January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[evensteadiereddie]

Gotcha, again.

[RVclaret]

This is the same fanbase that wanted us out of the Europa League as quick as possible so we could try and finish 17th, proper stagnant.

Aye but the Orient game

[ClaretAL]

So now its this board/forum fault...

[evensteadiereddie]

This is the same fanbase that wanted us out of the Europa League as quick as possible so we could try and finish 17th, proper stagnant.

Well, that's completely untrue, of course, but some of your potential replacements' names and acceptable transfer fees would give your comment a little more context...

[Jimscho]

Its a public forum. I'll 'cry' all I want. All I want us to see us improve us a club. We're making backward steps. Shame you don't want to see us progress further.

I appreciate its a public forum but does your gang have to keep repeating the same rubbish over and over and over again.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Well, that's completely untrue, of course, but some of your potential replacements' names and acceptable transfer fees would give your comment a little more context...

This is such a stupid argument. So are you saying that there is nothing else the club could do? Is there no one else they could have brought in

[ervi34]

Who used to tell the journo’s to stand down? Maybe the new staff don’t know? Or we’re still trying?

It's not the first window under new regime.

[jedi_master]

It’s not great at all, we desperately needed some creativity from the wing or midfield but it’s done now.

People need to accept it and roar the club on, there is literally no point dwelling at this point. The club needs all our energy focused on the players.

Beat Watford on Saturday and it’s absolutely game on - that is all that matters now.

[colne-claret]

I appreciate its a public forum but does your gang have to keep repeating the same rubbish over and over and over again.

Do you wanna be in my gang?

[Steddyman]

It would be so funny right now if we signed an amazing midfielder

[Quicknick]

Rouwen Hennings notched 15 in 2020.

That said he was linked with Spurs, Arsenal and West Ham at various times and from what I've seen is a real threat.


From a cursory glance Wout has scored 1 Vs Dortmund, 2 Vs Bayern, a few Vs Leipzig and Leverkusen, and bags Vs Hoffenheim, Bremen, Schalke, Dusseldorf and Union Berlin. But you can only score against what you play against, and Wolfsburg aren't exactly littered with creative and attacking stars, best they have is Camacho and Brekalo, Weghorst was pretty much carrying them for a couple years.

Rouwen Hennings scored his goals in Bundesliga B.

[Milltown1882]

It would be so funny right now if we signed an amazing midfielder

I’d be absolutely ecstatic to eat my words

[evensteadiereddie]

This is such a stupid argument. So are you saying that there is nothing else the club could do? Is there no one else they could have brought in

It's only a "stupid" argument because you can't answer it...

No, I'm simply asking Milltown or you, if you fancy it, to offer a few replacements' names and acceptable transfer fees.

We've had targets and these, for various reasons, haven't materialised and you've not once offered any appreciation of what's been attempted.

Fair enough but your comments seem to suggest you have some better ideas of your own, it would be helpful to know if this is true.

[colne-claret]

It would be so funny right now if we signed an amazing midfielder

I'd be the first to hold my hands up if we did and say I was wrong.

[Devils_Advocate]

Wow this threads gotten more embarrassing than our options in midfield and its the whole bloomin lot of you across all sides of the argument. Even some of the sensible posters on here for whom I usually have a lot of time for are acting like petulant school kids

[NewClaret]

Arsenal selling Aubameyang to Barca for free to get rid of £25m wages. Staggering.

[Newcastleclaret93]

No, I'm simply asking Milltown or you, if you fancy it, to offer a few replacements' names and acceptable transfer fees.

We've had targets and these, for various reasons, haven't materialised and you've not once offered any appreciation of what's been attempted.

Fair enough but your comments seem to suggest you have some better ideas of your own, it would be helpful to know if this is true.

I have highlighted numerous over this window. With the latest Undav going to Brighton for 6m.

Do your research before making statements.

[Pearcey]

It's not the first window under new regime.

