I thought it was a pretty decent performance.

[KRBFC]

You have distanced yourself from your Silva comments in the past when it suits and criticised others for bringing it up. You are now referring to Silva - again when it suits - because of your agenda. Let's see how they get on if they get promoted because comparing the Championship to the Premier League is like comparing apples with oranges. You have demonstrated over the years your football nous or lack of it.

That's not quite true, I saw something in him clearly, it's taken time for him to find the right club at the right time, I thought he shouldn't have threw in the towel at Watford. Everton he started well, on a hiding to nothing with their squad and fan expectation though, poisoned chalice as all have found since Moyes. As for lack of nous, that's just rubbish ain't it.

[bfcjg]

Last part of the BBC's report on the match fair sums it up.
Dyche can only hope the Weghorst and Cornet combination eventually click into gear as the lack of goals is a clear threat to their five-year stay in the top flight.

In patches, both looked decent, without truly getting on top of the Watford backline.

And Burnley's hopes were not helped by repeatedly gifting their opponents possession with poor passing under minimal pressure.

Mee was particularly wasteful, which was not the way he would have wanted to mark a decade of outstanding service.

He came perilously close to turning the ball into his own goal and was relieved that first, Aaron Lennon stopped the ball, before his central defensive partner Tarkowski cleared it.

Substitute Jay Rodriguez steered a header wide of the far post in the latter stages, although by then, it appeared both sides had settled for a point.

[ClaretPete001]

Not sure about that, no idea on the relevance, he hasn't been there 3 years.

You've been talking about Fulham...

[Silkyskills1]

Absolutely no doubt whatsoever that last night's game was dictated by the weather. We didn't play well but for someone to suggest that once inside Turf Moor we were somehow 'cushioned' from the elements is pathetic. The combination of rain and driving wind throughout the game and getting worse in the second half was as bad as anything I can recall in over 60 years of going on the Turf. Some posts have suggested they've encountered worse and so I'll ask the question again as to where and when?

[Jakubclaret]

Absolutely no doubt whatsoever that last night's game was dictated by the weather. We didn't play well but for someone to suggest that once inside Turf Moor we were somehow 'cushioned' from the elements is pathetic. The combination of rain and driving wind throughout the game and getting worse in the second half was as bad as anything I can recall in over 60 years of going on the Turf. Some posts have suggested they've encountered worse and so I'll ask the question again as to where and when?

I said/meant more cushioned as opposed to an exposed field or somewhere out in the open, make no bones last night was bad everywhere.

[Indecisive]

One of those games where if we weren’t in the position we were in, we would just look at it and say… ‘decent point considering the atrocious conditions’.

Tuesday night I would actually take these conditions as a preference…. but last night not so much.

[CrosspoolClarets]

Last night was full of extenuating circumstances.

The weather was the kind that pundits tend to say guarenteed a turgid stalemate.
Cornet had to adapt from Cameroon to that.
Weghorst had his first game at that level of physicality (even Bayern don’t defend that physically).
Roberts had his first home league start.
Stephens was parachuted into a midfield two.
Watford had a new manager bounce.
The fans were well up for it after two months without a game and the atmosphere changed gradually throughout when it became a struggle.

So when we adjust for all that I am quite pleased with a point even though with a little more craft we would have had three.

I get a little frustrated when our more creative players don’t create anything of note (Dwight constantly jogging back to his own half with the ball for example before trying a trick in the wrong area that loses the ball). But by and large they did OK considering the above. It makes the Dyche Out thread ridiculous.

[quoonbeatz]

I said/meant more cushioned as opposed to an exposed field or somewhere out in the open, make no bones last night was bad everywhere.

A ground like ours can actually make the wind worse.

[blackburnturfite]

Agree with most of that, my opinion altho desperate for points, we have been playing reasonably well as of late, except for what counts putting the ball in the back of the net, yesterday with those conditions it was a lottery, i would put that performance on the back burner, we know on his day Cornet can score goals, and even though in my opinion Wout Weghorst put a decent shift in, it wasn,t the kind of day to impress his new employers and supporters alike. move on.

[Jakubclaret]

A ground like ours can actually make the wind worse.

