Russia Invades

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:08 pm

DAVID JOYCE - Russia declares ceasefire for any foreign mercenaries and Ukrainian nationalists to surrender…. Coinciding with Hitler’s Birthday. But it is Ukraine with a fascist obsession?

https://twitter.com/davidjoyce17/status ... Eo24iVUIOw

Elbarad · Post by **Elbarad** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:58 pm

I wonder which brown and black countries they'll try to pull their next batch of cannon fodder from. I'm sure yelling 'Racist!' at Putin wouldn't have any more effect then a strongly worded letter from the UN has, but still..

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:17 pm

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/growing-numbe ... 55618.html
Perhaps he will be taken out from within.

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:34 pm

bfcjg wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:17 pm
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/growing-numbe ... 55618.html
Perhaps he will be taken out from within.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61163546

Or just wishfull thinking on our part.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:30 pm

REUTERS - Germany has not disclosed all the weaponry they have supplied to Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1516 ... gUluk0FC4A

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:32 pm

ROB LEE - the Commander of sappers/engineers announced killed in action by Russia

https://twitter.com/ralee85/status/1516 ... gUluk0FC4A

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:36 pm

ROB LEE - Ukrainian’s show off their captured Thermobaric Missile launcher

https://twitter.com/ralee85/status/1516 ... gUluk0FC4A

Elbarad · Post by **Elbarad** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:38 pm

On my standard feed I got this update today. No idea if it's truth or propaganda. But IF it's true.... it's still the firing squad for this right?

Russian troops using Ukrainian uniform attempted to seize Dovhenke village in Kharkiv region, but failed

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:41 pm

REUTERS - Latest Russian Mariupol deadline for Ukrainian surrender passes without comment.

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1516 ... gUluk0FC4A

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:43 pm

REUTERS - Russian attempted advance towards Sloviansk has been halted by Ukrainian forces

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1516 ... gUluk0FC4A

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:54 pm

OSINTtechnical - Drone footage of Ukraine targeting convoys during the buildup to the War in the East, late March early April.

https://twitter.com/osinttechnical/stat ... gUluk0FC4A

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:54 pm

Be interesting to see how this is reported from now on

I'm waiting to see the military accounts and analysis to get some idea what is going on

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:56 pm

Elbarad wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:38 pm
On my standard feed I got this update today. No idea if it's truth or propaganda. But IF it's true.... it's still the firing squad for this right?

Russian troops using Ukrainian uniform attempted to seize Dovhenke village in Kharkiv region, but failed

I would expect so, certainly used to be the difference between being considered a prisoner of war and a non military spy.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:58 pm

Russia propaganda Goes Pop!

https://twitter.com/laughing_stoic/stat ... gUluk0FC4A

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:03 pm

REUTERS: Russian Rosneft crude oil producer has asked for payment in Rubles only, falling behind Putin’s stance.

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1516 ... gUluk0FC4A

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:05 pm

OSINTtechnical - Another downed Orlan-10 is displayed by Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/osinttechnical/stat ... gUluk0FC4A

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:06 pm

NEW YORK TIMES - Finland begin parliamentary discussion with a view to NATO membership

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1516 ... gUluk0FC4A

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:12 pm

REUTERS: Germany to end Russian oil imports ‘by years end’

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1516 ... gUluk0FC4A

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:30 pm

OSINTtechnical - Large walkout of European G20 delegates today as Russia was given the floor (by telephone).

https://twitter.com/osinttechnical/stat ... gUluk0FC4A

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:33 pm

ELINT NEWS (retweet) - Unkainian Marines and Azov units supported by armoured vehicles has broken through to support Mariupol defenders.

https://twitter.com/militarylandnet/sta ... gUluk0FC4A

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:36 pm

ELINT NEWS - Russia has added 4 battalion groups to its previous force according to Pentagon officials.

https://twitter.com/jackdetsch/status/1 ... gUluk0FC4A

jos · Post by **jos** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:37 pm

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/151 ... 93952?s=21

NEXTA -Pro-Russian blogger Valery Kuleshov was killed in #Kherson under unclear circumstances.

It is reported that Kuleshov actively cooperated with the invaders and even applied for the position of chief of the occupation police of the city.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:38 pm

NEXTA - 80% of Luhansk under Russian control, Ukrainian district administrator tells CNN

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/151 ... gUluk0FC4A

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:43 pm

jos wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:37 pm
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/151 ... 93952?s=21

NEXTA -Pro-Russian blogger Valery Kuleshov was killed in #Kherson under unclear circumstances.

It is reported that Kuleshov actively cooperated with the invaders and even applied for the position of chief of the occupation police of the city.

I’d guess he was shot through his car window in a war-zone

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:18 pm

The one thing I have taken from the last two days.
Russia has tried new offensives in lots of places.
It gained just about nothing.
At this point, I think the only way Russia gains more ground in Ukraine is if they run out of western arms.

