Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by warksclaret » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:21 pm

Fair enough.Need to move on quickly then

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:21 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:17 pm
Mikautadze probably out of our price range according to Kompany.
I know we are not supposed to discuss it. But how can that physically be possible?
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Post by NewClaret » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:23 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:21 pm
I know we are not supposed to discuss it. But how can that physically be possible?
Think that’s a rhetorical question because we both know the answer.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:28 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:23 pm
Think that’s a rhetorical question because we both know the answer.
Even given all the financial problems that have been discussed I still can’t see how that deal is not possible.
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Post by Jakubclaret » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:28 pm

bpgburn wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 4:37 pm
Very true. I will put it down to a sudden surge of manly hormones on your part.
I’d rather we discussed possible transfer targets without mentioning money on this thread without personal jibes or insults if that’s possible.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:30 pm

Might just be a case of Metz is valuation is simply to much to be in our price range or what we want to spend or value him at

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Post by KRBFC » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:30 pm

£70m in sales, can't afford £6m for a striker. Brilliant stuff

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:32 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:30 pm
£70m in sales, can't afford £6m for a striker. Brilliant stuff
some people are choosing between food and electricity at the moment.
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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:33 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:30 pm
£70m in sales, can't afford £6m for a striker. Brilliant stuff
A lot could change especially with the two Metz players as we head into the final week. Kompany must know where we are still short.
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:34 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:32 pm
some people are choosing between food and electricity at the moment.
The relevance is?

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Post by KRBFC » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:34 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:32 pm
some people are choosing between food and electricity at the moment.
Some people are dying of starvation. What's the relevance?

I know people are bored of hearing it but £70m in sales and we're still broke. Truly disgraceful stuff.

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Post by KRBFC » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:35 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:33 pm
A lot could change especially with the two Metz players as we head into the final week. Kompany must know where we are still short.
VK's hands are tied sadly

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Post by Steddyman » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:35 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:30 pm
£70m in sales, can't afford £6m for a striker. Brilliant stuff
Most likely we value him a lot less and don't want to get ripped off overpaying. Move onto next target.
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:39 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:30 pm
£70m in sales, can't afford £6m for a striker. Brilliant stuff
Lance live is saying that the French club are believed to be willing to do a deal at 4.2m. But we are unwilling to go that high

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:39 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:34 pm
The relevance is?
if you can't afford it you can't afford it

I thought it was extremely blatant what I was saying but clearly not :?

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:39 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:35 pm
Most likely we value him a lot less and don't want to get ripped off overpaying. Move onto next target.
Tbf is 4m seriously overpaying for a striker we believe is going to improve us?

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:41 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:39 pm
Tbf is 4m seriously overpaying for a striker we believe is going to improve us?
Dyche used to always say "we have our valuation for players"

or have you chosen to forget that ?

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:45 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:41 pm
Dyche used to always say "we have our valuation for players"

or have you chosen to forget that ?
I can’t understand your logic.

You honestly believe the club have targeted a striker that is going to improve us and thought they could get him for 1-2m?

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Post by KRBFC » Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:24 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:35 pm
Most likely we value him a lot less and don't want to get ripped off overpaying. Move onto next target.
Kompany said he's out of our price range.

VK:
"It is a difficult one, there are some players that are out of our range financially. For us it is a player who is probably out of our range."

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Post by KRBFC » Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:25 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:41 pm
Dyche used to always say "we have our valuation for players"

or have you chosen to forget that ?
Kompany did not say that. Entirely different what VK said.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:32 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:25 pm
Kompany did not say that. Entirely different what VK said.
not seen or heard anything yet, been busy but I'll go take a look

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:33 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:45 pm
I can’t understand your logic.

