Wout Weghorst

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:20 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:19 pm
Has someone accused Wout of being a stoned brothel owner?
While wearing clogs and waving a tulip.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Thomasyoung » Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:21 pm

He’s not fit to tie woody woodpeckers shoelacers from a clued up mag.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Elizabeth » Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:24 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:16 pm
Couldn’t agree more. No idea what his nationality has to do with anything but not a surprise to see people going down the lazy stereotype route.
There must be a reason you are agreeing with me Riley , maybe you are not familiar with the term ' playing the race card'

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Raconteur » Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:27 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:15 pm
You can't even put a sentence together, you're using a full stop all wrong.
I absolutely agree, my punctuation is awful Kev.
Luckily this is a football forum and not school.

You know they chat sh*t when they come back with the Vocab and Punctuation rubbish

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Rileybobs » Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:32 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:24 pm
There must be a reason you are agreeing with me Riley , maybe you are not familiar with the term ' playing the race card'
Yeah I’m familiar with it but it’s usually just used by numbskulls as a retort to people calling out racism. I was agreeing with your point about why someone would bring Weghorst’s race (I should really have said nationality) into the discussion with regards his attitude. Because that person wasn’t me.

I genuinely don’t want to take this thread off topic. I just think that particularly at a time when there is a focus on the club due to one of our stands being named after someone who held anti semitic views, it isn’t a good look to read lazy stereotypes about someone due to their nationality.

It’s not a big deal, I’m sure nobody is offended, but it’s just symptomatic of the casual racism which I often read on here so thought I’d point it out, because I don’t think some people even know when they’re doing it.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:35 pm

I don't wish to have a go at Weghorst, but if he wants out then fair enough.
For what it's worth: i think he tried his guts out early on and was influential.
Perhaps he just couldn't sustain that level of output.
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by KRBFC » Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:35 pm

Raconteur wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:27 pm
I absolutely agree, my punctuation is awful Kev.
Luckily this is a football forum and not school.

You know they chat sh*t when they come back with the Vocab and Punctuation rubbish
Who the **** is Kev?

I just can't take anything you type seriously when you're using a full stop instead of a comma, it's something you learn in primary school. It's natural for anyone without sh*t for brains.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Elizabeth » Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:45 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:32 pm
Yeah I’m familiar with it but it’s usually just used by numbskulls as a retort to people calling out racism. I was agreeing with your point about why someone would bring Weghorst’s race (I should really have said nationality) into the discussion with regards his attitude. Because that person wasn’t me.

I genuinely don’t want to take this thread off topic. I just think that particularly at a time when there is a focus on the club due to one of our stands being named after someone who held anti semitic views, it isn’t a good look to read lazy stereotypes about someone due to their nationality.

It’s not a big deal, I’m sure nobody is offended, but it’s just symptomatic of the casual racism which I often read on here so thought I’d point it out, because I don’t think some people even know when they’re doing it.
Ooh, nasty.

Let me give you the opinion of people like myself trying hard to fight racism in the community. We are fed up with uneducated people undermining our hard work by agitating situations at every opportunity

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Raconteur » Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:46 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:35 pm
Who the **** is Kev?

I just can't take anything you type seriously when you're using a full stop instead of a comma, it's something you learn in primary school. It's natural for anyone without sh*t for brains.
Who is Kev?

I haven't got a clue. Stick with your punctuation fetishism.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Papabendi » Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:46 pm

maybe Weghorst was in his comfort zone - if he said that, would it set uptheclarets on fire?

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by fidelcastro » Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:47 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:45 pm
Ooh, nasty.

Let me give you the opinion of people like myself trying hard to fight racism in the community. We are fed up with uneducated people undermining our hard work by agitating situations at every opportunity
What is nasty about Rileybob's response?

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by clive40golf » Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:48 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 7:47 pm
Great to see that not even this thread is safe from the racial stereotypes.
Not sure how to respond to that really.
I used to spend several weeks a year, visiting my brother who lived in several parts of the Netherlands, playing golf and having several Dutch friends, who all racially stereotype different nationalities. British are “cloutsakkers” Germans “Drittons” ect. I think every nation stereotype other nations, some more harsher than others.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by fidelcastro » Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:52 pm

clive40golf wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:48 pm
Not sure how to respond to that really.
I used to spend several weeks a year, visiting my brother who lived in several parts of the Netherlands, playing golf and having several Dutch friends, who all racially stereotype different nationalities. British are “cloutsakkers” Germans “Drittons” ect. I think every nation stereotype other nations, some more harsher than others.
No idea what those terms mean without looking them up, so I've no clue whether they'd be deemed offensive or not, but claiming that Weghorst's faults are down to the fact he's Dutch is beyond stupid.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Elizabeth » Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:56 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:47 pm
What is nasty about Rileybob's response?
If you must make a contribution I suggest you digest the argument first. Sorry you need to be told what motivates that poster

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by superdimitri » Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:56 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 7:55 pm
He turned out to be a bad signing despite him getting the advantage of a decent start to his Burnley career. He most definitely is not an upgrade on Wood. That was just an initial illusion.