Norway says it’s sent all its surface to air missiles, no more to give.
uk has sent 4000 NLAW. I have read online only 7000 were made. Now I am sure they are flat out making more. But switching on supply chains is difficult, spent most of my life doing just that. It’s not quick process.

https://twitter.com/jimmysecuk/status/1 ... jMiEMXX3JQ

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:23 pm

Certified by photo or video. Russia has lost over 3000 pieces of kit and 524 tanks.

That’s serious losses.

I am sure they are taking serious losses with these new fronts.

jos · Post by **jos** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:23 pm

NEXTA- Indian steel company Tata Steel terminates cooperation with #Russia.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/151 ... 81389?s=21

Tata steel has a large stake in the UK steel industry.

jos · Post by **jos** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:26 pm

NEXTA - The #Norwegian authorities have decided to send #Ukraine about 100 Mistral surface-to-air missile systems.

This was reported by the Ministry of Defense of the country

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/151 ... 99618?s=21

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:28 pm

jos wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:26 pm
NEXTA - The #Norwegian authorities have decided to send #Ukraine about 100 Mistral surface-to-air missile systems.

This was reported by the Ministry of Defense of the country

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/151 ... 99618?s=21

That’s everything they have.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:28 pm

jos wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:23 pm
NEXTA- Indian steel company Tata Steel terminates cooperation with #Russia.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/151 ... 81389?s=21

Tata steel has a large stake in the UK steel industry.

Political timing… Boris Johnson there tomorrow to meet India’s leader/dictator. But welcome nonetheless.

jos · Post by **jos** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:35 pm

elwaclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:28 pm
Political timing… Boris Johnson there tomorrow to meet India’s leader/dictator. But welcome nonetheless.

Tata Steel is a multinational conglomerate, I don’t think Modi has any influence in how it’s managed.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:40 pm

Lawrence Freedman - Cracking insight into reading Russian ‘official’ terminology

https://twitter.com/lawdavf/status/1516 ... gUluk0FC4A

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:40 pm

jos wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:35 pm
Tata Steel is a multinational conglomerate, I don’t think Modi has any influence in how it’s managed.

I think that is very unlikely that the owner can ignore Modi, especially if he wants stuff to happen in India

Modi is Orban essentially

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:41 pm

Reuters - successful Ukrainians enjoying the ride to Sloviansk

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1516 ... gUluk0FC4A

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:45 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:53 pm
https://twitter.com/paulmcleary/status/ ... 2669123587

Ukraine has received aircraft and aircraft parts

US state department saying Ukraine received enough spare parts to put 20 extra aircraft in the air

I mean, lot of winking and nodding going on there I would think!

Almost certainly the Polish Migs have been successfully transferred

https://twitter.com/JackDetsch/status/1 ... 4975421440

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:56 pm

The RIDDLE - Why Russian military is still the brutal Soviet Military, completely unreformed.

https://twitter.com/riddlerussia/status ... gUluk0FC4A

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:17 pm

Former Russian (Former military Kommandant Donesk) he warned Russia, that he expected the war in the East of Ukraine to fail: Russian will lose all territory invaded. Furthermore he expect Ukraine to push into Russian territory. He published an open letter in Russia blasting Putin.

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Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:53 pm

https://twitter.com/Edmontonsun/status/ ... 5272207360

Canada sending heavy artillery as well

Great thread by Philip O'Brien on why the more artillery they get, the more of a game changer it is for the Ukrainians

https://twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/sta ... 5095949314

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:08 am

elwaclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:56 pm
I would expect so, certainly used to be the difference between being considered a prisoner of war and a non military spy.

I'm not sure how it works in the 'Rules of War', if there really are any, but it is a well known and perhaps legitimate ruse to dress up in enemy uniforms. I would guess though that you should make your enemy aware of this before opening fire and you should be wearing your own dog tags - do they still have dog tags?

This was generally the practice at sea in WW2 - the German raiders like the Komoran for example. They would raise the German flag before they opened fire.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:13 am

Hipper wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:08 am
I'm not sure how it works in the 'Rules of War', if there really are any, but it is a well known and perhaps legitimate ruse to dress up in enemy uniforms. I would guess though that you should make your enemy aware of this before opening fire and you should be wearing your own dog tags - do they still have dog tags?

This was generally the practice at sea in WW2 - the German raiders like the Komoran for example. They would raise the German flag before they opened fire.

Yes, but both sides on land in WWII shot soldiers who disguised themselves that way, pretty sure that is what will happen here.

jos · Post by **jos** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:23 am

JuliaDaviesNews-
Meanwhile on Russian state TV: hosts and panelists giggling uncontrollably, while discussing nuclear strikes against the continental territory of the United States. Can you imagine any of our prominent media anchors laughing at the idea of destroying cities?
Watch this:

https://twitter.com/juliadavisnews/stat ... 75168?s=21

They are failing to comprehend that this would guarantee the destruction of Russia.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:26 am

jos wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:23 am
JuliaDaviesNews-
Meanwhile on Russian state TV: hosts and panelists giggling uncontrollably, while discussing nuclear strikes against the continental territory of the United States. Can you imagine any of our prominent media anchors laughing at the idea of destroying cities?
Watch this:

https://twitter.com/juliadavisnews/stat ... 75168?s=21

They are failing to comprehend that this would guarantee the destruction of Russia.