I’m not sure but if there’s science behind that fair enough, then again what does science matter it doesn’t with certain posters regarding mask wearing, in terms of being less exposed I’d rather be in a football stadium encircled than in a wide open field but if the science suggests I’m wrong I can’t argue,

[MACCA]

I was just the negative one 4 years ago calling for Marco Silva I'd swap places with Fulham right now in an instance, no questions asked.

I'm sure some don't actually watch or understand football.

Their lives must be very dull if they think watching Burnley is fun or entertaining.

[taio]

I said/meant more cushioned as opposed to an exposed field or somewhere out in the open, make no bones last night was bad everywhere.

I imagine playing football anywhere outside in Burnley last night would've been difficult. Harder to do it effectively than posting letters.

[Jakubclaret]

I imagine playing football anywhere outside in Burnley last night would've been difficult. Harder to do it effectively than posting letters.

People still manage do things effectively without blaming the weather, in Hertfordshire it must be dry & sunny all the time & that mindset carries itself geographically even when the reality is far different.

[quoonbeatz]

Lol.

[Jakubclaret]

making weather excuses is just buying your head in the sand though, we're shite, wake up.

Just having a look on the Watford forum them southern softies aren’t half making a song & dance about the weather as much as we are, odd comments about it being crap, most of it humble honesty that they know the team are lousy & going down.

[taio]

Just having a look on the Watford forum them southern softies aren’t half making a song & dance about the weather as much as we are, odd comments about it being crap, most of it humble honesty that they know the team are lousy & going down.

Because there were many more Burnley than Watford supporters at the game last night who experienced the weather. Those like you who watched it on the tele wouldn't have got a true sense of the difficult conditions especially a couple of hundred miles away.

[Jakubclaret]

Because there were many more Burnley than Watford supporters at the game last night who experienced the weather. Those like you who watched it on the tele wouldn't have got a true sense of the difficult conditions especially a couple of hundred miles away.

I ventured out the poor weather didn’t start at 6pm & finish at 8pm it was blowing like a banshee well before 6 & well after 8, maybe the Watford fans aren’t bothered about weather & are more honest.

[Silkyskills1]

A mixed metaphor there but more importantly if you were not on Turf Moor last night then you have no idea how difficult the weather conditions were for playing football. The pitch was good, though obviously soaked, but to compare controlling a football and passing a football(two skills vital to anyone purporting to be involved in a game.e of football) to someone's ability to deliver letters and parcels is quite frankly laughable.

[Burnleyareback2]

Decent performance, what we lacked was confidence, risk taking and for players to take responsibility- they felt the pressure of this game.

It was well into the 2nd half before anyone dared to take a player on, up u til then it was a case of passing the ball to someone else to make sure you didn’t make a mistake.

Dwight was hiding from the ball, Roberts had a good game but didn’t want to risk beating a player, Lennon eventually made an attempt and Tarks had that 1 run forward.

I remain hopeful that we will go into the next 2 homes games with a little less pressure

[Jakubclaret]

Watford never seemed to have a problem with things, I find it strange how 1 set (some) are blaming it on the weather & 1 set are hardly mentioning it & being honest.

[taio]

Watford never seemed to have a problem with things, I find it strange how 1 set (some) are blaming it on the weather & 1 set are hardly mentioning it & being honest.

Watford weren't good either and found it difficult because of the conditions too. As already explained the vast majority of Watford fans weren't at the game and we nowhere near Burnley.

Hodgson: "I was aware of the wind and rain because of how it was affecting the game"

[Spijed]

I ventured out the poor weather didn’t start at 6pm & finish at 8pm it was blowing like a banshee well before 6 & well after 8, maybe the Watford fans aren’t bothered about weather & are more honest.

I thought you said you lived in the North East, in Durham?

[KRBFC]

Watford weren't good either and found it difficult because of the conditions too. As already explained the vast majority of Watford fans weren't at the game and we nowhere near Burnley.

Hodgson: "I was aware of the wind and rain because of how it was affecting the game"

You're saying it like we'd have played better without the wind, there's absolutely nothing to back up that, refer to Norwich at home and Newcastle away. Stephens didn't give the ball to Watford in our final third because of the wind, It's desperately clutching at straws.

