Will the D of Y ever see inside a courtroom?

[HahaYeah]

Looks like the prison cameras will be on the blink soon.

[Spijed]

What can anyone do though if the Queen doesn't agree to Prince Andrew being sent over to the States?

[dsr]

If I was being pursued through a civil court for a criminal offence in America, whether guilty or innocent, I'd be pretty desperate to avoid it too. There's no need to prove guilt or innocence, the jury (not the judge) decides the case on balance of probabilities and/or their own prejudices as appropriate. And damages can be more than Prince Andrew could pay.

[Bordeauxclaret]

What can anyone do though if the Queen doesn't agree to Prince Andrew being sent over to the States?

Treat her as they would anyone else who stands in the way of justice?

[GodIsADeeJay81]

https://twitter.com/RoyalFamily/status/ ... x-srg&s=19

Ummmm...... this is interesting.

[bfcjg]

Hope he comes of the civil list as well and mummy stops bailing him out, just what does a waster like him actually offer to society ? Imagine him at the Job centre looking for a vacancy that pays £10,000,000 PA with free travel and accommodation for dressing up in military uniforms, cutting ribbons, opening things and going to "events" .

[Silkyskills1]

I really hope he does. An obnoxious individual.

[elwaclaret]

He will, he has returned his titles, that removes the Queen’s involvement and his immunity from prosecution. He is a civilian.. a Fitzroy type, no different in law to you or me.

[Lowbankclaret]

If he had apologised privately and given her a few quid, he could be prancing around on a horse in military honours.

Instead he tried another route, which has backfired spectacularly.

[Boss Hogg]

Hope he comes of the civil list as well and mummy stops bailing him out, just what does a waster like him actually offer to society ? Imagine him at the Job centre looking for a vacancy that pays £10,000,000 PA with free travel and accommodation for dressing up in military uniforms, cutting ribbons, opening things and going to "events" .

Is t this what most of the Royal Family do ? Some of the hangers on just sell the stories to OK/Hello etc to commercialise it.

[AlargeClaret]

Why didn’t he just fess up and pay her off , his mum could of subbed him surely . He’s almost impossible to warm to , but let’s face it he’s getting royally shafted ( pun intended )

[ClaretMov]

Why didn’t he just fess up and pay her off , his mum could of subbed him surely . He’s almost impossible to warm to , but let’s face it he’s getting royally shafted ( pun intended )

He's offered her 10 million to drop the case, she declined and says she wants her day in court

[TheFamilyCat]

He's gone to the right man for tips on lying

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[AlargeClaret]

He's offered her 10 million to drop the case, she declined and says she wants her day in court

He’s probs offered her far less ,though totally impossible to know . It’s the lawyers who are greedily feasting at this buffet .She can count herself incredibly lucky not to be in jail herself as one of Maxwell/Eps main facilitators.

[minnieclaret]

The Grand old Duke of York he had ten thousand men and it didn’t make the papers. One 17yo female and you never hear the last of it.

[bfcjg]

Just imagine the conversation " ten million ! TEN MILLION last time I just bought you Barbie and helped you with your homework "

[FCBurnley]

Big blow to the Monarchy and the credibility of the UK. What a knob

[tiger76]

I wonder if Andy is sweating yet? And why do I feel there's more to be revealed about other major public figures and this sordid scandal.

[JohnMcGreal]

Big blow to the Monarchy and the credibility of the UK.

[bfcjg]

Big blow to the Monarchy and the credibility of the UK. What a knob

Have you seen it ?

[DCWat]

[Wile E Coyote]

the poor can't afford legal representation in many cases, but his wealth and status will ensure his case is swept aside without much effort. Disgrace really. so what if he loses a few titles, money and being part of the establishment has its benefits.

[Billy Balfour]

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[Burnley Ace]

the poor can't afford legal representation in many cases, but his wealth and status will ensure his case is swept aside without much effort. Disgrace really. so what if he loses a few titles, money and being part of the establishment has its benefits.

The poor qualify for Legal Aid, it’s the middle class that can’t afford it.

[timshorts]

The poor qualify for Legal Aid, it’s the middle class that can’t afford it.

It's a civil action.

