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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:34 pm

nyclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:23 pm
Looks like Vitinho plays on both the left and right. Very attacking, quick wing back.
Full name Victor Alexander da Silva

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Post by spt_claret » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:34 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 1:52 pm
I do wonder just what Kompany is thinking right now.

Maybe he knew in advance that anyone who was the subject of an offer would be sold, but it surely makes his job of achieving success with us one hell of a lot harder.
Kompany is probably annoyed but on some level must be aware he's now on a no-lose.
Pull off promotion he's a miracle worker, stock through the roof.
Fail, not his fault, team got hamstrung. Gets a new job elsewhere with a fairer crack of the whip.
I'm far from confident that radically overhauling the team to play City-lite with players that are far more limited than the players you normally need for that system is the right approach, but I don't see how it's going to be fair to criticise Kompany in the coming season unless we're truly abject.
Of course, without the right replacements, the possibility of being truly abject increases.

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Post by nyclaret » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:34 pm

Having watched his highlights I can confirm that he is the greatest footballer ever.

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Post by Tinribs » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:35 pm

20 mill for McNeill is brilliant business
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Post by Tinribs » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:35 pm

I don’t think Kompany rated McNeil he won’t be too bothered he can bring in his own players now

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Post by ksrclaret » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:36 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:33 pm
Not heard anything re Lowton
Anything on Roberts, aside from Nixon linking him to Wolves a few weeks ago?

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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:37 pm

Vitinho left back, Maatsen left midfield ? Pretty much every Coventry fan said Maatsen was superb going forward but a bit suspect defensively.

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Post by Longsider » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:41 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 2:32 pm
If of interest to anyone, I have had a check on the Antwerp forum to get the thoughts on Benson.

They think the price is too cheap (with the 1.5m offer being ‘insulting’). They rate him very highly - but say that he was poor before the season just gone. They think he will go as the club will take £3m and that he would be a stand out player for a league like the Championship. They believe there is alternative firm interest from Marseille and Lyon.
Marseille fans on Twitter think he is going to them.

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Post by quoonbeatz » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:41 pm

1HappyClaret wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:18 pm
You want to build a team round a player that twists himself in to the ground because he can't use his right foot, sored ZERO goals last year and created ONE assist in the season. That would be a very exciting player to build a team round. Everton fans will be on his back as soon as he loses the ball because he won't use his right foot. You only need to see this from the friendly against Wolves when he lost the ball because he wouldn't use his right foot and we conceded.

If the fee is £20m then that has to be a good deal for someone who is so one footed and scored zero goals and one assist last year.
Congratulations on not reading or understanding my post.

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Post by quoonbeatz » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:42 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:19 pm
our first ever Brazilian?
Speak for yourself.
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Post by BuryClaret » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:42 pm

We're Burnley, not Brazil. Blimey this one came out of nowhere!

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Post by lrac » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:43 pm

Now this is getting interesting utc

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:43 pm

spt_claret wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:34 pm
Kompany is probably annoyed but on some level must be aware he's now on a no-lose.
Pull off promotion he's a miracle worker, stock through the roof.
Fail, not his fault, team got hamstrung. Gets a new job elsewhere with a fairer crack of the whip.
I'm far from confident that radically overhauling the team to play City-lite with players that are far more limited than the players you normally need for that system is the right approach, but I don't see how it's going to be fair to criticise Kompany in the coming season unless we're truly abject.
Of course, without the right replacements, the possibility of being truly abject increases.
He said in his interview today that he knew what he was getting into when he came here and this is the job he wanted to do.

What's to be annoyed about?

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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:45 pm

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Post by Longsider » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:48 pm

FeedTheArf wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:22 pm
Vitinho signing apparently:

https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/stat ... 8RaQnQPZzw

No, me either!
Wow!! 100℅ done according to the feed

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Post by KRBFC » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:49 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:31 pm
any good ? I know you watch some of the Belgian league
This is one I cannot comment on, in and out, left and right, no idea.

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Post by spt_claret » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:49 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:24 pm
Potential replacement for Roberts maybe
This is my concern. Doesn't seem a position we need unless it was as LB backup in which case why sign Maatsen. Though I almost think Maatsen might be to replace Taylor at this right.
Definitely an interesting out of the box signing, but Roberts did excellent last time at this level so I'd rather stick with him if I had to choose.

