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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by claret2018 » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:23 pm

You honestly think we’d do well in the championship playing this type of football? We’d do well to stay in that league.

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by BOYSIE31 » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:24 pm

Should have gone last summer
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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by Paddy1882 » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:24 pm

Your footballs rubbish Sean get gone

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:24 pm

Sean Dyche may well be able to get a team promoted next season, but it won’t be this team as it currently stands. There’s no way this current Burnley team are up to the rigours of a 46 game Championship season.

Thank God so many are out of contract and we can put them out to pasture.

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by BigChaCha » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:25 pm

If we are going to let him go, then now is the time to do it but it would need a lot of bravery and I'm not even sure we are in the position to do it with the deal SD is on!

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by bfcjg » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:25 pm

I think of he wasn't on a massive contract he would be sacked. I have list faith. Needs a new voice and fresh approach. Thanks for everything Sean .

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by Pommieclaret » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:26 pm

We have gone backwards since Tony Laughlin departed. Was he the brains behind our success?
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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by Aclaret » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:26 pm

The weather was atrocious but the football was much, much worse.

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by Mrpotatohead » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:27 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:11 pm
You just know there will be a thread like this when the result is disappointing and you just know who will be posting on it.
Fair play for the loyalty CT but something needs to change, you can't keep putting blind faith into a man who hasn't delivered for well over a year now. Its only going to end in one result.

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by tiger76 » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:27 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:24 pm
Sean Dyche may well be able to get a team promoted next season, but it won’t be this team as it currently stands. There’s no way this current Burnley team are up to the rigours of a 46 game Championship season.

Thank God so many are out of contract and we can put them out to pasture.
I dearly hope that's the case, as far too many are past their prime, and yes that holds true even if we're playing in the Championship.

Get some goddamn energy into the team, and the midfield in particular.
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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:28 pm

I can't see a time when we will be able to buy success, so we really need to be much smarter in player development and selling for top money.
Not necessarily SD's fault that we haven't done this, but our strategy as a club has to change.
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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by expoultryboy » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:28 pm

No point sacking Dyche , but for someone on 3.5m I'd expect him to try something different instead of 4-4-2 every week .

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by warksclaret » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:28 pm

Trying to be objective about tonight. If you listened to Crouch and Keone tonight-you could tell Crouch still has a soft spot for us, however Keone summarised our performance accurately. We have a total lack of quality, particularly in the final third. There is no build up play, creativity, a lack of quality balls coming in from the wings, and totally disjointed as a team
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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by Leisure » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:30 pm

expoultryboy wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:28 pm
No point sacking Dyche , but for someone on 3.5m I'd expect him to try something different instead of 4-4-2 every week .
Like what?

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:30 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:16 pm
For once you offer a sensible argument Jakub, even if we did pot Sean, which given that'll probably cost £10m or so, then any incoming manager will still face the same issues in the market that SD has for years, now it is possible that that person could do a better job, but it would be an expensive gamble, especially given Dyche's record in the Champ.

However eventually there will be a tipping point for some fans, and that point must be coming closer by the week.

The whole club just seems jaded, and as great as Sean has been you do wonder precisely how much patience ALK will show if results don't drastically improve.

That new 4 year contract is looking a big mistake now, as it makes sacking the manager all the harder.
Something I forewarned everybody about at the time feel free to look at the Sean dyche contract thread, I’m not giving it mystic billy big bo**ocks but I could see what was going to happen with struggling this season & some sections wanting to get shut.

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:31 pm

Conditions were shite and Sean played the only team available
Charlie,Lowts and Collins can all come back to change the team

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by Leisure » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:31 pm

Mrpotatohead wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:27 pm
Fair play for the loyalty CT but something needs to change, you can't keep putting blind faith into a man who hasn't delivered for well over a year now. Its only going to end in one result.
So what do you suggest?