The player clearly thinks he is a better player than what most of us have seen. The sooner we get rid the better in my opinion.

Watched Roberts reaction in the Holland game and thought good on him. Hopefully that's an indication that he is going to give it everything next season to get us back on the up again
This is why I said most people, not all. In my opinion he's a lot better than Wood. But I don't care to debate, we will agree to disagree.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by fidelcastro » Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:58 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:56 pm
If you must make a contribution I suggest you digest the argument first. Sorry you need to be told what motivates that poster
Oh, I've followed the conversation, and I still don't see where he's been nasty.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Rileybobs » Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:59 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:52 pm
…but claiming that Weghorst's faults are down to the fact he's Dutch is beyond stupid.
That’s what I was getting at, but used too many words to get there. But some people will just look to get offended by anything.
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by claretinkorea » Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:03 pm

ebby wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 3:52 pm
He’s Dutch. What more do I need to say, they are all well balanced: they have a chip on either shoulder.
Classic, pick a characteristic to splat across 17 million people you've never met. Sound like you are well informed. No better than the people outside of the UK calling all Brits drunken hooligans... Irritates me no end when people don't judge individuals on their own merits.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Elizabeth » Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:04 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:58 pm
Oh, I've followed the conversation, and I still don't see where he's been nasty.
He'll be pleased about that then

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by fidelcastro » Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:04 pm

claretinkorea wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:03 pm
Classic, pick a characteristic to splat across 17 million people you've never met. Sound like you are well informed. No better than the people outside of the UK calling all Brits drunken hooligans... Irritates me no end when people don't judge individuals on their own merits.
Exactly. I never discriminate. I hate everyone equally.
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Elizabeth » Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:05 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:59 pm
That’s what I was getting at, but used too many words to get there. But some people will just look to get offended by anything.
Irony at its finest

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by fidelcastro » Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:05 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:04 pm
He'll be pleased about that then
You've lost me.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Elizabeth » Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:10 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:05 pm
You've lost me.
That was never going to be difficult

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by fidelcastro » Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:11 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:10 pm
That was never going to be difficult
Oh, how I yearn for the day I'm as intelligent as you.

:lol:

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by ksrclaret » Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:11 pm

Another thread down the bog.

Pathetic bickering. What drivel.
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by fidelcastro » Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:14 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:11 pm
Another thread down the bog.

Pathetic bickering. What drivel.
And the blame lies at the door of those seeking to defend casual racism and lazy stereotypes.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:28 pm

You know why the Dutch are a tall race of people, it's because their country is susceptible to flooding.

Evolution it's called, and I think we should get David Attenborough on it as Charles Darwin is dead.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Raconteur » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:03 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:11 pm
Another thread down the bog.

Pathetic bickering. What drivel.
Agreed. I've been guilty on this post of pointlessly starting a argument with KRBFC. I've just been p***ed off reading crap. So from discussing the Wout/Roberts incident I've ended up name calling and almost being taught when it is a good time to use the Oxford comma.

I apologise for this and will try to stick with the football

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Thomasyoung » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:05 pm

He’s not good enough to tie woody woodpeckers laces.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by clive40golf » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:35 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:52 pm
No idea what those terms mean without looking them up, so I've no clue whether they'd be deemed offensive or not, but claiming that Weghorst's faults are down to the fact he's Dutch is beyond stupid.
Yes they can be deemed offensive, but I suppose it’s a Dutch humour trait, a very straightforward comparison humour. 99% of the Dutch people I’ve met are lovely people but they do have a different way of looking at things. It’s not racist or stupid to mention that Most Dutch people look at failure different to how the British people do . They have a strong self belief, a positive view of themselves, if something goes wrong on the sports field or golf course it’s more likely that they will think it’s anything but them or their ability.
Not to worry though, I’ll keep the stiff upper lip that most British people have……. Wait a moment!!!

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:46 pm

Wout now saying he might come back to Burnley if we regain our premier league spot but he won’t be playing for us in the championship next season. What a guy!
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:52 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:46 pm
Wout now saying he might come back to Burnley if we regain our premier league spot but he won’t be playing for us in the championship next season. What a guy!
I’m not sure that would go down well with the squad or the fans

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by IanMcL » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:55 pm

Let's just see what happens.
He did his best.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Thomasyoung » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:57 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:32 pm
Yeah I’m familiar with it but it’s usually just used by numbskulls as a retort to people calling out racism. I was agreeing with your point about why someone would bring Weghorst’s race (I should really have said nationality) into the discussion with regards his attitude. Because that person wasn’t me.

I genuinely don’t want to take this thread off topic. I just think that particularly at a time when there is a focus on the club due to one of our stands being named after someone who held anti semitic views, it isn’t a good look to read lazy stereotypes about someone due to their nationality.

