ARTICLE: A Director’s Tale

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:46 am

New book from davet (rodleydave) on the way

See link
https://www.uptheclarets.com/a-directors-tale

lakesider · Post by **lakesider** » Tue Feb 15, 2022 12:48 pm

Looking forward to this one!

BurnleyMickSouth · Post by **BurnleyMickSouth** » Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:00 pm

I remember those days very well, it wasnt John Bond we needed it was James Bond 007, a few years later didnt Bond disguise himself as a Steward when we played Shrewsbury at there place, due to the support we took there.....what a kn0b he was, big man he thought, nearly ruined the club with his spending and bringing in ex Man City players. I shall be getting this book when it comes out, should be a good read, warts n all,

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ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:02 pm

BurnleyMickSouth wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:00 pm
I remember those days very well, it wasnt John Bond we needed it was James Bond 007, a few years later didnt Bond disguise himself as a Steward when we played Shrewsbury at there place, due to the support we took there.....what a kn0b he was, big man he thought, nearly ruined the club with his spending and bringing in ex Man City players. I shall be getting this book when it comes out, should be a good read, warts n all, .

I think you will be sadly disappointed if that’s your view of Bond.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:32 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:46 am
New book from davet (rodleydave) on the way

See link
https://www.uptheclarets.com/a-directors-tale

That's a book I MUST have. Dave Thomas writes really good stuff anyway, and with a proper juicy story like this one - I can hardly wait.

Anyone know if it will be available from the club shop?

Rodleydave · Post by **Rodleydave** » Tue Feb 15, 2022 3:46 pm

yep twill be int club shop.

Rodleydave · Post by **Rodleydave** » Tue Feb 15, 2022 3:47 pm

Juicy? Definitely meaty.

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Wed Feb 16, 2022 4:08 pm

yes, looking forward to this one.

BurnleyBob · Post by **BurnleyBob** » Wed Feb 16, 2022 5:00 pm

I have always felt that the team that went down at the end of the 1982-83 season was relegated in part because we
had played 58 games that season with the two cup runs. We quite possibly would have stayed up if we had been knocked out
of both competitions early on. There were some really decent players in that team but by the end of the season they were worn out.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Feb 16, 2022 5:06 pm

BurnleyBob wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 16, 2022 5:00 pm
I have always felt that the team that went down at the end of the 1982-83 season was relegated in part because we
had played 58 games that season with the two cup runs. We quite possibly would have stayed up if we had been knocked out
of both competitions early on. There were some really decent players in that team but by the end of the season they were worn out.

That team was all but relegated long before the FA Cup got underway - after winning two and drawing one of the first three we won two of the next 18 games and by then we were in serious trouble from which we couldn't recover.

CleggHall · Post by **CleggHall** » Wed Feb 16, 2022 5:29 pm

I met Dennis Tueart at a Newcastle Utd function a few years ago, he said he was a bit embarrassed by his performances at Burnley, just one of the Bond Man City boys!

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:23 pm

Ordered it the other day.
Should be a good read.

Herts Clarets · Post by **Herts Clarets** » Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:34 pm

Playing most of the season with 2 midfielders at centre half and a past it Stevenson in goal were 2 of the main factors in our 1983 relegation.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:47 pm

Herts Clarets wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:34 pm
Playing most of the season with 2 midfielders at centre half and a past it Stevenson in goal were 2 of the main factors in our 1983 relegation.

Stevenson was only 31/32 that season but had gone. He cost us time and again that season. Micky Phelan would have been fine at the back alongside Vince Overson but with Vince injured for virtually the whole season it was crazy to partner Micky with Dobbo in a back four, worsened with two full backs who were at their best attacking.

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Wed Feb 16, 2022 8:31 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:47 pm
Stevenson was only 31/32 that season but had gone. He cost us time and again that season. Micky Phelan would have been fine at the back alongside Vince Overson but with Vince injured for virtually the whole season it was crazy to partner Micky with Dobbo in a back four, worsened with two full backs who were at their best attacking.

This site would have had a field day in the summer of 1982, we just didn't strengthen.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Feb 16, 2022 8:35 pm

Wokingclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 16, 2022 8:31 pm
This site would have had a field day in the summer of 1982, we just didn't strengthen.

Not one signing and stepping up a division. And this despite Brian Miller having players lined up. We paid the price.

Rumpelstiltskin · Post by **Rumpelstiltskin** » Wed Feb 16, 2022 8:43 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 16, 2022 8:35 pm
Not one signing and stepping up a division. And this despite Brian Miller having players lined up. We paid the price.

I think Danny Wilson was lined up to replace Tommy Cassidy in central midfield but it didn’t happen.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Feb 16, 2022 8:44 pm

Rumpelstiltskin wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 16, 2022 8:43 pm
I think Danny Wilson was lined up to replace Tommy Cassidy in central midfield but it didn’t happen.