I thought Daz Bentley was still at the club during the last window. Could be wrong though. So, we're still trying then.

[ervi34]

I thought Daz Bentley was still at the club during the last window. Could be wrong though. So, we're still trying then.

Think he left before but could also be wrong.

[Lancasterclaret]

Rouwen Hennings scored his goals in Bundesliga B.

Maybe

But he scored goals in the Bundesliga, and I saw one of them at Dusseldorf v Hannover

[evensteadiereddie]

I have highlighted numerous over this window. With the latest Undav going to Brighton for 6m.

Do your research before making statements.

6 million. His wages ?

So that's one. Next ?

Just for research purposes, you understand...

[agreenwood]

I have highlighted numerous over this window. With the latest Undav going to Brighton for 6m.

Do your research before making statements.

Tony Bloom owns both the clubs involved in that transfer.

“Do you research” he says

[Newcastleclaret93]

Tony Bloom owns both the clubs involved in that transfer.

“Do you research” he says

Yes does that mean we couldn’t sign the player?

[Lancasterclaret]

Yes does that mean we couldn’t sign the player?

Er, yes

[NewClaret]

Yes does that mean we couldn’t sign the player?

Not if they wanted him at Brighton, no.

[Vegas Claret]

Have we signed David Reeves yet ?

[joey13]

Rouwen Hennings scored his goals in Bundesliga B.

No he didn’t , they got relegated the season he scored 15 goals

[agreenwood]

Yes does that mean we couldn’t sign the player?

Brighton want a player from a club also owned by Tony Bloom.

It’s a tough question, but I’ll have a stab in the dark and say yes. Yes it does.

[boatshed bill]

Wow this threads gotten more embarrassing than our options in midfield and its the whole bloomin lot of you across all sides of the argument. Even some of the sensible posters on here for whom I usually have a lot of time for are acting like petulant school kids

Well, don't join in then!!

[LaLigaClaret]

Neither did I


You've done a lot of criticising but when asked who you might have had in mind or how much you think the club should have spent this window, you've suddenly gone all coy on us.

O.k I will take the bait for your fishing trip. I assume your ok that the only thing needed here is to show we would have improved on what we have currently got. So here goes.

I would have sold Tarks when we had the chance to maximise his worth. We got £25m for Wood and have spent £12m on getting WW. We were told there was money available to support the manager and indeed if you believe the reports we did make bids on Fulgini, Fofana and Orsic. If true then we had money to spend. There was generally a consensus by most posters on this message board that we needed more incomings. Whilst not a complete reflection of views a general view was I think it is fair to say was that we needed a RW or wide right sided midfield player, a defensive midfield player because these had been weaknesses identified for a number of windows that we had failed to address. It can be argued that we also needed more recently another CB because Tarks was not going to stay. Although Wood has been replaced this left us in the same state as before only JayRod is out of form, Barnes is coming back from another injury and is clearly not the same player he was anyway. Vydra needs an operation and is leaving anyway so another striker was also needed. We have so far failed to address any of these issues let alone thinking about the future and replacing are aging out of contract players. We haven't even strengthened the Development squad this time around. I don't see the evidence of many coming through to our senior ranks.

Well we could have bid for Jason Knight and Tom Lawrence in midfield these are valued at around £7m each because of the current situation at Derby. We could have bid for Jed Wallace as an upgrade on JBG. rumoured that £1.5m would have secure him. Fitzwater at Livingston at CB rumoured at £1m, Worrall at NF rumoured at £10m, Vaughn at Sunderland £3m, the kid at Oldham (can't remember his name) rumoured at £2m. Even Keiffer Moore is going for £3.5m. There are lots of quality players across Europe similar to Osric going for less than £10m, Lovric of HNL Gorica was £3,5 a winger or forward, we could have upped bids for Fofana and Fulgini. There was Seferovic at Benfica at around £13m, Doig at Hibernian at £3m a left back . I could go on.....

[dandeclaret]

Yes does that mean we couldn’t sign the player?