It’s not a big deal, I’m sure nobody is offended, but it’s just symptomatic of the casual racism which I often read on here so thought I’d point it out, because I don’t think some people even know when they’re doing it.
Stop being so sensitive petal.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Conroy92 » Thu Jun 09, 2022 11:00 pm

Honestly, I defended Wout when he came, I think he has a better all around game than Wood. He's proved he's struggled to be effective though, albeit in a team and system that hasn't suited him. He doesn't look quick or strong enough for premier league level. I remember an interview before Dyche left where he said about Wout needing to concentrate on his own game or words to that effect. Then there was the moment he was subbed, the wording around him not playing in the championship and then this liking of a blackburn rovers page (Is he on a wind up). None of it fills me with the confidence he is a "good apple" within the camp.
Needs to go permanently.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by tiger76 » Thu Jun 09, 2022 11:57 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:46 pm
Wout now saying he might come back to Burnley if we regain our premier league spot but he won’t be playing for us in the championship next season. What a guy!
Yes really committed chap ain't he, I wish him well wherever he ends up next season, but surely he's played his last game for Burnley.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by fidelcastro » Fri Jun 10, 2022 12:07 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:46 pm
Wout now saying he might come back to Burnley if we regain our premier league spot but he won’t be playing for us in the championship next season. What a guy!
Has he actually said that?

If he has then we'll be well shut.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Jun 10, 2022 12:20 am

any danger of getting back on topic ffs

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Bullabill » Fri Jun 10, 2022 3:36 am

Isn't it just possible that his contract has it that he would not be required to play in the Championship? That he would be allowed to play elsewhere on loan until we return to the Prem? - Unusual, yes, but it might have been the only way Mr.Pace could get his signature.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Jun 10, 2022 3:46 am

fidelcastro wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:04 pm
Exactly. I never discriminate. I hate everyone equally.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by pushpinpussy » Fri Jun 10, 2022 6:41 am

to all those on here that were keep calling out for us to sign some foreign talent. this is what happens. a player not suited to our style and who is obviously very unpopular with the other players and already wants to quit. Dyche was right to go with what he knew. That's my issue with VK now if he signs. We are going into the unknown yet again. Stick to what we know best and we will be fine.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Venkys4eva » Fri Jun 10, 2022 6:55 am

pushpinpussy wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 6:41 am
That's my issue with VK now if he signs. We are going into the unknown yet again. Stick to what we know best and we will be fine.
We are a local club for local people there's nothing for you here ... :roll:
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Pearcey » Fri Jun 10, 2022 6:57 am

pushpinpussy wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 6:41 am
to all those on here that were keep calling out for us to sign some foreign talent. this is what happens. a player not suited to our style and who is obviously very unpopular with the other players and already wants to quit. Dyche was right to go with what he knew. That's my issue with VK now if he signs. We are going into the unknown yet again. Stick to what we know best and we will be fine.
Defour, Pieters, Wood, Cornet, JBG, Vydra. Yeah, let’s stay away from those foreign types eh.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by joey13 » Fri Jun 10, 2022 7:18 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:46 pm
Wout now saying he might come back to Burnley if we regain our premier league spot but he won’t be playing for us in the championship next season. What a guy!
Legend in the making

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Jun 10, 2022 7:36 am

I think someone like Trippier or Pope might just have got away with comments like that, not that they’d ever make them, but a guy who’s been here six months?

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Jun 10, 2022 7:36 am

I've thought about it and I think both Robert and Weghorst were right

Roberts was right to have a go, he's a very proud Welshman and would have been gutted to concede after getting back into it, and it was almost certainly heat of the moment stuff

Weghorst was right to say its nothing to do with Burnley, he's playing for his national team (which he clearly loves) and was delighted to score a goal

Course, I don't think Weghorst is helping his cause at all at the moment with what he's coming out with the press!

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Jun 10, 2022 7:37 am

pushpinpussy wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 6:41 am
to all those on here that were keep calling out for us to sign some foreign talent. this is what happens. a player not suited to our style and who is obviously very unpopular with the other players and already wants to quit. Dyche was right to go with what he knew. That's my issue with VK now if he signs. We are going into the unknown yet again. Stick to what we know best and we will be fine.
Well, he's saying the quiet bit very loud I suppose
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by beddie » Fri Jun 10, 2022 7:56 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:46 pm
Wout now saying he might come back to Burnley if we regain our premier league spot but he won’t be playing for us in the championship next season. What a guy!
If we’re lucky enough to come back up I’m pretty sure we’ll be looking at far better players than Wout.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by RVclaret » Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:52 am

https://www.burnleyexpress.net/sport/fo ... ey-3726581

More comments from WW on his desire to not play for us in the Championship.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by deanothedino » Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:09 am

ngsobob wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:43 am
If Weghorst and Cornet are examples of the technical assessment ability of our owners, there must be a problem with their algorithm. Does it include character?
What has Cornet done wrong?

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