Summer 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[DCWat]

The problem is we're now lumbered with 3 ageing average central midfielders and 2 poor old strikers. Blocking the progression of our youth teamers, blocking further incomings. Can't say I'm all that excited to see a Brownhill Cork and Rodriguez Barnes core, all over again.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want to see all of them regularly starting together, but I do think that they’ll all have something to offer.

[boatshed bill]

The problem is we're now lumbered with 3 ageing average central midfielders and 2 poor old strikers. Blocking the progression of our youth teamers, blocking further incomings. Can't say I'm all that excited to see a Brownhill Cork and Rodriguez Barnes core, all over again.

I think Brownhill will be excellent this season, but I get your point about ageing strikers.
No chance Barnes and Rodriguez will start together.
Westwood won't start the season, and neither (I think) will Vydra,
Maybe we'll see a blend of youth and experience.

Exciting Times!!

[KRBFC]

I'm sorry mate but to add Brownhill to your statement is just wrong. I get feeling your going off tv and stats rather than watching a football game live, if not I am Struggling

What does he do? gets caught out of position high up the pitch doing nothing. His set pieces are awful, he doesn't score goals, doesn't create anything, doesn't control the game with his passing, struggles with the basics. He runs around alot, good for a cheap foul.

One of the reasons we were relegated is the drop off of Cork and Westwood meant Brownhill played too many games. I remember Leeds away, every time Leeds got the ball they were on the counter attack with Brownhill playing like an ineffective striker. Zero brain, a good player would realise in that moment to sit in and try get a foot hold in midfield.

[TsarBomba]

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want to see all of them regularly starting together, but I do think that they’ll all have something to offer.

Absolutely.

And it’s a bloody long season is the Championship, too. I think we’ve forgotten that.

If we’re chasing a game with 20 to go, give me Barnes and his antics any day of the week.

[Burnley Ace]

Been through this many times already. Every other club in the league that may be an option have signed a keeper or close to signing a keeper.

Forest? There are also a number of other clubs that Pooe would be an upgrade.

[AwayClaret]

Please stop feeding the obvious trolls then they'll get bored and hopefully fack off.

[RVclaret]

What does he do? gets caught out of position high up the pitch doing nothing. His set pieces are awful, he doesn't score goals, doesn't create anything, doesn't control the game with his passing, struggles with the basics. He runs around alot, good for a cheap foul.

One of the reasons we were relegated is the drop off of Cork and Westwood meant Brownhill played too many games. I remember Leeds away, every time Leeds got the ball they were on the counter attack with Brownhill playing like an ineffective striker. Zero brain, a good player would realise in that moment to sit in and try get a foot hold in midfield.

You are really miles off it these days aren’t you.

Brownhill didn’t even play at Leeds away.

[NewClaret]

Assuming Vyds is injured for the start of the season, not resigning JRod and Barnes would’ve left us with no strikers. I also think their experience and personalities will be important in the dressing room. There’s more to a players value than what we see on the pitch.

Both score goals at this level but I’m not sure either will be starting.

[Bordeauxclaret]

You are really miles off it these days aren’t you.

Brownhill didn’t even play at Leeds away.

Classic.

[boatshed bill]

Interesting thing about Vydra:
Before we signed him there was plenty of video of him picking up the ball deep and running at defences, also taking shots from distance.
That's not how we used him

[KRBFC]

Assuming Vyds is injured for the start of the season, not resigning JRod and Barnes would’ve left us with no strikers. I also think their experience and personalities will be important in the dressing room. There’s more to a players value than what we see on the pitch.

Both score goals at this level but I’m not sure either will be starting.

Richardson + 2 new, resign Barnes for a year. I'd be happy with that 4.

Instead I fear we're gonna end up with Rodriguez, Barnes, Vydra, Richardson.

How many strikers do Championship teams carry? 4? we we've got 3 (maybe 4 if Vydra stays) already.