[evensteadiereddie]

Now that's more like it, LLC ....someone with the nads to do something other than snipe.

I agree with the Derby lads choice with Sibley as one for the future, possibly. £17/18 mill for the three.

Over to you, Milltown....

Newcastle, you still there ?

[tiger76]

6 million. His wages ?

So that's one. Next ?

Just for research purposes, you understand...

Knight & Lawrence at Derby should be within our range in terms of fees and wages, and Jed Wallace at Millwall is another we could have snapped up relatively cheaply, now the question remains could they adapt to the PL, but if we can't shop at the top table, and I completely understand why that's the case. then we should be looking at those types of players who we are more likely to obtain.

[ClaretTony]

Rouwen Hennings scored his goals in Bundesliga B.

Rouwen Hennings scored his goals in the Bundesliga in 2019/20

[KRBFC]

pages and pages of absolute shite, posters sat arguing with fans because they aren't happy we haven't improved in this window.

Reality check: People have different opinion to you, get the **** over it, boring

[gandhisflipflop]

Is there not even a shred of hope for 1 more?

[Quicknick]

There is still a chance but it doesn't appear anything is happening right now.

How do you know nothing is happening right now?

[Vegas Claret]

Knight & Lawrence at Derby should be within our range in terms of fees and wages, and Jed Wallace at Millwall is another we could have snapped up relatively cheaply, now the question remains could they adapt to the PL, but if we can't shop at the top table, and I completely understand why that's the case. then we should be looking at those types of players who we are more likely to obtain.

Sign Wallace for the Championship, we already know he's good at that level

[Newcastleclaret93]

Now that's more like it, LLC ....someone with the nads to do something other than snipe.

I agree with the Derby lads choice with Sibley as one for the future, possibly. £17/18 mill for the three.

Over to you, Milltown....

Newcastle, you still there ?

Again just go back over my numerous posts over the year. Like saying Brennan Johnson when he was at Lincoln etc… simile posters to you mocked that choice then as well.

[ClaretTony]

How do you know nothing is happening right now?

Its what I’ve been told but until the window closes things could potentially change.

[KRBFC]

Again just go back over my numerous posts over the year. Like saying Brennan Johnson when he was at Lincoln etc… simile posters to you mocked that choice then as well.

Don't even respond to him.

If people can't see why fans of a team bottom of the league aren't happy at the lack of improvement in the squad, quite frankly that is their issue.

It's the same posters over and over and over again, they will argue black is white just to argue, they have nothing else better to do.

[longside72]

Barkley on loan

[Wokingclaret]

3

Blown it

I don’t think we have enough to make a difference now.

The only hope is Cornet keeps fit now and gets a partnership going with Weghurst.

Oh and lets hope Dyche plays Weghurst from the off and not leave it weeks!

And Roberts first choice too.

Dare to dream, I was beginning to with the possibility of signing Orsic, but then I was woken up....back to our ClaretsWorld reality.

May be we set our sights too high, Ramsey and Lingard etc.

What no loans

[spt_claret]

If only it was just metropolitan lubbers who sneered at the white racist scumbags who pollute our town. They say you are judged by the company you keep I suspect you just don’t notice it.

What do you honestly think sways a football player, most of whom scrape through school and either dont care about politics, dont understand politics, or see politics as just something to sell their rights for? These are multi millionaires they are hardly ambassadors to the downtrodden no matter how hard their PR teams try.
How many actually sit down and pour through the social and political history of a town they don't even have to live in, which is unrelated to the club they would be employed by, then go "oh no thanks there's been people in that town whose views I disagree with", without so much as hearing a word from the club? Almost none.
How many look at 3 things- salary, trophy/international chances, match time, and pick according to which offers the most? Hell increasingly how many pick just based on salary? Almost all.
The only people thinking about and making everything political 24/7 and clamouring on about how divided the world is, are the same people demanding everyone else be political 24/7 and that if you aren't always loudly political for A, you must be B, helping increase the division they oppose (which keeps them in work, handily).
Not everyone cares about some pricks in a plane as much as you. Not everyone makes being on Red Tie Team or Blue Tie Team key to their identity. The one team that can unify that is a football team, but only if people actually let sport unify people instead of demanding people conform, people rarely respond well to that approach and often push the other way out of spite.
I'm sure you'll attribute all sorts of views to me after this, you'll be wrong. As you are with the idea that if only Burnley got BLM as shirt sponsors then suddenly we'd sign players.

