Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:35 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:33 pm
You’ve been saying all summer so far that he’s guaranteed to be off?

Also I doubt we’ll accept a loan, surely we need the cash.

Just that Nixon posts suggests that’s what Everton are pushing for.

I was hoping with the sale of Collins we might be able to keep him

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:36 pm

taio wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:35 pm
What makes you suggest it might be on loan? Surely not.

Nixon saying Everton are pushing for a Play now Pay later deal.

So basically a loan with an obligation to buy

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:36 pm

taio wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:35 pm
What makes you suggest it might be on loan? Surely not.

Nixon did a piece saying Everton want to ‘buy now, pay later’, suggesting a staged cash payment for the deal, or even a loan with a guaranteed buy at the end.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:37 pm

This was exactly what was said

‘Clarets want close to £18 million for the Ivory Coast international but they may be willing to take the cash in stages and even delayed payments.

There is even the possibility that Cornet goes on loan to Goodison with a guaranteed buy if they stay up.

The chance to play in the Premier League again appeals to Cornet and Everton are currently the only club willing to meet the valuation - on their payment plan.’

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:41 pm

I'm fine with Cornet going, but I hope we replace him with a proper asset, like O'Hare or this Delap lad on a permanent deal.

taio · Post by **taio** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:41 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:36 pm
Nixon did a piece saying Everton want to ‘buy now, pay later’, suggesting a staged cash payment for the deal, or even a loan with a guaranteed buy at the end.

A staged cash payment is not a loan.

Claretnick · Post by **Claretnick** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:41 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:37 pm
This was exactly what was said

‘Clarets want close to £18 million for the Ivory Coast international but they may be willing to take the cash in stages and even delayed payments.

There is even the possibility that Cornet goes on loan to Goodison with a guaranteed buy if they stay up.

The chance to play in the Premier League again appeals to Cornet and Everton are currently the only club willing to meet the valuation - on their payment plan.’

Frankly Everton can go and **** themselves.....pay the release clause or forget it!

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:41 pm

Everton supposedly came within a day of breaching FFP based on the 3-year cycle required of it. Only by selling Richarlison the day they did did they escape. A loan with an obligation to buy in the next financial year makes total sense for them. Gives them a year to get organised. As we appear not to have cash flow problems it doesn't make a huge amount of difference when we get paid.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:42 pm

If Alan is the hard-nosed businessman that’s he purported to be, he’ll tell those corrupt scouse ******* where to go.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:43 pm

taio wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:41 pm
A staged cash payment is not a loan.

Agree but if you check his quote above he mentioned ‘even a loan’

Claretnick · Post by **Claretnick** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:43 pm

Spiral wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:41 pm
Everton supposedly came within a day of breaching FFP based on the 3-year cycle required of it. Only by selling Richarlison the day they did did they escape. A loan with an obligation to buy in the next financial year makes total sense for them. Gives them a year to get organised.

Sorry but why should we give them a year to get organised?

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:44 pm

Selling him is bad enough, but I accept it. However agreeing to Everton's terms of a possible loan and obligation to buy shows our desperation.Who the hell is negotiating on our behalf

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:45 pm

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:44 pm
Selling him is bad enough, but I accept it. However agreeing to Everton's terms of a possible loan and obligation to buy shows our desperation.Who the hell is negotiating on our behalf

No one has said it’s been accepted.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:46 pm

Claretnick wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:43 pm
Sorry but why should we give them a year to get organised?

Because they sign a contract saying they'll pay us £18m in full next summer.

We might find, if there isn't interest in him from elsewhere, that it makes more financial sense than keeping him on a large wage for potentially another 4 years.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:46 pm

Kompany full quote on Cornet

‘I don't know close it is, it is no secret there is a couple of clubs in for him and a couple of clubs have made good offers. We have to prepare probably for a period after him and that is what we are doing.
I am not saying Maxwel has gone, he has offers.‘

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:47 pm

Claretnick wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:43 pm
Sorry but why should we give them a year to get organised?

It's not that we need to help Everton out, it's that if they are the only suitor and we are ready to sell Cornet, both for the sake of turning a profit and being able to commit to further expenditure, and for the player's sake as well considering we're not standing in anyone's way, it makes sense to make the mechanics of the deal agreeable to Everton.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:47 pm

Also said he thinks O’Hare is a great player and would be great for us

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:48 pm

Claretnick wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:43 pm
Sorry but why should we give them a year to get organised?

Because the fee is generally payed over the length of the contract anyway, it’s all for the books, will likely make little difference to us

TsarBomba · Post by **TsarBomba** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:51 pm

https://twitter.com/alexjamessport/stat ... b32XOlYbPg

Lancs Live with a blog.

Kompany comments on both Cornet and O’Hare.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:53 pm

We could maybe get a loan fee from Everton for this season followed by the full release clause value next summer meaning we end up getting more money out of Everton in total which could work out better for us

thomaspaine · Post by **thomaspaine** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:29 pm

If it means by losing Cornet we get O’Hare and Delap …… yes please ……

Claret Alfie · Post by **Claret Alfie** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:32 pm

Quite a few people on Twitter saying we’ve agreed a fee for O’Hare.

PremierLeagueClass · Post by **PremierLeagueClass** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:32 pm

Come on RVclaret we’re back and there’s two days worth of rumours to catch up on!