[Silkyskills1]

Watford never seemed to have a problem with things, I find it strange how 1 set (some) are blaming it on the weather & 1 set are hardly mentioning it & being honest.

Of course Watford had problems with the elements. Anyone trying to play football in those conditions would. Their manager admitted it was a problem. There was little difference, if any, between trying to play football in an open field and trying the same in the 'cushioned' environment that was Turf Moor last night.

[MACCA]

Of course Watford had problems with the elements. Anyone trying to play football in those conditions would. Their manager admitted it was a problem. There was little difference, if any, between trying to play football in an open field and trying the same in the 'cushioned' environment that was Turf Moor last night.

Watford had the same problems as us, however they dealt with it better.

Pope was the busier goalkeeper

I thing Hodgson could have been in goal for Watford yesterday.

The issue isn't the weather its our lack of creating any real chances.
I csn than of our last real created goal

[taio]

You're saying it like we'd have played better without the wind, there's absolutely nothing to back up that, refer to Norwich at home and Newcastle away. Stephens didn't give the ball to Watford in our final third because of the wind, It's desperately clutching at straws.

Im saying the conditions adversely affected the game without any doubt. We may or may not have played better without that weather. I believe we and Watford would whereas you will think the opposite. Neither of us know.

[KRBFC]

Im saying the conditions adversely affected the game without any doubt. We may or may not have played better without that weather. I believe we and Watford would whereas you will think the opposite. Neither of us know.

fantasy land stuff, stick to what you know... football finance, let the real experts discuss with the onfield stuff.

[Silkyskills1]

You're saying it like we'd have played better without the wind, there's absolutely nothing to back up that, refer to Norwich at home and Newcastle away. Stephens didn't give the ball to Watford in our final third because of the wind, It's desperately clutching at straws.

I have absolutely no idea how we might have played on a windless evening. Absolutely none. Not too sure what Norwich game and Newcastle game have to do with it either. We didn't play well but to imply that the appalling weather conditions didn't affect the overall quality/standard.of play is naive to say the least.

[taio]

fantasy land stuff, stick to what you know... football finance, let the real experts discuss with the onfield stuff.

What like yor utterly clueless onfield observations of Tarkowski

[KRBFC]

What like yor utterly clueless onfield observations of Tarkowski

I thought Tarkowski had an excellent game last night. He'll get exposed when he moves to a ''bigger club'' like shaky hokey cokey Michael Keane did. They aren't 1 on 1 defenders, too slow. Good in a Dyche team.

[KRBFC]

I have absolutely no idea how we might have played on a windless evening. Absolutely none. Not too sure what Norwich game and Newcastle game have to do with it either. We didn't play well but to imply that the appalling weather conditions didn't affect the overall quality/standard.of play is naive to say the least.

It's easier to pass the ball 5-10 yards in wind/rain than it is to launch it 50/60 with accuracy. We launched it

[taio]

I thought Tarkowski had an excellent game last night. He'll get exposed when he moves to a ''bigger club'' like shaky hokey cokey Michael Keane did. They aren't 1 on 1 defenders, too slow. Good in a Dyche team.

Your onfield expertise concluded recently he was an overrated lump. Great knowledge.

[KRBFC]

Your onfield expertise concluded recently he was an overrated lump. Great knowledge.

vastly overrated on here, like Keane was and he's certainly a lump, milk turns quicker. I called the Keane flop bang on, my eyes don't lie to me.

[taio]

vastly overrated on here, like Keane was and he's certainly a lump, milk turns quicker. I called the Keane flop bang on, my eyes don't lie to me.

Tarkowski has consistently showed he's one of our best players. You under rate him because of your lack of knowledge. As for Keane, he was very good for us - I couldn't give a f**k what he's done since because that doesn't change how effective he was here.

[KRBFC]

Tarkowski has consistently showed he's one of our best players. You under rate him because of your lack of knowledge. As for Keane, he was very good for us - I couldn't give a f**k what he's done since because that doesn't change how effective he was here.

Keane and Tarkowski have been good for us, they fit the system. I think Tarkowski has had a poor season by his usual standards, I also don't like him from that interview so that certainly clouds my opinion at times but clearly not all the time because I gave him an 8 for last nights performance and MOTM. He's still vastly overrated on here and he's a lump.