Neither did I


You've done a lot of criticising but when asked who you might have had in mind or how much you think the club should have spent this window, you've suddenly gone all coy on us.

This is such an insipid argument as it asks fans to do better than full time professionals with access to endless databases and a team on hand to mobilise resources for them, which would be pretty illustrative of the problem if amateurs surpass pros, but for argument's sake:
Adnan Januzaj- valued £10.8m by Transfermarkt, available on a free this summer, talented Belgian winger who's lost his way but has skill. Might fancy oming back northwest.
Ryan Sessegnon- only 21, leftsided but even moving McNeil to the right improves our wings as he's clearly better than our current options, even if he's not available permanently Spurs would likely loan him due to lack of gametime.
Ricardo Horta- 27yo Portugese winger at Braga, valued at 15m by Transfermarkt, good consistent scoring record and can play either wing, in the hole or deputise up front.
Nicolas Dominguez- 23yo Argentine international combative CM at Bologna valued 11.7m, slightly similar to Kalvin Phillips.

Real quick lookabout, don't have nearly the resources the club has, we've probably already looked at and ruled them out for 1 reason or another. But you asked.

[spt_claret]

Rouwen Hennings scored his goals in Bundesliga B.

No. 2019-20 he was Bundesliga's 5th highest scorer with 15.

[Rombald]

Don't even respond to him.

If people can't see why fans of a team bottom of the league aren't happy at the lack of improvement in the squad, quite frankly that is their issue.

It's the same posters over and over and over again, they will argue black is white just to argue, they have nothing else better to do.

Pot, kettle

[tiger76]

Sign Wallace for the Championship, we already know he's good at that level

At least he'd offer something different to JBG.

And I'm genuinely confused what our transfer strategy is, I thought with the summer captures of Collins, Cornet & Roberts we were aiming for a more youthful approach, and also looking to develop players who in a year or two we might be able to make a profit on, and then reinvest that profit back into the squad.

But in this window we've seemingly put all our eggs in the Orsic and Weghorst baskets, one didn't come off, and one did, but both are nearing 30, and are unlikely to have much if any sell-on value.

So in the event of relegation we'll be left with an almighty rebuild, and the dire prospect of dealing with a large drop in income, plus servicing our debt.

[KRBFC]

Pot, kettle

Boden and Alex James think it's a disappointing window too, go cry at them.


Chris Boden
@bodenknights
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38m
They wanted two or three before Wood, so to end up with just a Wood replacement would be hugely disappointing


Alex James
@AlexJamesSport

Frustrating all round. The creativity/pace in midfield is not a new problem either, feel like we've been talking about it forever!

[burnleymik]

Are we still trying for Barkley or is it stand down time?

[alboclaret]

At least he'd offer something different to JBG.

And I'm genuinely confused what our transfer strategy is, I thought with the summer captures of Collins, Cornet & Roberts we were aiming for a more youthful approach, and also looking to develop players who in a year or two we might be able to make a profit on, and then reinvest that profit back into the squad.

But in this window we've seemingly put all our eggs in the Orsic and Weghorst baskets, one didn't come off, and one did, but both are nearing 30, and are unlikely to have much if any sell-on value.

So in the event of relegation we'll be left with an almighty rebuild, and the dire prospect of dealing with a large drop in income, plus servicing our debt.

I think orsic and weghorst were our try and stay up signings . Simply as that. One came off. Probably won't be enough unfortunately.