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Post by Pearcey » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:51 pm

Bobby Thomas will go out on loan. Good to see Benson in as well.

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Post by RVclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:52 pm

Also worth mentioning he said any area of the pitch we aren’t doubled up in, we’ll be targeting to recruit. Clearly a striker falls in that category…

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Post by Gordaleman » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:53 pm

claretandy wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:50 pm
Benson confirmed...

https://twitter.com/sachatavolieri/stat ... FPdSUh5gMQ
Not officially but it now looks very, very likely following what VK said about him.

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Post by Boxy » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:53 pm

Love the fact hes so open and honest. Confirms we gonna keep trying to sign players until we have at least 2 in each position

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Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:54 pm

forzagranata wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:29 pm
Given the very small profit made on a player who has now had a season of PL football and a decent scoring record maybe Alan has learnt his lesson and won't be including 'release clauses' in future contracts. It makes no sense to limit the possible sell-on value of a player in that fashion.
You forget that in all probability, he only signed for us BECAUSE we gave him a release clause. So the idea that Alan Pace should know better is rather churlish.
It will be sad to see Max go, but I would rather we had him with that release clause, than not have had him at all.
We also don't know if any of our new signings have release clauses, only time will tell.
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Post by ksrclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:55 pm

I usually can't be bear press conferences because of the questions the journos ask like "how important is it to get a striker in?", but I'm finding Kompany's to be compulsive listening to far despite the journos. He always comes up with answers full of real honesty and insight.

Pleasing to see him be so open about Benson signing soon and Thomas looking to go out on loan for the season.

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:56 pm

Boxy wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:53 pm
Love the fact hes so open and honest. Confirms we gonna keep trying to sign players until we have at least 2 in each position
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Post by Silkyskills1 » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:57 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:19 pm
I'm chilled, and far more patient than most people. It's just that I've been a Burnley fan for 70 years now and I'm eager to get Benson announced, so we can move on to the next one.
Hopefully the next ones, Gordaleman. 64th season coming up for me and I'm trying to be patient but not a strong point of mine.

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Post by agreenwood » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:00 pm

Deleted my post about Tedic. Burnley & Barnsley mixed up again

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:02 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:00 pm
Deleted my post about Tedic. Burnley & Barnsley mixed up again
Imagine if we sign Tadic

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Post by agreenwood » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:06 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:02 pm
Imagine if we sign Tadic
It was Slobodan Tedic (Man City youngster). He’s signed for Barnsley, but a popular Twitter account reported it as us.

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Post by ecc » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:06 pm

GrahamBranchsPerm wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:31 pm
This is my stance Ecc..... with the additional line that of course when the situation allows the clause to be avoided, it would be as BAU.

Cheers
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GrahamBranchsPerm wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:40 pm
Hello Forza.

The likes of Trippier (back in the day) or Cornet, or even Collins, don't sign / re-sign without such clauses.

We are a magnificent, but medium sized club, and thus face challenges on occasions getting excellent players over the line who long term back themselves to go onto bigger and better things.

UTC
Cheers GBP,

You're right IMHO when saying a lot of players who are hesitant about signing insist on such clauses being inserted. Cornet, in my opinion, didn't really want to come but Lyon needed him gone.

Then there's Haaland whose contracts are made up of 30 pages...

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Post by RVclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:10 pm

Dharmesh Sheth from Sky

West Ham United have agreed a deal with Burnley for the signing of Mawel Cornet. West Ham have met £17.5m release clause. Cornet travelling to London tonight for a medical.

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Post by agreenwood » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:15 pm

Has Delap signed for Stoke yet?

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Post by RVclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:16 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:15 pm
Has Delap signed for Stoke yet?
No

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Post by Big Vinny K » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:18 pm

Sky bet now shortened odds on Cornet going to West Ham by deadline day to 1/10 from 1/3 a couple of hours ago.

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Post by Boxy » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:19 pm

Andy Jones now reporting deal agreed

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Post by RVclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:21 pm

It’s a good deal all around really. Decent fee for us (sounds like we’ve held firm on the clause too), good move for the player and I think it’s a top signing for West Ham - he’ll suit their system far better than our static 4-4-2 last season.