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Post by warksclaret » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:51 pm

Did not VK say he wants two for every position, but that means Lowton will probably go, and in fairness he strikes me as someone who still wants to play regularly. Linked to WBA and Steve Bruce earlier in window, and supect club would let him go FOC

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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:52 pm

Claret Tony currently scrambling around the internet to piece together an article about a player nobody knows anything about :D

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Post by jedi_master » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:52 pm

He appears (from good old YouTube) to play left and right and seems so advanced that it’s not difficult to imagine him being deployed almost in any position apart from GK, CB, CM and Striker. Seems adaptable, possibly a very good substitute with his pace.

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:53 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:49 pm
This is one I cannot comment on, in and out, left and right, no idea.
That’s actually more shocking than the signing.

A footballer KRBFC can’t provide an opinion on.
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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:54 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:52 pm
He appears (from good old YouTube) to play left and right and seems so advanced that it’s not difficult to imagine him being deployed almost in any position apart from GK, CB, CM and Striker. Seems adaptable, possibly a very good substitute with his pace.
Think you are being a bit hasty ruling out him playing in goal
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Post by Longsider » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:56 pm

My Portuguese speaking other half reliably informs me his name is pronounced Vicheenyu. Cricketfield fans work your magic.

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Post by spt_claret » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:56 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:52 pm
Claret Tony currently scrambling around the internet to piece together an article about a player nobody knows anything about :D
Took a gander.
23, played 69 times for Brugges, 48 as starter, twice for the Brazil under 20s. 1 goal 1 assist last season, 1 goal 2 assists year before.
Was an unexpected callup to a training camp with the senior squad for the 2018 World Cup on home turf aged 18, trained with them but unsurprisingly didn't make the cut as he'd played 1 club game. Article here in Portugese mentions him:
https://www.mg.superesportes.com.br/app ... eira.shtml

Doesn't get much more left-field than this. Except he plays on the right.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:00 pm

His agent will be the first ever person under the culvert with a Brazilian

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Post by gawthorpe_view » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:00 pm

Longsider wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:56 pm
My Portuguese speaking other half reliably informs me his name is pronounced Vicheenyu. Cricketfield fans work your magic.
They'll probably call him Wooooot.
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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:03 pm

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Post by Burnley1989 » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:06 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:53 pm
That’s actually more shocking than the signing.

A footballer KRBFC can’t provide an opinion on.
:lol: I’m sure everyone was amazed, I'm actually disappointed to be honest, you can’t be an expert without knowing this lad

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:07 pm

That's another announcement video to look forward too
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Post by ksrclaret » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:08 pm

Anyone know any puns we could use for a Brazilian?

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:08 pm

ClaretAL wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 12:42 pm
He is good, but still too 1 footed for me, and like in the Premier League I am sure the opposition would just show him the inside on to his right to combat him. However I do agree he would be a lot more successful in the Championship
I agree .....on one of the training videos you can hear Kompany repeatedly telling Dwight to use his right foot, he's good but VERY one-footed. I for one am tired of watching him turn 360 when there's a simple pass on with his right.....it slows down or stops many promising moves.
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Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:08 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:00 pm
They'll probably call him Wooooot.
Veeeeet!

(A popular body hair removal cream here, so a Brazilian is apt)
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Post by Granny WeatherWax » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:10 pm

Fingers crossed Roberts is staying.

And if so it makes sense, for us and him, Lowton moving on.

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Post by Longsider » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:13 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:07 pm
That's another announcement video to look forward too
I've heard from a very good source that we have now dropped our shirt sponsor deal and have gone with a famous on line porn site.

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Post by nyclaret » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:16 pm

He's Brazilian
He cost only couple of million
And we think he's f**king brilliant
VITINHO!
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Post by longside72 » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:19 pm

Loving his description :lol:
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Post by JohnDearyMe » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:19 pm

My contacts in both Brazil & Belgium have told me that we have a very exciting player on our hands.
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Post by tiger76 » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:28 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:19 pm
My contacts in both Brazil & Belgium have told me that we have a very exciting player on our hands.
I like most on here know absolutely about this lad, but if he was in the Brazil under 20 side he must have ability.