[burnleymik]

What does he do? gets caught out of position high up the pitch doing nothing. His set pieces are awful, he doesn't score goals, doesn't create anything, doesn't control the game with his passing, struggles with the basics. He runs around alot, good for a cheap foul.

One of the reasons we were relegated is the drop off of Cork and Westwood meant Brownhill played too many games. I remember Leeds away, every time Leeds got the ball they were on the counter attack with Brownhill playing like an ineffective striker. Zero brain, a good player would realise in that moment to sit in and try get a foot hold in midfield.

[KRBFC]

Brownhill reminds me of James O'Connor. Bang average, can't even do the basics.

[burnleymik]

Brownhill reminds me of James O'Connor. Bang average, can't even do the basics.

Maybe you are remembering like you remembered how poorly he played away at Leeds, your specific example of how poor he was....

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[KlyBfc]

Not sure it’s an asset strip as much as the inevitable consequence of relegation this time around. Last time we went down our two biggest assets went for absolute peanuts (ings and trips). J Shak thought he was better than us and went to Derby. However nobody was realistically in for the others as we had only been in the prem for that one season and so they were generally championship players (Mee was a very average left back at this point). This time we have players who have spent some or all of the last 6 years at the top table, with 2 top ten finishes. Those players were never going to accept playing in the championship the same way as the previous lot did.

[KlyBfc]

Maybe you are remembering like you remembered how poorly he played away at Leeds, your specific example of how poor he was....

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I thought I must have been really really drunk as I could have sworn it was Westwood and Cork that were horrendous v Leeds due to JB getting covid. You have just put me at ease

[DCWat]

There were a few signs from Brownhill that he could be a decent player. In the main, I’ve been disappointed with him though I wouldn’t write him off just yet, especially in the league below and presumably playing a very different role.

[burnleymik]

Interesting thing about Vydra:
Before we signed him there was plenty of video of him picking up the ball deep and running at defences, also taking shots from distance.
That's not how we used him

I imagine a number of our players are better than they get credit for, due to the system that was previously played and the tactical focus. It might take a little time, but I think we will see far more from players like Mcneil (if we keep him), Cork, Westwood, Brownhill and as you say, maybe utilise more what Vydra can actually do, if it's not already too late, given all his injury problems.

[gandhisflipflop]

There were a few signs from Brownhill that he could be a decent player. In the main, I’ve been disappointed with him though I wouldn’t write him off just yet, especially in the league below and presumably playing a very different role.

I think he will be a revelation under Kompany.

[Newcastleclaret93]

The problem is we're now lumbered with 3 ageing average central midfielders and 2 poor old strikers. Blocking the progression of our youth teamers, blocking further incomings. Can't say I'm all that excited to see a Brownhill Cork and Rodriguez Barnes core, all over again.

I agree to an extent I think we needed to keep at least a couple of the experience. For example if Barnes was staying due to a clause then I can’t understand why we kept Rodriguez.

I have expect us to try shift Brownhill on this summer. Can’t see where he fits in Kompanys team and we already know he’s knowhere near good enough for the Prem.

I can understand keeping cork because of westwoods injury.

[Newcastleclaret93]

There were a few signs from Brownhill that he could be a decent player. In the main, I’ve been disappointed with him though I wouldn’t write him off just yet, especially in the league below and presumably playing a very different role.

Probs do an alright job in the championship. Miles off being a prem quality player.

[KRBFC]

I agree to an extent I think we needed to keep at least a couple of the experience. For example if Barnes was staying due to a clause then I can’t understand why we kept Rodriguez.

I have expect us to try shift Brownhill on this summer. Can’t see where he fits in Kompanys team and we already know he’s knowhere near good enough for the Prem.

I can understand keeping cork because of westwoods injury.

I think Brownhill is the first thing we've ever agreed on

[Burnley1989]

Personally think Brownhill will be fine this season, I think he's a steady player

you forget he was probably playing in the toughest position in our squad with the way we set up and play, and generally against teams best players

[Newcastleclaret93]

I think Brownhill is the first thing we've ever agreed on

Perhaps so.

