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Re: Weghorst

Post by Burnley Ace » Mon Apr 25, 2022 11:44 am

claretburns wrote:
Mon Apr 25, 2022 11:34 am
If he had scored 2.4 goals per game he would have scored around 55 goals?
I think it’s 0.4 goals per game. Overall it’s 0.32 goals per game

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Quicknick » Mon Apr 25, 2022 11:49 am

Whatever the reason for Wood's sale and Wout's signing, I am glad it happened as Weghorst is a far better player.
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Re: Weghorst

Post by KRBFC » Mon Apr 25, 2022 11:54 am

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:49 am
Factually speaking, Wood scored 49 goals in a 149 games. A return of 3.4, which is an impressive achievement.

In 2017, he scored 10 in 24 at a rate of 2.4 goals per game to help the club achieve a seventh placed finish.

The best return a Burnley Forward has achieved in the modern era.
What is more important, scoring a goal or passing the ball across goal for your team mate to tap in?

And factually speaking, Chris Wood did not score 3.4 goals a game for Burnley lol

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Re: Weghorst

Post by ClaretPete001 » Mon Apr 25, 2022 12:25 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Apr 25, 2022 11:54 am
What is more important, scoring a goal or passing the ball across goal for your team mate to tap in?

And factually speaking, Chris Wood did not score 3.4 goals a game for Burnley lol
Posting fast on forums wtc...

Indeed 1 goal in 3.4 and 1 goal in 2.4 in 17/18. I suspect most know what I meant. Impressive stats for a forward in a team that often has less than 40 per cent possession

"What is more important, scoring a goal or passing the ball across goal for your team mate to tap in?"

What can I say? Opinions and facts!

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Re: Weghorst

Post by KRBFC » Mon Apr 25, 2022 12:55 pm

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Mon Apr 25, 2022 12:25 pm
Posting fast on forums wtc...

Indeed 1 goal in 3.4 and 1 goal in 2.4 in 17/18. I suspect most know what I meant. Impressive stats for a forward in a team that often has less than 40 per cent possession

"What is more important, scoring a goal or passing the ball across goal for your team mate to tap in?"

What can I say? Opinions and facts!
Not sure on the response, I asked a genuine question.

Which is more important, scoring a goal or passing the ball across for your team mate to score?

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Re: Weghorst

Post by ClaretPete001 » Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:53 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Apr 25, 2022 12:55 pm
Not sure on the response, I asked a genuine question.

Which is more important, scoring a goal or passing the ball across for your team mate to score?
I've cited Wood stats over 4 seasons and suggested they are impressive because they are....! Those are facts...

I would suggest, for a ball playing centre mid or number 10 assists are more important than goals.

For a centre forward goals are more important than assists.

That is my opinion, and I would suggest the opinion of most people but I haven't got any evidence to back that up...!

Weghorst has been at the club since January and scored 2 in 15 and had an assist every 5 games but it's early days.

However, my point is that if you want to make the case for Weghorst you have to deal with the facts, which are that Wood has been the best Centre Forward at the club, in terms of effectiveness and impact, for decades. And he has done it over 4 seasons.

Would Chris Wood make a better number 10 or second striker than Weghorst probably not...!

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Re: Weghorst

Post by RVclaret » Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:00 pm

Here’s a stat!

Weghorst recorded 57 pressures - the most a single player has made in a Premier League match this season.

What a shift from the big man.
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Re: Weghorst

Post by Steve1956 » Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:57 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:00 pm
Here’s a stat!

Weghorst recorded 57 pressures - the most a single player has made in a Premier League match this season.

What a shift from the big man.
People on this thread saying he was poor yesterday can't have been watching the game ...like I said in my original post I though he was magnificent yesterday,and he will only get better which ever division we find ourselves in.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by KRBFC » Mon Apr 25, 2022 3:49 pm

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:53 pm
I've cited Wood stats over 4 seasons and suggested they are impressive because they are....! Those are facts...

I would suggest, for a ball playing centre mid or number 10 assists are more important than goals.

For a centre forward goals are more important than assists.

That is my opinion, and I would suggest the opinion of most people but I haven't got any evidence to back that up...!

Weghorst has been at the club since January and scored 2 in 15 and had an assist every 5 games but it's early days.

However, my point is that if you want to make the case for Weghorst you have to deal with the facts, which are that Wood has been the best Centre Forward at the club, in terms of effectiveness and impact, for decades. And he has done it over 4 seasons.