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by KRBFC » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:32 pm

I just wanna see us pass the ball and play a modern balanced system, I don't care if it's Dyche or not
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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by BigChaCha » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:33 pm

Get some goddamn energy into the team and the midfield in particular.
Midfield in general has always been an issue with SD. He has signed a few decent players there but I still remember how slow he was to replace Marney when he had the big injury which cost us dearly due to SD being so slow on the uptake!

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by Peter Loo » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:35 pm

We are all desperately disappointed with tonight’s performance and result but it’s not over till it’s over.

Still some games to go.
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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by BigChaCha » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:36 pm

I just wanna see us pass the ball and play a modern balanced system, I don't care if it's Dyche or not
Yep and having that plan b or c that can be utilised during and at the start of a game. He really is a dinosaur when it comes to style, tactics and formations!

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by beddie » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:37 pm

I’m not sure what people were expecting. With the current players we have and that we’re available what could he have changed, system wise?
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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:39 pm

Starting to think the time has come. Real end of era feel about that and the huge worry is no plan seems to be in place for next season.
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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by Fez » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:39 pm

Leisure wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:30 pm
Like what?
3 5 2

Roberts Taylor Wing backs.

Mcneil Westwood Brownhill

Cornet Weghorst

Would it work? No idea. Would it better us? No idea. Should we be trying something different? Most definitely.
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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by Peter Loo » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:39 pm

beddie wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:37 pm
I’m not sure what people were expecting. With the current players we have and that we’re available what could he have changed, system wise?
Absolutely right beddie.

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by bumba » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:40 pm

If we change from 442 all season it'll be to play 4411 that's as adventurous as he'll go

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by JimmyRobbo » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:42 pm

Just wind-up merchants.

He has worked miracles with minimal investment. Pace appears to be trying to invest. We had a gpod window in summer and not a bad window just gone. We need level heads and strong hearts. Watford have been good at sacking people yet couldn't beat us.
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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by Leisure » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:43 pm

Fez wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:39 pm
3 5 2

Roberts Taylor Wing backs.

Mcneil Westwood Brownhill

Cornet Weghorst

Would it work? No idea. Would it better us? No idea. Should we be trying something different? Most definitely.
Taylor and Brownhill weren't available.

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:44 pm

Dyche post match: “It is another clean sheet & a chance to build. There wasn't much in it.

“We were pleased with the mentality, we kept going. Both teams tried to play in these conditions and this is probably as bad as I've seen it!

Sorry, but WTF
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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by Peter Loo » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:44 pm

Fez wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:39 pm
3 5 2

Roberts Taylor Wing backs.

Mcneil Westwood Brownhill

Cornet Weghorst

Would it work? No idea. Would it better us? No idea. Should we be trying something different? Most definitely.
That’s looks like a positive line up fez.

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:46 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:32 pm
I just wanna see us pass the ball and play a modern balanced system, I don't care if it's Dyche or not
it's horrific football

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by SkiptonClaret » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:46 pm

JimmyRobbo wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:42 pm
Just wind-up merchants.

He has worked miracles with minimal investment. Pace appears to be trying to invest. We had a gpod window in summer and not a bad window just gone. We need level heads and strong hearts. Watford have been good at sacking people yet couldn't beat us.
“We’ve not had a bad window just gone”. Seriously ? In addition, of the players signed in summer only one has featured regularly. We’ve pretty much had the same ageing team for 3-4 years and it’s going to cost us.
Incredibly some are now pinning their hopes on the returning Barnsey because, I assume, he had a good season four years ago (or whatever)
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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by Taffy on the wing » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:47 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:44 pm
Dyche post match: “It is another clean sheet & a chance to build. There wasn't much in it.

“We were pleased with the mentality, we kept going. Both teams tried to play in these conditions and this is probably as bad as I've seen it!

Sorry, but WTF
The conditions were close to unplayable.......what part of that do you not understand?

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by KRBFC » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:48 pm

JimmyRobbo wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:42 pm
Just wind-up merchants.

