January transfer window rumours.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by warksclaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:10 pm

Hoping the Tella situation can be resolved very soon, as Rodriguez is going through a spell where his form is nothing like it was pre November, and he missed an absolute sitter v Swansea which he invariably does when his confidence goes.Add that to his general fitness and it would be unwise to rely on him too much in the next 5 months. At least we can always play Tella more centrally. Barnes we hear has clubs showing interest in him leaving us exposed in strikers if he goes out on loan

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by HiThere » Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:12 pm

I doubt we'll hear anything regarding Tella unless he goes back. I expect we'll only know once the window shuts.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Carwin261 » Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:16 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:34 am
From fan comments I’ve gathered that he’s a very good ball playing defender, which should be no surprise!
Bit like Steve Davis.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by NewClaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:28 pm

That’s three out, soon to be four assuming the medical is passed.

Credit to Pace for this restructure, it’s impressive and reassuring in equal measure (wage bill slashed in case we don’t go up).

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Cooclaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:02 pm

Heard from one of the youth lads (on the same train) there’s legs in Deli Ali pitching up at BFC.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by ClaretInLeeds » Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:07 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:02 pm
Heard from one of the youth lads (on the same train) there’s legs in Deli Ali pitching up at BFC.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Aclaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:08 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:02 pm
Heard from one of the youth lads (on the same train) there’s legs in Deli Ali pitching up at BFC.
Deli Alis legs have long gone....he couldn't even pitch a tent at BFC.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Robbie_painter » Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:11 pm

Aclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:08 pm
Deli Alis legs have long gone....he couldn't even pitch a tent at BFC.
Something seriously wrong if his legs have gone at 26.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by summitclaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:31 pm

Can't think of a less plausible VK or Pace signing. He probably meant Borehamwood F C.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Cooclaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:51 pm

summitclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:31 pm
Can't think of a less plausible VK or Pace signing. He probably meant Borehamwood F C.
Just having the crack with a couple of the youth lads.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by martin_p » Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:04 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:10 pm
Hoping the Tella situation can be resolved very soon, as Rodriguez is going through a spell where his form is nothing like it was pre November, and he missed an absolute sitter v Swansea which he invariably does when his confidence goes.Add that to his general fitness and it would be unwise to rely on him too much in the next 5 months. At least we can always play Tella more centrally. Barnes we hear has clubs showing interest in him leaving us exposed in strikers if he goes out on loan
Whether he plays tomorrow might give us an idea where Soton are with him. They might not want him cup tieing if they plan a recall.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by DCWat » Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:27 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:02 pm
Heard from one of the youth lads (on the same train) there’s legs in Deli Ali pitching up at BFC.
They’ll be double chuffed that their funny made it all the way to a message board.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by AshevilleNCClaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:30 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:28 pm
That’s three out, soon to be four assuming the medical is passed.

Credit to Pace for this restructure, it’s impressive and reassuring in equal measure (wage bill slashed in case we don’t go up).
I'm happy to have the players move on, but i doubt we are saving much money in the short term. Its not like the loaner clubs are flushed with cash and would pick up any significant portion of our players wages. We might get a small loan fee but i guess something is better than nothing.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by ksrclaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:34 pm

I like the look of the Swedish centre-half we’ve been linked with.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Taffy on the wing » Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:34 pm

martin_p wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:04 pm
Whether he plays tomorrow might give us an idea where Soton are with him. They might not want him cup tieing if they plan a recall.
Good thinking Batman!

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:41 pm

AshevilleNCClaret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:30 pm
I'm happy to have the players move on, but i doubt we are saving much money in the short term. Its not like the loaner clubs are flushed with cash and would pick up any significant portion of our players wages. We might get a small loan fee but i guess something is better than nothing.
it's more than just a money saving exercise,though, isn't it?
It allows us to bring it some new potential first teamers who will be under no particular pressure to hit the road running.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by AshevilleNCClaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:43 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:41 pm
it's more than just a money saving exercise,though, isn't it?
It allows us to bring it some new potential first teamers who will be under no particular pressure to hit the road running.
I would agree its not just the money (although it should have been criminal for Dale Stephens to take a wage as little as he played).