Danny Wilson (Chesterfield)
Glenn Cockerill (Lincoln)
John Aldridge (Newport)

And early season
Peter Reid ( Bolton)

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:03 pm

I can certainly recall John Bond wearing a yellow Fluoro jacket at Gay Meadow. And he wasn't sat near the bench.

Whether he had disguised himself as a steward, only he will know.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:14 pm

dougcollins wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:03 pm
I can certainly recall John Bond wearing a yellow Fluoro jacket at Gay Meadow. And he wasn't sat near the bench.

Whether he had disguised himself as a steward, only he will know.

I always wonder whether that really happened. No one saw him and it all came out a day or two later.

Herts Clarets · Post by **Herts Clarets** » Wed Feb 16, 2022 10:46 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:14 pm
I always wonder whether that really happened. No one saw him and it all came out a day or two later.

A very grainy photo of someone wearing a hi viz jacket with a hood up. Could have been John, James or indeed Basildon Bond.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:02 pm

Really looking forward to this book Dave, sounds great. Before my time so it will be really interesting to dive into that era of the club.

Perfect timing too, a few days before we go to Florida - will hammer it on the flight!

Herts Clarets · Post by **Herts Clarets** » Thu Feb 17, 2022 8:31 am

I am looking forward to this one. I suspect that the villain(s) in this tale will not be the obvious character.....

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:07 am

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 16, 2022 8:44 pm
Danny Wilson (Chesterfield)
Glenn Cockerill (Lincoln)
John Aldridge (Newport)

And early season
Peter Reid ( Bolton)

So what happened Tony, chairman Jackson refused to splash the cash?

RammyClaret61 · Post by **RammyClaret61** » Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:14 am

The following 2 seasons were probably the worst ever. With Benson followed by Buchan, then Cavanagh. Holy crap it was sh1te.

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:15 am

RammyClaret61 wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:14 am
The following 2 seasons were probably the worst ever. With Benson followed by Buchan, then Cavanagh. Holy crap it was sh1te.

[Shudder]

groove · Post by **groove** » Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:22 am

Always interesting when Bond's name comes up. He's a lot of people's scapegoat for our demise in the 80's. Unfairly and unjustified I think. Looking forward to to reading this book about the club and this time in particular. My first full season watching us was the 83/84 season.

CleggHall · Post by **CleggHall** » Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:05 am

Yes but whatever is going on at a football club the manager gets it in the neck, the 1st Law of Football!
Bond is no exception to this, it appears.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:06 am

gawthorpe_view wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:07 am
So what happened Tony, chairman Jackson refused to splash the cash?

We'll never know but I got those names from the horse's mouth

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:08 am

RammyClaret61 wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:14 am
The following 2 seasons were probably the worst ever. With Benson followed by Buchan, then Cavanagh. Holy crap it was sh1te.

You have to wonder just how on earth Benson managed to take us down when he had such as Micky Phelan, Vince Overson, Kevin Hird, Tommy Hutchison, Wayne Biggins, Alan Taylor in his squad. It led to those seven dark years at the bottom which started with the next two awful appointments Buchan and Cavanagh.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:12 am

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:08 am
You have to wonder just how on earth Benson managed to take us down when he had such as Micky Phelan, Vince Overson, Kevin Hird, Tommy Hutchison, Wayne Biggins, Alan Taylor in his squad. It led to those seven dark years at the bottom which started with the next two awful appointments Buchan and Cavanagh.

It's surprising and shocking how a bad manager can create an awful team with good players but it's evidently possible.

Glen Roeder managed to relegate a West Ham team with the following players at his disposal:

David James
Don Hutchinson
Lee Bowyer
Michael Carrick
Trevor Sinclair
Jermaine Defoe
Paolo Di Canio
Frederic Kanoute
Joe Cole
Glen Johnson
Anton Ferdinand

That side should have been pushing the top four but he got them sent down.

Herts Clarets · Post by **Herts Clarets** » Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:01 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:08 am
You have to wonder just how on earth Benson managed to take us down when he had such as Micky Phelan, Vince Overson, Kevin Hird, Tommy Hutchison, Wayne Biggins, Alan Taylor in his squad. It led to those seven dark years at the bottom which started with the next two awful appointments Buchan and Cavanagh.

Roger Hansbury.....

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:26 pm

Herts Clarets wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:01 pm
Roger Hansbury.....

He’d played in the previous season though. I know you think he’s the worst we’ve had

ClaretPete001 · Post by **ClaretPete001** » Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:33 pm

Rowls wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:12 am
It's surprising and shocking how a bad manager can create an awful team with good players but it's evidently possible.

Glen Roeder managed to relegate a West Ham team with the following players at his disposal:

David James
Don Hutchinson
Lee Bowyer
Michael Carrick
Trevor Sinclair
Jermaine Defoe
Paolo Di Canio
Frederic Kanoute
Joe Cole
Glen Johnson
Anton Ferdinand

That side should have been pushing the top four but he got them sent down.

Funnily enough Trevor SInclair was on Talksport saying that the players asked for Roeder to be the manager because he was popular with the squad.