Would Chris Wood make a better number 10 or second striker than Weghorst probably not...!
I wasn't even making the Wout comparison but since you did, it's kinda unfair to compare Wood and Wout in different Burnley teams. Wood played in a team that finished 7th in the PL and moulded to play to Wood's strength, if we are doing a comparison, I think the fairest one is this season, when both played in the same team, with the same players.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by evensteadiereddie » Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:01 pm

There was quite an interesting exchange between Tarks and Weghorst in the second half yesterday.
Brownhill, I think poked a pass to Wout who made a bit of a mess of it.
Brownhill yelled at him, Weghorst yelled back and Tarky intervened with a bit of finger-wagging, either geeing Wout up or telling him to stfu and concentrate.
Either way, great passion from the lads, excellent leadership from Tarks.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by warksclaret » Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:18 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:00 pm
Here’s a stat!

Weghorst recorded 57 pressures - the most a single player has made in a Premier League match this season.

What a shift from the big man.
Thats amazing-thats what can lift the whole team-someone running their butt off for the benefit of the other 11

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Re: Weghorst

Post by burnleymik » Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:18 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:00 pm
Here’s a stat!

Weghorst recorded 57 pressures - the most a single player has made in a Premier League match this season.

What a shift from the big man.
Yep, as above, it was a hell of a shift:
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Re: Weghorst

Post by NewClaret » Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:21 pm

No wonder he was dead on his feet at the end.

Thank you Wout!

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Apr 27, 2022 7:47 pm

Looks like PSV are showing an interest in Weghorst this summer

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Apr 27, 2022 8:34 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Apr 27, 2022 7:47 pm
Looks like PSV are showing an interest in Weghorst this summer
Do the Dutch clubs sign many players for over 10m?

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Re: Weghorst

Post by NRC » Wed Apr 27, 2022 8:35 pm

what's further impressive about that pressure map is how spread across the entire field they are. You'd expect that of a midfielder setting the season-long record, not a forward

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Apr 27, 2022 8:44 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed Apr 27, 2022 8:34 pm
Do the Dutch clubs sign many players for over 10m?
There has been 9 transfers in Dutch football history over 10m.

However the three most recent have been players moving from the premier league to the Dutch league.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:08 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Apr 27, 2022 8:44 pm
There has been 9 transfers in Dutch football history over 10m.

However the three most recent have been players moving from the premier league to the Dutch league.
Have they got a better TV deal now or just owners putting a few Bob in?

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Stockbrokerbelt » Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:17 pm

Again a story with no real fact behind it, it came from an exPSV player who said they should try to get him on loan when Burnley are relegated.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Bullabill » Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:15 am

warksclaret wrote:
Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:18 pm
Thats amazing-thats what can lift the whole team-someone running their butt off for the benefit of the other 11
And with twelve on the pitch we have a real chance of staying up.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:18 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:08 pm
Have they got a better TV deal now or just owners putting a few Bob in?
If I’m honest I have no idea. I assume owners putting a bit in

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu Apr 28, 2022 1:49 pm

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:53 pm
I've cited Wood stats over 4 seasons and suggested they are impressive because they are....! Those are facts...

I would suggest, for a ball playing centre mid or number 10 assists are more important than goals.

For a centre forward goals are more important than assists.

That is my opinion, and I would suggest the opinion of most people but I haven't got any evidence to back that up...!

Weghorst has been at the club since January and scored 2 in 15 and had an assist every 5 games but it's early days.

However, my point is that if you want to make the case for Weghorst you have to deal with the facts, which are that Wood has been the best Centre Forward at the club, in terms of effectiveness and impact, for decades. And he has done it over 4 seasons.

Would Chris Wood make a better number 10 or second striker than Weghorst probably not...!
Dyche ball played to Wood's strength, it doesn't play to Wouts.
We need to continue playing the style of the last 3 games, even if we get relegated anyway. Wout will come into his own when we play to HIS strengths.
It's so important that we stay up, not for the usual reasons of wanting to stay in the prem, but because relegation could undermine the strides forward we have made in the last 2 windows. I can only see good things going forward, IF we can only manage to keep this roll going.
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Re: Weghorst

Post by superdimitri » Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:00 pm

A good striker can pick a pass and shoot. Far too predictable if they go for goal every time.

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