You honestly believe the club have targeted a striker that is going to improve us and thought they could get him for 1-2m?
well, people far more in the know than anyone on here are saying exactly that. Sacha is as reliable as Romano, so if he says that's the crack then that's the crack

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Post by KRBFC » Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:34 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:32 pm
not seen or heard anything yet, been busy but I'll go take a look
''"It is a difficult one, there are some players that are out of our range financially. For us it is a player who is probably out of our range."'

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:38 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:34 pm
''"It is a difficult one, there are some players that are out of our range financially. For us it is a player who is probably out of our range."'
the flip side of that is he could be being smart.....
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Post by forzagranata » Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:52 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:38 pm
the flip side of that is he could be being smart.....
Or diplomatic.

He is reported to be available for around 4 million pounds.

So, 4 million is out of Pace's price range for a centre-forward.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Aug 24, 2022 12:06 am

forzagranata wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:52 pm
Or diplomatic.

He is reported to be available for around 4 million pounds.

So, 4 million is out of Pace's price range for a centre-forward.
yep, either or

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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Aug 24, 2022 12:09 am

you would hope, worst case scenario is we bring someone in on loan. We can only afford what we can afford.

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Post by forzagranata » Wed Aug 24, 2022 12:22 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 12:09 am
you would hope, worst case scenario is we bring someone in on loan. We can only afford what we can afford.
The club has raised 70 million from the fire sale of our Premier League team and now we can't afford 4 million for a Georgian striker from the French second division.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Aug 24, 2022 12:34 am

forzagranata wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 12:22 am
The club has raised 70 million from the fire sale of our Premier League team and now we can't afford 4 million for a Georgian striker from the French second division.
you clearly haven't been paying attention

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Post by JarrowClaret » Wed Aug 24, 2022 12:35 am

Wow I see some crap in here I have no idea about the financials at the Club what the money raised will be spent on etc. I am sure though that whilst the outline figure will be near 70 mill what we have received already will be no where near. I wish people wouldn’t jump to conclusions and see how it goes before say commenting. Saying he could be out of our price range does not necessarily mean we can’t afford him it just means we aren’t prepared to spen that much on him.
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Post by dsr » Wed Aug 24, 2022 12:53 am

forzagranata wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:52 pm
Or diplomatic.

He is reported to be available for around 4 million pounds.

So, 4 million is out of Pace's price range for a centre-forward.
Not necessarily. Just out of the price range for this centre forward.
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Post by RVclaret » Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:13 am

JarrowClaret wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 12:35 am
Wow I see some crap in here I have no idea about the financials at the Club what the money raised will be spent on etc. I am sure though that whilst the outline figure will be near 70 mill what we have received already will be no where near. I wish people wouldn’t jump to conclusions and see how it goes before say commenting. Saying he could be out of our price range does not necessarily mean we can’t afford him it just means we aren’t prepared to spen that much on him.
It’s been said and explained to certain posters many, many times that 70m in sales is nowhere near what we will have received or have available but they continue to ignore it so they can spout their nonsense.

The likely figure, after paying Charlton, Stoke and Lyon, is closer to 40m and even then it’s unlikely all of that will have been received at once (unless the club have used Macquarie to forward the revenues on all of the deals).

As for this player, Nixon suggested we were bidding 5m and Metz wanted double that. Who knows what is accurate but he has been the most reliable journo this summer for us.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:54 am

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:13 am
It’s been said and explained to certain posters many, many times that 70m in sales is nowhere near what we will have received or have available but they continue to ignore it so they can spout their nonsense.

The likely figure, after paying Charlton, Stoke and Lyon, is closer to 40m and even then it’s unlikely all of that will have been received at once (unless the club have used Macquarie to forward the revenues on all of the deals).

As for this player, Nixon suggested we were bidding 5m and Metz wanted double that. Who knows what is accurate but he has been the most reliable journo this summer for us.
You should know by now it doesn’t work like that. You add up your total income subtract nothing and that is what you have to spend.

If you earn £100 a week then you take home £100 a week and have £100 to spend on what you want.