I remember the 70s vividly but my memories of 81 to 85 are shot. I was in my mid to late teens during that period, and like many others in the town had a waning interest in the club, albeit mine was an alcohol fuelled haziness until Leyton Orient when we kind of had a collective awakening. Or that's how it seemed to me.

groove · Post by **groove** » Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:43 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 16, 2022 8:44 pm
Danny Wilson (Chesterfield)
Glenn Cockerill (Lincoln)
John Aldridge (Newport)

And early season
Peter Reid ( Bolton)

Wow they would have been great signings. I remember Bond tried to sign Alan Birch from Chesterfield, good player at that level. Chesterfield messed us around with Bond vowing never to do business with them again.

Herts Clarets · Post by **Herts Clarets** » Thu Feb 17, 2022 2:05 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:26 pm
He’d played in the previous season though. I know you think he’s the worst we’ve had

He's up there with the worst. We conceded 134 league goals in his 2 seasons, though Neenan played a few games in 1984/5. The first season it was masked by the prolific Hamilton & Reeves forward line, something we didn't have in his second season. Clearly he was not the only reason - the pedestrian full back pairing of Palmer and Hampton certainly didn't help the cause any.

Claret Till I Die · Post by **Claret Till I Die** » Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:49 am

Is it book launch day today?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:57 am

Claret Till I Die wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:49 am
Is it book launch day today?

It is

Claret Till I Die · Post by **Claret Till I Die** » Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:58 am

Cheers Tony, Will try to nip down for 1 hour

longsidetrumpet · Post by **longsidetrumpet** » Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:23 am

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:26 pm
He’d played in the previous season though. I know you think he’s the worst we’ve had

Roger No-Hansbury

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:17 am

Still waiting for my copy off Amazon...

Rodleydave · Post by **Rodleydave** » Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:33 am

Buxton...shoulda got one from me... £19.99 or £30 unsigned.

Rodleydave · Post by **Rodleydave** » Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:34 am

PS anyone who did order from me, posting today after i got them signed yesterday.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:47 am

Rodleydave wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:33 am
Buxton...shoulda got one from me... £19.99 or £30 unsigned.

I know, Dave.
But a couple of days before your email landed, I'd come across it to pre order on Amazon. So I did.
I'll know better next time.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:57 pm

I was privileged at the launch yesterday - I got to arrivd with football royalty, Mr & Mrs Martin & Carole Dobbo.

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:17 pm

I too am looking forward to this.

I saw a lot of matches in this period and there were some exciting times amongst a lot of doom. What of course we never really knew was what was going on in the background so this should be interesting.

It's a bit like today. People talk about the Garlic/Dyche relationship and the damage it may have caused but I hope they too have kept diaries and our esteemed author will get his hands on them in due course. I hope he doesn't wait forty years though as I'm not sure I'll be around.

Culmclaret · Post by **Culmclaret** » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:13 pm

Just ordered this. 81/82 is my favourite ever season. Gave everyone an 8 game headstart and then lost only two games, hitting top spot right at the end. That team never knew when it was beaten and played some cracking stuff. 82/83 was so frustrating . If Overson had been fit I think we would have been top half but we gave away so many soft goals: the worst being at Carlisle. The Milk Cup campaign showed what we were capable of and we beat QPR, Fulham and Newcastle in the second half of the season as well as hitting Charlton for 7, but a five game losing streak around Easter was the killer. Bond remains one of the most disproportionately maligned figures in the club’s history.

HeatonMoorClaret · Post by **HeatonMoorClaret** » Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:35 pm

It was good to see Mr Chairman at the launch yesterday. Hopefully, the take away for him was what this club means to so many. David Gill spoke passionately about his dad and his dad's love of the club and how this is being passed on through the generations ...like many families .

Culmclaret · Post by **Culmclaret** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:24 pm

Arrived this afternoon and am already about half way through 82/3. A very interesting read. A quick question as to whether anyone can confirm which match is featured in the photo on the front inside cover (apols if it appears in the text but I couldn’t see it anywhere). The best I can do is Chelsea in April ‘83. I remember they played in a pale yellow strip that day and a candidate for the player shooting is Paul Canoville, who was by far and away their best player that day, which isn’t saying much as we royally stuffed them.

Culmclaret · Post by **Culmclaret** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:46 pm

Ps. Just come across a very odd passage on p72 where Gill heavily criticises the tactics in the penultimate game of 82/83 at Leicester. He called it a ‘fiasco’ because Leicester were already promoted and in party mode and we didn’t go for the win. Actually Leicester only went up on that day as Fulham lost at Derby and even then had to wait to see whether the Fulham result would stand because the match at the Baseball Ground was abandoned after 88 minutes because of crowd trouble. Leicester very much needed a win. Also, the point at Leicester at least gave us a chance and it was a good battling performance. Just shows how the memory plays tricks maybe because he had to miss the Palace game because of a booked holiday.