He has worked miracles with minimal investment. Pace appears to be trying to invest. We had a gpod window in summer and not a bad window just gone.
the irony

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by Leisure » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:49 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 7:57 pm
Not a chance I’ll be going on the turf until he’s gone.
Well you won't be going for quite a while!

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by Claret Alfie » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:50 pm

It’s gone so stale. It’s awful to watch. We had the chance to bring players in last month to freshen things up and we didn’t.

We need a complete overhaul in the summer, whichever division we’re in. I’m not sure any overhaul will happen with Dyche still here.
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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by Papabendi » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:50 pm

We are becoming close to a laughing stock at this level.
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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by Leisure » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:50 pm

Peter Loo wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:44 pm
That’s looks like a positive line up fez.
We need more than 7 players!

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by LoveCurryPies » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:51 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:44 pm
Dyche post match: “It is another clean sheet & a chance to build. There wasn't much in it.

“We were pleased with the mentality, we kept going. Both teams tried to play in these conditions and this is probably as bad as I've seen it!

Sorry, but WTF
Do you want him to slag off individual players?

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by NickBFC » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:52 pm

Nobody can argue things have gone very, very stale. I think the whole club needs a shake up. Whether now or the summer is the time to do it who knows? Maybe Sean is in his comfort zone...

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by Peter Loo » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:54 pm

Leisure wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:50 pm
We need more than 7 players!
We do but sacking Dyche isn’t one of them in my view.

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by DCWat » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:55 pm

With the issues we obviously still have in getting deals over the line, it hardly fills me with confidence imagining Pace bringing in a suitable replacement, were we to sack Dyche.

I’m disappointed with how poor the team has become - it’s stale and I do think that Dyche has to accept some of the responsibility (notwithstanding the problems created by Garlick).

What is obvious is that we need a wholesale clear out of a significant proportion of the squad. Dyche has the credits in the bank to be given the chance to deliver this. I would though be expecting to see far better than we’ve been served up for the past few years - results of course but also performances / style.

Yes, it’s a results business, it’s also an entertainment business and sadly that’s been lacking for too long.

Dyche has next season for me - the target being promotion.

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:59 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:51 pm
Do you want him to slag off individual players?
I'd like him to be honest and say we lacked any sort of quality but hey ho
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Post by nyclaret » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:59 pm

Sean could take us down to League One and people on here would still back him.
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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:00 pm

It looks like we are done this season but I’d still want him in charge next season.

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by RVclaret » Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:01 pm

Do we think Dyche will have a significant wage cut for taking us down? I mean, anything over 25k a week on a manager in the Champ is a lot, let alone his 100k.

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by DCWat » Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:01 pm

nyclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:59 pm
Sean could take us down to League One and people on here would still back him.
Had he been properly backed in the transfer markets over the last two or three years, I’d probably be saying his time was up.

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:06 pm

DCWat wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:01 pm
Had he been properly backed in the transfer markets over the last two or three years, I’d probably be saying his time was up.
with our budget he perhaps should have sold some players at the top of their value in order to create a transfer kitty.
IMO he has to shoulder some responsibility for our lack of transfer activity, both out and in.

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by DCWat » Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:08 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:06 pm
with our budget he perhaps should have sold some players at the top of their value in order to create a transfer kitty.
IMO he has to shoulder some responsibility for our lack of transfer activity, both out and in.
I don’t disagree with that - I’m not convinced he’s shown much flexibility in that respect. He’s certainly not the wheeler dealer type.

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Re: Sack Dyche now

Post by RVclaret » Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:08 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:06 pm
with our budget he perhaps should have sold some players at the top of their value in order to create a transfer kitty.
IMO he has to shoulder some responsibility for our lack of transfer activity, both out and in.
Plus how many players will have turned us down due to style of play. Happened with Christie from Celtic in the summer who chose the Championship over us. Why would a creative, attacking player come when all their flair gets sucked out of them.
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