I’ve been saying it for ages. He’s a good grafter but for me he hasn’t got any of the abilities that Kompany wants in a CM.

[Rileybobs]

Perhaps so.

I’ve been saying it for ages. He’s a good grafter but for me he hasn’t got any of the abilities that Kompany wants in a CM.

How do you know?

[Newcastleclaret93]

How do you know?

Look at Anderlecht, there CMs were the complete opposite of Brownhill.

Players that were good on the ball and creative.

[Swizzlestick]

It’s no real surprise the two biggest gobshites on the message board think getting rid of the CM whose attributes would be absolutely ideal in the Championship is somehow a good thing.

[RVclaret]

Perhaps so.

I’ve been saying it for ages. He’s a good grafter but for me he hasn’t got any of the abilities that Kompany wants in a CM.

Pace, dynamism and energy are exactly what Brownhill has. Notably he played better last year when he had more technical players around him in Weghorst, Jay, Cornet, Jay and Cork. Takes the reliance on him to dominate a game with his ball play, he’s not that type. I’m pretty sure he’ll be a big player for VK and shine a bit more at this level, where the drop off in quality is quite substantial.

[Rileybobs]

Look at Anderlecht, there CMs were the complete opposite of Brownhill.

Players that were good on the ball and creative.

We’re not Anderlecht. Why do people think he’s going to create exactly the same side that he had at Anderlecht? We have different players and play in a different league. If he was so happy with the ability of his previous team he wouldn’t have left. You’re just talking absolute b0llocks again, it’s beyond tiresome.

[Newcastleclaret93]

We’re not Anderlecht. Why do people think he’s going to create exactly the same side that he had at Anderlecht? We have different players and play in a different league. If he was so happy with the ability of his previous team he wouldn’t have left. You’re just talking absolute b0llocks again, it’s beyond tiresome.

The ex Anderlecht player the other day said that his teams are set up this way and he doesn’t change his ethos.

He also said that this is his strength and weakness he’s like Pep he believes in his mantra.

So unless he’s suddenly going to change I suspect it will be exactly what he is going to do.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Pace, dynamism and energy are exactly what Brownhill has. Notably he played better last year when he had more technical players around him in Weghorst, Jay, Cornet, Jay and Cork. Takes the reliance on him to dominate a game with his ball play, he’s not that type. I’m pretty sure he’ll be a big player for VK and shine a bit more at this level, where the drop off in quality is quite substantial.

We are getting linked with CMs I suspect it will be Brownhill that makes way.

[Rileybobs]

The ex Anderlecht player the other day said that his teams are set up this way and he doesn’t change his ethos.

He also said that this is his strength and weakness he’s like Pep he believes in his mantra.

So unless he’s suddenly going to change I suspect it will be exactly what he is going to do.

Well he’s going to have to change because he’s inherited an entirely different squad of players. This idea that our 1-11 next season will be exactly the same mould of player position for position is ridiculous.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Well he’s going to have to change because he’s inherited an entirely different squad of players. This idea that our 1-11 next season will be exactly the same mould of player position for position is ridiculous.

Like I said unless Kompany is going to change his mantra then I suspect you will be shocked.

Nearly everything I have read about Kompany says that he believes in his set up and mantra, that he is not willing to change for anything. One of the reasons he had fallen out with the owners.

[TsarBomba]

https://twitter.com/s_f_g2020/status/15 ... zyXTm9ajXA

Random Twitter account has us linked with Plymouth keeper Michael Cooper.

[Juan Tanamera]

Like I said unless Kompany is going to change his mantra then I suspect you will be shocked.

Nearly everything I have read about Kompany says that he believes in his set up and mantra, that he is not willing to change for anything. One of the reasons he had fallen out with the owners.