Of course the big question is can he hack it on a wet Tuesday at Stoke.

Say what you like about Kompany's signings, but he is at least providing something different to the norm that's for sure.

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Post by gawthorpe_view » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:30 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:28 pm
I like most on here know absolutely about this lad, but if he was in the Brazil under 20 side he must have ability.

Of course the big question is can he hack it on a wet Tuesday at Stoke.

Say what you like about Kompany's signings, but he is at least providing something different to the norm that's for sure.
Or a wet Tuesday night in Burnley, cos there's gonna be a few this season.

Drought permitting of course.

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Post by ksrclaret » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:30 pm

Does anyone know anything about Roberts leaving then? No suggestions of anything in the last few weeks, although I suppose things do come out of the blue like McNeil and this Vitinho today.

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Post by Ric_C » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:35 pm

Another player who can play in multiple positions, which is a bonus.

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Post by Pickles » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:37 pm

We needed to sign a Brazilian to make it a proper evolution. How can you not be a bit excited.
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Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:38 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:30 pm
Does anyone know anything about Roberts leaving then? No suggestions of anything in the last few weeks, although I suppose things do come out of the blue like McNeil and this Vitinho today.
From the YouTube video (yes, I know) most of it was this lad attacking down the left but having the advantage of being 2 footed and going either way.
I’d say could be more of a direct replacement for McNeil.

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Post by Cleveleys_claret » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:39 pm

Bit of an out there one but could it be we feel that full backs can be turned into wingers in VKs system?

We all know wingers usually cost more than full backs, with so many at the club right now do we think the likes of this Vitinho and Maatsen can be deployed on the wings?

Right back at present heavily loaded with players that can play there, and so few wingers

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Post by dsr » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:40 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:08 pm
Anyone know any puns we could use for a Brazilian?
We've signed a Brazilian? I new we had a lot of new players, but I didn't realise it was as many as that.

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Post by ksrclaret » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:43 pm

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:38 pm
From the YouTube video (yes, I know) most of it was this lad attacking down the left but having the advantage of being 2 footed and going either way.
I’d say could be more of a direct replacement for McNeil.
I'd not thought of it like that. In theory I suppose it could work, but I'm of the opinion, from what I've read about Kompany's system in Belgium and for us in pre season, that we won't play with out and out wingers, rather midfielders that will come very narrow to allow attacking full backs to overlap. If that is going to be the case, I can't see how players like Vitinho and Maatsen would be suited to those midfield roles. I can see exactly how they would operate as full backs though.

Kompany may very well be looking to play a different formation for all we know, though. A 3 at the back possibly with wing backs.

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Post by Commy » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:47 pm

Doesn't Kompany use different formations? Would need players to suit all if he wanted to change it.

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Post by Sutton-Claret » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:49 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:52 pm
Claret Tony currently scrambling around the internet to piece together an article about a player nobody knows anything about :D
He's certainly earned his salary in this window.....

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Post by Colburn_Claret » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:52 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:39 pm
Bit of an out there one but could it be we feel that full backs can be turned into wingers in VKs system?

We all know wingers usually cost more than full backs, with so many at the club right now do we think the likes of this Vitinho and Maatsen can be deployed on the wings?

Right back at present heavily loaded with players that can play there, and so few wingers
Under the positional system VK wants to employ, it's necessary that players can function in a variety of roles. The whole idea is that players rotate throughout the zones, in order to make space, passing opportunities and befuddle the opposition. One trick ponies, no matter how good they are at that trick, wouldn't fit into this system. Every player needs to be quick, able to control the ball in tight spaces, and play a decent pass, no hoofing.

For those that say we can't play this system, because we don't have the quality of player that Pep does. You're right, but bear in mind, we won't be trying to play it against teams as good as City face.

Before a ball is kicked, I should imagine that some of those players we have bought, will struggle to learn or raise themselves to this system, it's only natural, but if we can get the majority on board, then the next window, or next summer, will leave us looking for a lot less round pegs.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:58 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:30 pm
Or a wet Tuesday night in Burnley, cos there's gonna be a few this season.

Drought permitting of course.
A wet Brazilian on Turf Moor?

That should go down well...
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