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Post by ksrclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:25 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:21 pm
It’s a good deal all around really. Decent fee for us (sounds like we’ve held firm on the clause too), good move for the player and I think it’s a top signing for West Ham - he’ll suit their system far better than our static 4-4-2 last season.
Agreed. The suggestions are that for the release clause to be met it needed to be payed up front as well, so that will massively help cash flow and our ability to bring a few more in now.

I also agree with you that he'll suit West Ham. I imagine he'll be played on the left of the 4231 they use, which will surely get the best out of him starting wide and coming inside.

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:27 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:15 pm
Has Delap signed for Stoke yet?
Certainly taking a long time for them to confirm it. Does make you wonder if we are still in for him.
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Post by martin_p » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:31 pm

Kompany did say something about the press conference having come 24 hours too early when talking about Cornet which implies he’ll probably be gone by this time tomorrow.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:34 pm

I see Mcatee is at Sheff Utd

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Post by daveisaclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:38 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:21 pm
It’s a good deal all around really. Decent fee for us (sounds like we’ve held firm on the clause too), good move for the player and I think it’s a top signing for West Ham - he’ll suit their system far better than our static 4-4-2 last season.
Also good for us that it's happening now and not at the end of the window.
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Post by DCWat » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:47 pm

Good luck to him - scored some super goals but there are still doubts about his all round game. I hope he does well and manages to adapt to the PL.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:55 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:54 pm
You forget that in all probability, he only signed for us BECAUSE we gave him a release clause. So the idea that Alan Pace should know better is rather churlish.
It will be sad to see Max go, but I would rather we had him with that release clause, than not have had him at all.
We also don't know if any of our new signings have release clauses, only time will tell.
That’s the assumption & it’s mindful despite MC input & influence it still wasn’t enough & on the basis that WW failed when another striker could have been signed which could have made a significant difference thus negating the need to sell him in the first place could offer a slightly different but important way of viewing things. So it’s fair to say on that front with hindsight of course that things could have transpired far differently. We are we are swings & roundabouts.

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:56 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:52 pm
Also worth mentioning he said any area of the pitch we aren’t doubled up in, we’ll be targeting to recruit. Clearly a striker falls in that category…
I’d say two strikers and another attacking midfielder (right footed).
Maybe a centre half
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Post by martin_p » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:59 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:55 pm
That’s the assumption & it’s mindful despite MC input & influence it still wasn’t enough & on the basis that WW failed when another striker could have been signed which could have made a significant difference thus negating the need to sell him in the first place could offer a slightly different but important way of viewing things. So it’s fair to say on that front with hindsight of course that things could have transpired far differently. We are we are swings & roundabouts.
He’s right. If things had been different they could have been different!

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Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:00 pm

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Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:01 pm

martin_p wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:59 pm
He’s right. If things had been different they could have been different!
It’s being fair when lavishing praise or directing criticism a calamitous combination occurred, we are where we are.

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Post by Hipper » Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:05 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:55 pm
That’s the assumption & it’s mindful despite MC input & influence it still wasn’t enough & on the basis that WW failed when another striker could have been signed which could have made a significant difference thus negating the need to sell him in the first place could offer a slightly different but important way of viewing things. So it’s fair to say on that front with hindsight of course that things could have transpired far differently. We are we are swings & roundabouts.
Have you been drinking? :D

You seem to be using big words and 'slurring'!
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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:06 pm

Predicting it now, Benson pops up in the new Away Kit this evening

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Post by JohnDearyMe » Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:17 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:56 pm
I’d say two strikers and another attacking midfielder (right footed).
Maybe a centre half
Back up keeper too perhaps if he doesn't rate our current back up

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Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:18 pm

Hipper wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:05 pm
Have you been drinking? :D

You seem to be using big words and 'slurring'!
It’s not a relegation inquest thread but I’ll just say I thought WW was brought into the club to score the goals to prevent relegation & that was sanctioned by the man at the top.

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Post by MACCA » Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:20 pm

ŽižkovClaret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:06 pm
Predicting it now, Benson pops up in the new Away Kit this evening
"Couple of weeks" I was told regards the away kit, and it will be revealed together with the 3rd kit too..

Although that was regards the kits, not sure if " thecouple of weeks" is when its revealed or able to be purchased.

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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:25 pm

MACCA wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:20 pm
"Couple of weeks" I was told regards the away kit, and it will be revealed together with the 3rd kit too..