All for domestic consumption

All about look how strong we are

All about trying to ignore the reality of what is happening in the, er, "Two day special military operation" in the Ukraine

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 12:35 pm

NEXTA - Putin will lose the chance to see himself in a cape, after MARVEL comics stop operations and sales in Russia

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/151 ... gpCZ60tMEQ

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 12:48 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:26 am
All for domestic consumption

All about look how strong we are

All about trying to ignore the reality of what is happening in the, er, "Two day special military operation" in the Ukraine

Also, there is no proof that their 'Heavy Weaponry" would be any more reliable than their tanks.

I know the star war project didn't come to fruition, apparently, but it makes sense that the US, and Europe, would have been working on measures designed to counter these weapons. And if they did, they aren't likely to broadcast it if they found a solution.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:30 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 21, 2022 12:48 pm
Also, there is no proof that their 'Heavy Weaponry" would be any more reliable than their tanks.

I know the star war project didn't come to fruition, apparently, but it makes sense that the US, and Europe, would have been working on measures designed to counter these weapons. And if they did, they aren't likely to broadcast it if they found a solution.

Quite agree, when the first threat of nuclear attack was muted, Biden could not suppress a grin; he quickly removed it but at the time I thought it was very telling of what we don’t know.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:49 pm

REUTERS: Putin is once again sabre rattling with his nuclear weapons, Reuters looks at the command structure that firing nukes would involve.

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1517 ... gpCZ60tMEQ

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:31 pm

As Russia continues to smash UKR cities to pieces under an almost endless bombardment of heavy ordinance, laying waste to building landscape and infastructure .Securing vast swathes of territorial and military dominance of their wanted eastern regions . Yet the west think UKR are winning . It’s a matter of time until Vlad secures his regions either by more force or UKR ceding Donbas .Vlad may have made a horse’s arse of the early stages but it was always gonna happen . A truly awful spectacle .

Elbarad · Post by **Elbarad** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:21 pm

AlargeClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:31 pm
As Russia continues to smash UKR cities to pieces under an almost endless bombardment of heavy ordinance, laying waste to building landscape and infastructure .Securing vast swathes of territorial and military dominance of their wanted eastern regions . Yet the west think UKR are winning . It’s a matter of time until Vlad secures his regions either by more force or UKR ceding Donbas .Vlad may have made a horse’s arse of the early stages but it was always gonna happen . A truly awful spectacle .

It takes one country to start a war but two to end it. Would England have ceded Kent to Hitler while the USA was still willing and able to send weapons? I’m not making a direct comparison of course on either side of the conflict but after watching the last two months I’m more and more convinced it will take much more then we have seen from Russia so far for the Ukrainians to agree to anything that involves giving up land as long as the west is willing to send support.

But yes, it would cost a lot of Ukrainian lives. But that’s their decision to make not ours.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:30 pm

Elbarad wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:21 pm
It takes one country to start a war but two to end it. Would England have ceded Kent to Hitler while the USA was still willing and able to send weapons? I’m not making a direct comparison of course on either side of the conflict but after watching the last two months I’m more and more convinced it will take much more then we have seen from Russia so far for the Ukrainians to agree to anything that involves giving up land as long as the west is willing to send support.

But yes, it would cost a lot of Ukrainian lives. But that’s their decision to make not ours.

Absolutely their decision, and the fact that more and more former Russian military commanders are calling for FAR MOVE destruction of infrastructure is as good as sign as any that Russian’s in the know are far less confident of success than their leader.

The breakthrough to Kharkiv by Ukrainian troops was a massive event yesterday, not yet confirmed by news agencies but by internal Ukraine sources, will be a massive blow to Russian aims… all they asked for was ammo and supplies, I expect that is just what they have been getting… along the elite reinforcements. Expect it will be confirmed when the position has stabilised somewhat, probably next week before we hear more on that.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:42 pm

AlargeClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:31 pm
As Russia continues to smash UKR cities to pieces under an almost endless bombardment of heavy ordinance, laying waste to building landscape and infastructure .Securing vast swathes of territorial and military dominance of their wanted eastern regions . Yet the west think UKR are winning . It’s a matter of time until Vlad secures his regions either by more force or UKR ceding Donbas .Vlad may have made a horse’s arse of the early stages but it was always gonna happen . A truly awful spectacle .

There's absolutely no way Ukraine will concede land, they've taken the heaviest punch from Russia and shook it off already.