and Ramsey.
I don't know why anyone is surprised we can neither afford/attract these types of players.

Maybe one exception being Aaron Ramsey, I'd have to check my AOL web history it was that long ago.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:28 pm

bfcjg wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:25 pm
Don't forget free agents can still be signed after the window,might be a bargain or two out there.

FULL HOUSE

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:28 pm

Boss Hogg wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:54 pm
Despite Garlick’s failure to invest in the team the new owners have had 3 windows to strengthen the weakest part of the team. So far they haven’t done it. Central Midfield has needed strengthening for as long as I can remember.

So first of all it was Garlick's fault and now Pace

There's one common denominator over all of these transfer windows - Dyche playing his rigid tactic of 4-4-2 with long balls up to a target man and hoping for the best. Plus his allegiance to so many players who are now just not up to it - he most likely still sees Westwood and Cork adding value to the side with Stephens a reliable back up (just like Kevin Long)
As for JBG and Lennon

Thank goodness Pace took some lead with the signings of MC and WW this season - they would never have been given a thought by SD

Football has evolved but sadly our manager hasn't, and I would guess a lot of potential signings are not coming to BFC because of him and his old fashioned ways as much as anything else

Worryingly, I fear the same will happen in the summer

arise_sir_charge · Post by **arise_sir_charge** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:29 pm

All this thread is missing is a poster logging in and asking if there is a loan window after the main window shuts. That’s an annual ‘BINGO’ moment for me.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:30 pm

Last night we were being told that Dan Gosling was at the bottom of the list.

Right now, he is probably sitting at the top.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:30 pm

is there is a loan window after the main window shuts ?

there you go

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:31 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:24 pm
No idea - but it does look like another wasted article.

Do you think we are done then CT?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:31 pm

Is there a loan window after the main window shuts?

(Lets get it out of the way nice and early so we can all go and realise that there are loads more important things in the world than telling everyone how annoyed you are at your football club not buying players)

*For context, the wife has just told me off for moaning about it

Cubanforever · Post by **Cubanforever** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:31 pm

He puts his left leg in
His right leg Wout
In
Wout
In
Wout
Shake it all about......I'll get my coat

holycustard · Post by **holycustard** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:32 pm

Is there a loan window after the main window shuts.

Thats like waiting for a bus then 3 turn up.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:32 pm

bfcjg wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:25 pm
Don't forget free agents can still be signed after the window,might be a bargain or two out there.

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:34 pm

At least we’ll have a fresh and revitalised CM partnership of Westwood and Cork on Saturday. Some things never change.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:35 pm

If we fail to address the midfield issues in this window, it’s quite simply another failure in an ever growing list of poor transfer windows.

Whilst the summer window showed some signs of improvement, it didn’t address the obvious key issues. These issues have come home to roost during the first half of the season.

We’ve had the rug pulled from under us with one transfer but we’ve had more than enough time to assess our shortcomings and be well prepared for this window.

It’d take a brave man to back us to stay up, from this position. Frustratingly, some additional quality in midfield and on the right would probably have seen us much further up the table than we are.

As it stands, this is more of a white flag window and quite what the impact of that will be is more than a little concerning.

Cubanforever · Post by **Cubanforever** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:36 pm

Cubanforever wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:31 pm
He puts his left leg in
His right leg Wout
In
Wout
In
Wout
Shake it all about......I'll get my coat

Ha wrong thread....nothing to see here

arise_sir_charge · Post by **arise_sir_charge** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:36 pm

To those that asked, no there isn’t a loan window when the main window shuts.

Thank you.

BobSykes · Post by **BobSykes** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:36 pm

Humiliating as it might be, right now we might as well sign Gosling, no?

Injuries and suspensions might leave us beyond desperate. Covid suspension rules have changed too.

He was said to be bottom of our list earlier, if we fail to even sign our desperate 10.59pm 20th pick, then surely that's more embarrassing?

So depressing. So Burnley....