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:36 pm

thomaspaine wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:29 pm
If it means by losing Cornet we get O’Hare and Delap …… yes please ……

Losing Cornet OK if we get paid up front but not a bloody loan to buy deal

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:36 pm

Claret Alfie wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:32 pm
Quite a few people on Twitter saying we’ve agreed a fee for O’Hare.

Well, no one remotely official, and of course it gets retweeted by every Cov and Burnley fan

Hope its true like!

Guitargeorge · Post by **Guitargeorge** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:36 pm

Sounds like Everton are paying for Cornet, but not all at once

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:36 pm

How about this?
We loan him for a season so Everton cover his wages.
Next summer they pay no less than £18m, or we get him back?

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:39 pm

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Granny WeatherWax · Post by **Granny WeatherWax** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:44 pm

Bosscat wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:39 pm
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There’s so much to pick apart with that nonsense tweet I’d be here until the board next goes down.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:51 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:44 pm
There’s so much to pick apart with that nonsense tweet I’d be here until the board next goes down.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:01 pm

Seen a few posts about Ohare signing tomorrow. Toning official though

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:18 pm

The Coventry fan Twitter accounts are resigned to losing him now, fee ranging from £8m-£12m depending which tweet you read

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:22 pm

Has anyone seen this O'Hare lad play? Is he any good?

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:23 pm

Rowls wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:22 pm
Has anyone seen this O'Hare lad play? Is he any good?

Looks very good at linking midfield and attack. Very creative and a good dribbler but his finishing and final ball looks like it needs a bit of work from the videos I have watched. Still young though so could be a very good player for us

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:23 pm

Also heard on Friday that Muric was at Gawthorpe last week.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:25 pm

claptrappers_union wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:18 pm
The Coventry fan Twitter accounts are resigned to losing him now, fee ranging from £8m-£12m depending which tweet you read

I know sod all about him, is he a decent player and would such a high value (if true) be fair?

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:26 pm

Sounds like we could do with shifting Cornet to fund O'Hare and Muric.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:26 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:26 pm
Sounds like we could do with shifting Cornet to fund O'Hare and Muric.

Yes nixon alluded to that this morning

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:27 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:23 pm
Looks very good at linking midfield and attack. Very creative and a good dribbler but his finishing and final ball looks like it needs a bit of work from the videos I have watched. Still young though so could be a very good player for us

That’s what the Cov fans are saying and the stats would back it up. There’s not much online to form an opinion but if some of the bigger fees being mentioned are true, thats a lot for an attacking midfielder who doesn’t score goals.

Still, a midfielder who doesn’t score goals should fit right in here

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:33 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:27 pm
That’s what the Cov fans are saying and the stats would back it up. There’s not much online to form an opinion but if some of the bigger fees being mentioned are true, thats a lot for an attacking midfielder who doesn’t score goals.

Still, a midfielder who doesn’t score goals should fit right in here

Yes his goal scoring stats and assist stats are pretty poor, when you consider Brownhill had very similar stats in the championship but he played much deeper.

However, he will be playing in a much better team with a more attacking output so hopefully that’s stats will improve considerably this season.

Must admit his dribbling and tricks reminds me of Robbie Blake so all in I’m actually very excited by this one

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:37 pm

DCWat wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:25 pm
I know sod all about him, is he a decent player and would such a high value (if true) be fair?

Me neither, but their fans seem absolutely gutted that’s he’s leaving.

Reminds me a bit of the Robbie Blake to Wigan saga. And when we sold Charlie Austin to QPR.

NickBFC · Post by **NickBFC** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:46 pm

Few reporting O'Hare fee is £6m with an extra £3m add ons.

Seems Ben Davies joining Rangers with Liverpool doubling their money.

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:51 pm

NickBFC wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:46 pm

Seems Ben Davies joining Rangers with Liverpool doubling their money.

That’ll be gutting for our friends down the road as I think they were confident he was going to sign.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:59 pm

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Red Fox Rocks Socks · Post by **Red Fox Rocks Socks** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 11:04 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:59 pm
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I expect this is true. All the way through smashing riise with a golf club, bullying kids at Cardiff and falling out with everyone at Newcastle he’ll have been playing the long game looking to pinch a lad from Coventry in 2022 at Burnley to spite them, this lass in particular

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 11:46 pm

We seem to be signing a lot of attacking midfielders but no strikers.

Does this mean we’re going the full Man City?

Duffer_ · Post by **Duffer_** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 11:54 pm

scouseclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 17, 2022 11:46 pm
We seem to be signing a lot of attacking midfielders but no strikers.

Does this mean we’re going the full Man City?

We've got more false nines than when Donny Osmond judges Strictly!

Edit: oh, shoot! Wrong Messageboard.

burnmark · Post by **burnmark** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 12:19 am

Mustn’t be anything imminent with Cornet and Everton as he has travelled to Portugal.

https://twitter.com/burnleyofficial/sta ... FO7SfTF7nA

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:47 am

Sure I read somewhere that Everton’s offer was turned down flat by Burnley. Sorry, can’t remember where or who it was… but I took it as right.

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 4:08 am

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:23 pm
Also heard on Friday that Muric was at Gawthorpe last week.

That would be a u-turn, most of the insiders stated that we'd moved on from Muric well over a week ago. Man City have said they are only willing to sanction a permanent transfer for him and want 4m.

Can't see us bringing Verbruggen and Muric, in and spending over 8m on goalkeepers.