It is no wonder some seem to really struggle with everything

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Post by blake's wand » Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:27 am

Could be the wages that are out of range or VK could be sending a public message as a negotiating tactic

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Post by wilks_bfc » Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:30 am

Do people really think that its a case of “we can’t afford £7m for him” rather then we don’t think he’s worth £7m the Metz want?


If a shop keeper knows I have £20 in my pocket and I want a packet of crisps, just because he might ask for £10 doesn’t mean I’m going to pay it

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:39 am

wilks_bfc wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:30 am
Do people really think that its a case of “we can’t afford £7m for him” rather then we don’t think he’s worth £7m the Metz want?


If a shop keeper knows I have £20 in my pocket and I want a packet of crisps, just because he might ask for £10 doesn’t mean I’m going to pay it
For a start it’s 4.2m

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:45 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:39 am
For a start it’s 4.2m
Nobody knows it’s actually 4.2mil, Alex James is going if they belgium reporter who said we bid 2.5mil but they want double, Nixon said we had bid 5mil but Metz want more. It’s all speculation. for all we know Metz could be asking for 10mil. 10mil for a player nobody had even heard of 2 weeks ago

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Post by agreenwood » Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:48 am

In the absence of any real knowledge of the asking price, it’s all about your chosen narrative.

If you’re not keen on the current board, the “£4.2m” valuation is the one to pick.

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Post by Nori1958 » Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:49 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:39 am
For a start it’s 4.2m
Or 10, depending which reporter you believe.

At 7 or 10 I would agree he is out of our price range, for the type of player, and future value of the player we are targeting, it doesn't mean we cannot afford him, two completely different things.

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Post by Big Vinny K » Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:49 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:21 pm
I know we are not supposed to discuss it. But how can that physically be possible?
“Physically be possible” ?
He only has to exist in real life for that to be the case

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:50 am

Nori1958 wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:49 am
Or 10, depending which reporter you believe.

At 7 or 10 I would agree he is out of our price range, for the type of player, and future value of the player we are targeting, it doesn't mean we cannot afford him, two completely different things.
If the reporter saying ten is Nixon then it’s definitely lower. He’s been shocking with fees all summer

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:50 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:39 am
For a start it’s 4.2m
Using your method from yesterday can you show a link where the club have come out and stated we want 4.2m

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:51 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:50 am
Using your method from yesterday can you show a link where the club have come out and stated we want 4.2m
Local reporters are stating that figure

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Post by roperclaret » Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:51 am

blake's wand wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:27 am
Could be the wages that are out of range or VK could be sending a public message as a negotiating tactic
Agree with this. VK’s quote sounds to me like the player is asking for wages above our current ceiling.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:53 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:51 am
Local reporters are stating that figure
How come that is good enough for you today but not yesterday ?

It is like you are willing to believe anything that helps your viewpoint and nothing that doesn't
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:56 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:50 am
If the reporter saying ten is Nixon then it’s definitely lower. He’s been shocking with fees all summer
Nixon has been pretty spot on with us for last 2 seasons, he called Collins and cornet first, then he called roberts and Christie but Christie chose Bournemouth and he’s been good this season with the lads from city and then with twine,
People seem to call Nixon when he writes something they don’t like or agree with

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:00 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:56 am
Nixon has been pretty spot on with us for last 2 seasons, he called Collins and cornet first, then he called roberts and Christie but Christie chose Bournemouth and he’s been good this season with the lads from city and then with twine,
People seem to call Nixon when he writes something they don’t like or agree with
Been good with names but his figures qouted have been abysmal this summer.

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Post by BurnleyFC » Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:01 am

Is he any good anyway?

I’m sure we’ll have a striker in by the end of the window.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:04 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:00 am
Been good with names but his figures qouted have been abysmal this summer.
Which figures has he got wrong?

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Post by Nori1958 » Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:05 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:00 am
Been good with names but his figures qouted have been abysmal this summer.
How can you say that, when nobody knows what we've paid?

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