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:37 pm

jojomk1 wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:28 pm
So first of all it was Garlick's fault and now Pace

There's one common denominator over all of these transfer windows - Dyche playing his rigid tactic of 4-4-2 with long balls up to a target man and hoping for the best. Plus his allegiance to so many players who are now just not up to it - he most likely still sees Westwood and Cork adding value to the side with Stephens a reliable back up (just like Kevin Long)
As for JBG and Lennon

Thank goodness Pace took some lead with the signings of MC and WW this season - they would never have been given a thought by SD

Football has evolved but sadly our manager hasn't, and I would guess a lot of potential signings are not coming to BFC because of him and his old fashioned ways as much as anything else

Worryingly, I fear the same will happen in the summer

Dyches fault and nothing to do with booing the knee or Burnley fans being racist, thats that sorted then Burnley Ace.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:37 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:31 pm
Do you think we are done then CT?

It's looking that way - but who knows?

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:38 pm

BobSykes wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:36 pm
Humiliating as it might be, right now we might as well sign Gosling, no?

Injuries and suspensions might leave us beyond desperate. Covid suspension rules have changed too.

He was said to be bottom of our list earlier, if we fail to even sign our desperate 10.59pm 20th pick, then surely that's more embarrassing?

So depressing. So Burnley....

He offers nothing more than the other 4 we have . Would rather see Helm in the squad

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:38 pm

Milltown1882 wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:34 pm
At least we’ll have a fresh and revitalised CM partnership of Westwood and Cork on Saturday. Some things never change.

Can't wait

ClaretMov · Post by **ClaretMov** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:39 pm

If this transfer window only brings in one single player, then I'd love to see anyone defend this by the club once it goes past 11pm

claret2018 · Post by **claret2018** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:39 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:37 pm
It's looking that way - but who knows?

We all do, deep down

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:39 pm

I’m assuming Ben Wickes will now disappear never to be heard from again.

Another ‘marlonspants’, probably the same person in fact.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:40 pm

ClaretMov wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:39 pm
If this transfer window only brings in one single player, then I'd love to see anyone defend this by the club once it goes past 11pm

There will be plenty who do, nothing surer...

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:40 pm

Teams we've strengthened

Senior - x
U23s - x
Social Media - ☑

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:41 pm

DCWat wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:35 pm
If we fail to address the midfield issues in this window, it’s quite simply another failure in an ever growing list of poor transfer windows.

Whilst the summer window showed some signs of improvement, it didn’t address the obvious key issues. These issues have come home to roost during the first half of the season.

We’ve had the rug pulled from under us with one transfer but we’ve had more than enough time to assess our shortcomings and be well prepared for this window.

It’d take a brave man to back us to stay up, from this position. Frustratingly, some additional quality in midfield and on the right would probably have seen us much further up the table than we are.

As it stands, this is more of a white flag window and quite what the impact of that will be is more than a little concerning.

I cannot believe we did not qualify the player and his agent about the seriousness of wanting to change club at a very early stage. Basic principles of buying and selling, more so with the complexities of moving club and relocating your family. So a wasted 7 days including fruitless time from our Chairman. Smacks of naivety and its happened in too many windows to be a one off. Remember Craig Dawson

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:41 pm

claret2018 wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:39 pm
We all do, deep down

Put it this way, I'll be more surprised should we sign someone than not.

But I won't be standing down yet

Karhu_Claret · Post by **Karhu_Claret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:42 pm

I might be completely wrong but this reminds me of a match thread when we're getting completely dominated and everyone is having a melt at how naff we've been. And then we sh*thouse a goal and all is forgotten.

I think this is one of those moments and we're going to sh*thouse a signing. Well I hope it is.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:42 pm

BurnleyFC wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:39 pm
I’m assuming Ben Wickes will now disappear never to be heard from again.

Another ‘marlonspants’, probably the same person in fact.

Hope so

Guller Bull · Post by **Guller Bull** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:43 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:36 pm
To those that asked, no there isn’t a loan window when the main window shuts.

Thank you.