[taio]

Keane and Tarkowski have been good for us, they fit the system. I think Tarkowski has had a poor season by his usual standards, I also don't like him from that interview so that certainly clouds my opinion at times but clearly not all the time because I gave him an 8 for last nights performance and MOTM. He's still vastly overrated on here and he's a lump.

Pretty much every player has had a poor season by their usual standards. Doesn’t alter the fact Tarkowski has been one of our best players (or using your mentality least worst) this season. He was MOM last night and against Arsenal. You wanted him dropping based on your onfield expert knowledge that only you recognises.

[Jakubclaret]

Watford weren't good either and found it difficult because of the conditions too. As already explained the vast majority of Watford fans weren't at the game and we nowhere near Burnley.

Hodgson: "I was aware of the wind and rain because of how it was affecting the game"

I was specifically referring to the away support that had made the journey.

[taio]

I was specifically referring to the away support that had made the journey.

Can you provide a link please.

[Jakubclaret]

I thought you said you lived in the North East, in Durham?

I move about a lot.

[KRBFC]

Pretty much every player has had a poor season by their usual standards. Doesn’t alter the fact Tarkowski has been one of our best players (or using your mentality least worst) this season. He was MOM last night and against Arsenal. You wanted him dropping based on your onfield expert knowledge that only you recognises.

Collins is the future and has been very impressive this season when called upon, we've seen Tarkowski give up goal after goal this season. I see no issue with looking to the future

[Jakubclaret]

Can you provide a link please.

Just have a look on the Watford forum in particular the thread from last night, I’m not posting every single post that’s on there.

https://wfcforums.com/index.php?threads ... 022.58969/

[Silkyskills1]

Passing a ball 5/10 yards or 50/60 yards was affected by the dreadful conditions. I'm not defending our overall limp performance but I am seeing extenuating circumstances last night. I have and will hopefully continue to see games in all sorts of weather conditions, it's part of the 'draw' of the game for me but last nights' was pushing the boundaries of what is for me, acceptable.
I'm still waiting for the games those posters have stated they've seen played in worse conditions. Any takers?

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Passing a ball 5/10 yards or 50/60 yards was affected by the dreadful conditions. I'm not defending our overall limp performance but I am seeing extenuating circumstances last night. I have and will hopefully continue to see games in all sorts of weather conditions, it's part of the 'draw' of the game for me but last nights' was pushing the boundaries of what is for me, acceptable.
I'm still waiting for the games those posters have stated they've seen played in worse conditions. Any takers?

The only one that springs to mind is Hull away when Deary scored the winner but pretty sure that was just torrential rain and it didn’t have the gale force winds like last night.

[Jakubclaret]

Passing a ball 5/10 yards or 50/60 yards was affected by the dreadful conditions. I'm not defending our overall limp performance but I am seeing extenuating circumstances last night. I have and will hopefully continue to see games in all sorts of weather conditions, it's part of the 'draw' of the game for me but last nights' was pushing the boundaries of what is for me, acceptable.
I'm still waiting for the games those posters have stated they've seen played in worse conditions. Any takers?

Pretty much every winter Scottish highland game will be somewhere around.

[Silkyskills1]

Pretty much every winter Scottish highland game will be somewhere around.

I'm talking football matches in this country and watched by people on this board. Stop being obtuse.

[taio]

Just have a look on the Watford forum in particular the thread from last night, I’m not posting every single post that’s on there.

https://wfcforums.com/index.php?threads ... 022.58969/

So plenty of posts saying we and they were shite. Several references to the bad conditions. Few if any from their supporters who were at the game but didn't comment on the weather.

[Jakubclaret]

I'm talking football matches in this country and watched by people on this board. Stop being obtuse.

The officials passed it & deemed it safe to go ahead.

[SouthLondonexile]

On the plus side our defending was solid enough.
The negative part for me was seeing so many passes go astray with the ball finding more often than not opposition players .
We lost our best opportunity to beat Watford on the 15th December 2021.

[Spijed]

I move about a lot.

You've just provided the answer I was looking for. Thanks for that.

[Devils_Advocate]

and as for Beliend, you can go and **** yourself.I posted my opinion on the fans messageboard, I am entitled to express my view on one game aren't I ? who the **** do you think you are ?