[conyoviejo]

Looks like he is more into Teddy bears ..bless him

[evensteadiereddie]

We should set up an inquiry, preferably with someone "fearless" at the helm, a former employee perhaps. They could offer their verdict to Andrew who would have final say on what happens next.
Justice will then be done...

[ElectroClaret]

Breaking...BBC...DoY and Virginia Giuffre reach "settlement in principle." No further details.

Looks like he's gonna dodge it, if true.

[ElectroClaret]

Amount of settlement not disclosed, PA to pay a "substantial" amount to Miss Giuffre's victims charity.

[Billy Balfour]

At least he can now take some solace in the fact that he no longer has a good reputation to trash.

[Billy Balfour]

And you can bet the settlement has a Nonce Disclosure Agreement built into it.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLpkD_EXEAI ... name=small

[evensteadiereddie]

Amount of settlement not disclosed, PA to pay a "substantial" amount to Miss Giuffre's victims charity.

[ElectroClaret]

Well, he ain't gonna be wearing a suit with arrows on it.
That's probably his main concern.

[NottsClaret]

Good job the taxpayer keeps funding this lot, or he wouldn't have been able to afford this hush money. Makes you proud.

[Billy Balfour]

Odd though, isn't it. He's handing over cash to a woman he says he can't remember meeting.

[jedi_master]

I find these ‘settlements’ so odd. I am totally unsure how they’re allowed, but it essentially makes rich people be able to get away with sex trafficking/rape (alleged…) and worse simply on account of their richness - and it’s an open ‘secret’ that the world just accepts.

Why is it this way? Why is it allowed? Why do the authorities not have the authority to say “Erm, well yeah, you can give her money, but…we’re still obviously going to cross examine you in court as quite obviously you’re guilty as ****?”.

Blows my mind.

[NewClaret]

I was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt and judge based on the case, but a settlement very much suggests his guilt to me. In which case I’d have preferred to see him face justice rather than pay his way out of it.

[claretblue]

where does he get the settlement money from?

[ClaretMov]

Insult to all trafficked girl's and women, both Randy Andy and Miss Giuffre's should be ashamed

[Burnley Ace]

Odd though, isn't it. He's handing over cash to a woman he says he can't remember meeting.

Would you risk the American courts?

[Burnley Ace]

I find these ‘settlements’ so odd. I am totally unsure how they’re allowed, but it essentially makes rich people be able to get away with sex trafficking/rape (alleged…) and worse simply on account of their richness - and it’s an open ‘secret’ that the world just accepts.

Why is it this way? Why is it allowed? Why do the authorities not have the authority to say “Erm, well yeah, you can give her money, but…we’re still obviously going to cross examine you in court as quite obviously you’re guilty as ****?”.

Blows my mind.

It’s a civil trial where the only outcome is “compensation”. What does this case have to do with the “authorities”? They aren’t involved.

[superdimitri]

She already got a settlement before; I very much doubt she even cares about any other cause other than herself.

[Billy Balfour]

Sigh. It was always going to involve money - it's what civil courts are for. Remember, 98% of lawsuits in USA end this way.

[Woodleyclaret]

He's settled out of court using our money to pay her off.

[Billy Balfour]

Would you risk the American courts?

Well, he was the one banging on about having his day in court. Never met her. Don’t remember the photograph. I was in pizza express in Woking. I can’t sweat. I demand a trial by jury. Here’s a big pile of money.

[claret wizard]

where does he get the settlement money from?

He sold his ski chalet in Europe for £18m.

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... iss-chalet

The reason the authorities don’t pursue this is because the burden of proof required in a criminal prosecution is much higher than in a civil case.

Interesting news earlier about the “photo” which the Duke’s legal team wanted to have examined to show that it had been forged. The one showing them both with the Maxwell thing. Seems no one has the original, just the digital versions. I think that is what forced a settlement as they could have lost the case entirely. No win, no fee, legal team recommended the option that sees them paid. No smoke without fire though and hopefully we’ll never hear about Randy Andy again.

[Lowbankclaret]

She already got a settlement before; I very much doubt she even cares about any other cause other than herself.

I think she might feel she got a judgement in the eyes of the public.

[FCBurnley]

This was never going to court. Follow the money

[pushpinpussy]

i think people need to be very careful before making slanderous comments on here. nobody really knows the true facts so stop spreading false rumours and making childish idiotic comments