Is there another transfer thread when this one closes?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:44 pm

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:41 pm
I cannot believe we did not qualify the player and his agent about the seriousness of wanting to change club at a very early stage. Basic principles of buying and selling, more so with the complexities of moving club and relocating your family. So a wasted 7 days including fruitless time from our Chairman. Smacks of naivety and its happened in too many windows to be a one off. Remember Craig Dawson

Thats an, er, "interesting take"

He changed him mind, after initially telling Dinamo he wanted to leave

In short, the club did exactly what you wanted them to to, and you still think its their fault

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:44 pm

ClaretMov wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:39 pm
If this transfer window only brings in one single player, then I'd love to see anyone defend this by the club once it goes past 11pm

An extra £13mil on the balance sheet that wasn’t accounted for before the window will go down well with people that act like the clubs finances are their own money.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:44 pm

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:25 pm
Success in business is at times studying how your competitors do business-it might be a restaurant, a retailer or a football club. Please AP can you approach Bournemouth to see how they research, approach, qualify and move forward in signing players. I dont recall them failing with anyone this window and they have signed players linked with us, plus players who would have been an upgrade on ours. Plus did they not snatch Ryan Christie who chose them not us last window. There has to be something to learn from their experience. We are currently no threat to them and would be flattered .Maybe its as simple as the persuasiveness of Scotty Parker

They throw more money at it, than we could ever dream of.
Recruitment, Parker have nothing to do with it, just money.

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:45 pm

Not good is it. But at least (so far) we have kept Tarkowski, Pope and McNeil.

daveisaclaret · Post by **daveisaclaret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:45 pm

ClaretMov wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:39 pm
If this transfer window only brings in one single player, then I'd love to see anyone defend this by the club once it goes past 11pm

The same people saying not to judge them until the window closed will be saying it's unfair to judge them because they tried really hard and it was impossible to do better

spt_claret · Post by **spt_claret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:46 pm

jojomk1 wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:28 pm
So first of all it was Garlick's fault and now Pace

There's one common denominator over all of these transfer windows - Dyche playing his rigid tactic of 4-4-2 with long balls up to a target man and hoping for the best. Plus his allegiance to so many players who are now just not up to it - he most likely still sees Westwood and Cork adding value to the side with Stephens a reliable back up (just like Kevin Long)
As for JBG and Lennon

Thank goodness Pace took some lead with the signings of MC and WW this season - they would never have been given a thought by SD

Football has evolved but sadly our manager hasn't, and I would guess a lot of potential signings are not coming to BFC because of him and his old fashioned ways as much as anything else

Worryingly, I fear the same will happen in the summer

Prove literally any of what you said and I will consider it.
However what we do know is:
-Dyche uses and has always employed analytics and data science.
-Dyche has previously attempted to use the foreign market, not often with success but has still tried - Defour, Hennings, Mumbongo, Vossen and Ulvestad being our overseas signings.
-Garlick was said to have opposed using foreign markets, and mistrusted our scouting of these markets- which will be more data science than boots on ground.
-Pace appears to be more onboard with analytics and overseas transfers.
-Pace makes lots of noise and show about being hands on but his hit rate is not much different to Garlick.

I have no idea where you get this idea from that Dyche doesn't want anybody but Championship cloggers and it is purely down to Saint Alan of Utah and his footballing genius despite being new to the sport 12 months ago and openly surprised at the role of agents in transfers, that we are so lucky as to sign anybody at all. If they were so at odds and Dyche is such a problem
It's bizarre and sycophantic and based far more in what you want to perceive than any available evidence.
From what we CAN see- Dyche and Pace are more in alignment on transfer approach than Dyche and Garlick which might return higher quality deals (jury still out on Roberts and Collins due to gametime) but it is still struggling to produce much in the way of a greater number of deals over the line and has not resulted in a noticeable change in funds available.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:47 pm

Cirrus_Minor wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:45 pm
Not good is it. But at least (so far) we have kept Tarkowski, Pope and McNeil.

Tbf, I don't think Pope or McNeil were ever going to be sold in this window.

Richardsbfc · Post by **Richardsbfc** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:48 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:07 pm
There is still a chance but it doesn't appear anything is happening right now.

Sounds like you’re edging your bets either way.

The team will be actively speaking to clubs, agents, players right until they can’t.

Plenty of time left.

Marney&Mee · Post by **Marney&Mee** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:49 pm

I believe that one of the CT articles penned is for Ashley Barnes. He’ll be like a new signing…

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:50 pm

Just any upgrade on Lennon/JBG, **** there's a long list in the Championship