So are you saying the first Burnley team that Kompany puts out will be an exact replica of the last team he put out at Anderlecht?

[Newcastleclaret93]

So are you saying the first Burnley team that Kompany puts will be an exact replica of the last team he put out at Anderlecht?

Tactics and mantra yes I suspect so.

[Rileybobs]

So are you saying the first Burnley team that Kompany puts will be an exact replica of the last team he put out at Anderlecht?

D’ur, obviously. Can’t you read. He believes in his mantra.

[Juan Tanamera]

Tactics and mantra yes I suspect so.

I haven't heard the word 'balderdash' used in quite a while, so here it is......
Balderdash!

[Newcastleclaret93]

I haven't heard the word 'balderdash' used in quite a while, so here it is......
Balderdash!

Haha ok. I’m sure he will set us up completely different to Anderlecht keep thinking that.

[randomclaret2]

https://twitter.com/s_f_g2020/status/15 ... zyXTm9ajXA

Random Twitter account has us linked with Plymouth keeper Michael Cooper.

Never heard of him

[Juan Tanamera]

Haha ok. I’m sure he will set us up completely different to Anderlecht keep thinking that.

Oh I'll keep thinking that for sure.
You just carry on thinking that with a completely different set of players everything will remain the same.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Oh I'll keep thinking that for sure.
You just carry on thinking that with a completely different set of players everything will remain the same.

Genuine question how many of the players left do you think will actually feature for the Kompany first team?

I suspect Roberts, Taylor, Collins (if he’s here), McNeil and Possibly Cork.

I suspect by the first game of the season the rest of his starting eleven will be new players.

So yes he will play the same set up as he did at Anderlecht.

[Jimmymaccer]

I think he will be a revelation under Kompany.

Agree……. Let’s be realistic……..championship ……….exciting times!

[Vegas Claret]

I think i'll take a few days off from here

[Juan Tanamera]

Genuine question how many of the players left do you think will actually feature for the Kompany first team?

I suspect Roberts, Taylor, Collins (if he’s here), McNeil and Possibly Cork.

I suspect by the first game of the season the rest of his starting eleven will be new players.

So yes he will play the same set up as he did at Anderlecht.

Have you actually told Vincent Kompany this, just in case he has other ideas?

[Newcastleclaret93]

Have you actually told Vincent Kompany this, just in case he has other ideas?

[jedi_master]

I’m surprised anyone thinks Brownhill won’t be a certain starter for us in the Championship. Kompany may well play a style of football that suits Josh better than under Dyche to be honest - he strikes me more as someone who wants to play on the front foot and press. In any case, none of us really understand Kompany’s style of football or tactical requirements yet, how can we? We can read and watch what happened at Anderlecht, but have no idea if he’s going to pursue the exact same setup here. He may well have learned from his perceived failings at Anderlecht to adopt a slightly altered style to what he is ‘known’ for (and our personnel may govern that).

Do I think he’s perfect? No, none of our players are. Do I think he’s a Premier League standard player? Debatable, but he’s no more or less so than the vast majority of our squad. He’s a grafter and on his previous stint at this level was widely regarded as a standout player at Bristol City. I’m more concerned about keeping him than whether we should drop him personally.

[KRBFC]

Perhaps so.

I’ve been saying it for ages. He’s a good grafter but for me he hasn’t got any of the abilities that Kompany wants in a CM.

You were very early on the Brownhill is rubbish stuff, took me some time to come around but you were right, runs around like a headless chicken without the quality required.

[warksclaret]

I am hoping VK can develop several players, who to quote Chris Wood may be in their "comfort zone". Maybe Josh or Dwight. For me thats the sign of a good manager. Dyche did it with Heaton, Arfield, Barton, Barnes, Jones, McNeil and several others

[CharlieinNewMexico]

You were very early on the Brownhill is rubbish stuff, took me some time to come around but you were right, runs around like a headless chicken without the quality required.

You two are just having a conversation with each other now