Although that was regards the kits, not sure if " thecouple of weeks" is when its revealed or able to be purchased.
Aye, surely they have a couple around the gaff for player reveals / promo shots ahead of delivery

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Post by martin_p » Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:26 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:18 pm
It’s not a relegation inquest thread but I’ll just say I thought WW was brought into the club to score the goals to prevent relegation & that was sanctioned by the man at the top.
I don’t think it came with a guarantee.

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Post by agreenwood » Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:29 pm

Wouldn’t be a surprise to see a few new deals quite quickly over the next 24 hours.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:32 pm

martin_p wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:26 pm
I don’t think it came with a guarantee.
I’m not disputing that but surely some accountability must exist for a dud signing especially what was at stake & the importance of getting it right.

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Post by jtv » Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:34 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:32 pm
I’m not disputing that but surely some accountability must exist for a dud signing especially what was at stake & the importance of getting it right.
Yes, but wasn't WW a sort of afterthought to the Orsic disappointment?

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Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:41 pm

jtv wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:34 pm
Yes, but wasn't WW a sort of afterthought to the Orsic disappointment?
2 different positions never in a month of Sundays was orsic going to get the goals required if that was the original intention, I’d file under calamitous cluster**** of 1 mans making.

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Post by Oldparkwood » Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:46 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:46 am
Not doubting your info, If i had cast iron info that it was done you can have a max bet of £750 at 1/3 on skybet making you an easy £250
Hope you had your bet 😀

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Post by Pearcey » Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:56 pm

Glad the Cornet deal is done. I’d accepted he was off and the end of last season. Just need some quality to come in now.

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Post by Gordaleman » Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:01 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:56 pm
Glad the Cornet deal is done. I’d accepted he was off and the end of last season. Just need some quality to come in now.
Not quite done yet. Anyone want to buy last years white away shirt with Cornet 20 on it though? :x

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Post by Bigvince » Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:04 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:01 pm
Not quite done yet. Anyone want to buy last years white away shirt with Cornet 20 on it though? :x
I’ll swap you for my Weghorst shirt 😀

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Post by Gordaleman » Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:07 pm

Bigvince wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:04 pm
I’ll swap you for my Weghorst shirt 😀
Nah, Weghorst's shirt would be far to big for me, ha ha. :lol: Ah well, at least we have an excuse to buy new ones now. So much choice though. Maybe I'll wait until the window closes. :?:

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Post by ynot » Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:11 pm

Bigvince wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:04 pm
I’ll swap you for my Weghorst shirt 😀
You beat me to it. The only time I've had a players name and number printed on a shirt and look what happened. Never again

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Post by BurnleyFC » Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:12 pm

Gutted about Cornet leaving but it was an inevitability once we were relegated.

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Post by forzagranata » Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:14 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:54 pm
You forget that in all probability, he only signed for us BECAUSE we gave him a release clause. So the idea that Alan Pace should know better is rather churlish.
It will be sad to see Max go, but I would rather we had him with that release clause, than not have had him at all.
We also don't know if any of our new signings have release clauses, only time will tell.
Pace needs to learn quickly how the football business works - its as simple as that.

Brighton signed Cucurelli for £16 million from Getafe last summer. One good season in the Premier League and they are selling him for more than £50 million to Chelsea or City. £34 million profit for a left-back with 12 months PL experience.

I take the point that the clause may have been added to secure the deal - but it was still a choice and it seems we are just weak when it comes to dealing with agents, clubs and players.

We 'had to' sell Nick Pope on the cheap because 'he wanted to leave' etc. Same with McNeil. Well Cucurelli wanted to go to City but Brighton have persuaded him to go to Chelsea - no doubt to their own benefit.

We now have a £12 million asset - purchased just in January - playing in the Turkish league where the risk is that his value could plummet even further.

The only decent bit of selling done this year was Collins - sold for a £9 million profit after one season.

Thankfully it appears that the recruiting side of things has been handed to Kompany and his people- and hopefully Benson turns out to be as good, if not better, than Cornet.

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Post by Big Vinny K » Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:14 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:41 pm
2 different positions never in a month of Sundays was orsic going to get the goals required if that was the original intention, I’d file under calamitous cluster**** of 1 mans making.
You mean he was never going to get the 1 or 2 goals which would have kept us up Captain Hindsight ?

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