Also, I think its a good gesture by the club as well, to allow players to move on and play, rather than have them languish on the bench/under23s.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by NewClaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:43 pm

AshevilleNCClaret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:30 pm
I'm happy to have the players move on, but i doubt we are saving much money in the short term. Its not like the loaner clubs are flushed with cash and would pick up any significant portion of our players wages. We might get a small loan fee but i guess something is better than nothing.
Apparently, Charlotte FC top salary is £30k pw, same with Birmingham, Huddersfield 27k, Peterborough is £6k.

If you look at that, there’s a direct correlation between what they earn here & where they’ve gone. It obviously depends how hard a bargain we’ve driven, but entirely feasible that they’re all off the wage bill in their entirety (Long certainly will be given he’s permanent, although we may have offered a pay off).

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Dodobdobodobo » Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:47 pm

Ameen Al-Dakhil Playing tonight v Standard Liege (half time) on DAZN1 if you fancy having a watch of our new man to be

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:11 pm

The brother of the Royal Antwerp player ‘Balikwisha’ who commented on Manuel Bensons Instagram - saying, “save me a seat” which caused a few supporters to believe he was singing for us, has just turned Al-Dikhal inside out on the flank.

Tenuous links everywhere 😂

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Aclaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:18 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:11 pm
The brother of the Royal Antwerp player ‘Balikwisha’ who commented on Manuel Bensons Instagram - saying, “save me a seat” which caused a few supporters to believe he was singing for us, has just turned Al-Dikhal inside out on the flank.

Tenuous links everywhere 😂
Any idea what he was singing for us.....😄

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:31 pm

Auto correct 😂

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by bobinho » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:37 pm

Aclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:08 pm
Deli Alis legs have long gone....he couldn't even pitch a tent at BFC.
I'll take that with a pinch of salt if you don't mind. It's not that long ago we were hearing about how Corks legs had gone. :roll:

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by NewClaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:39 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:11 pm
The brother of the Royal Antwerp player ‘Balikwisha’ who commented on Manuel Bensons Instagram - saying, “save me a seat” which caused a few supporters to believe he was singing for us, has just turned Al-Dikhal inside out on the flank.

Tenuous links everywhere 😂
How’s he played more generally?

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by bobinho » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:41 pm

martin_p wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:04 pm
Whether he plays tomorrow might give us an idea where Soton are with him. They might not want him cup tieing if they plan a recall.
I'd suggest that won't be in their thinking.... he won't be going back to help with a cup run. If he's going back to save their season, then it wouldn't make sense to play him in a cup game and risk injury.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Aclaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:45 pm

bobinho wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:37 pm
I'll take that with a pinch of salt if you don't mind. It's not that long ago we were hearing about how Corks legs had gone. :roll:
Not from me mind, I've always thought Jack Cork has a place in our side.....think it might have been our previous manager who had other thoughts !
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:48 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:39 pm
How’s he played more generally?
Unfortunately the kids took over the room, he was playing in the left hand side of a back 3 and seemed to have a little bit of pace about him for a centre half

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Claret Toni » Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:37 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:02 pm
Heard from one of the youth lads (on the same train) there’s legs in Deli Ali pitching up at BFC.
Besiktas reported to be looking to terminate Deli Alli's season long loan.

Perhaps Deli's head has been turned by Wout waxing lyrical about the Clarets, how much he liked the place and how much he would like to get back for the Championship trophy and another season in the Premier with a team destined for the top.

On the other hand, four fingers and a thumb.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by BurnleyFC » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:01 pm

There’s still a good player in there somewhere with Dele Alli, but his confidence is obviously shot to pieces.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Commy » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:27 pm

Maybe Kompany could give him confidence and get him back to his best. He seems to know what to say and how to handle players. Wouldn't lose anything by getting him on loan for the rest of the season. Looks like he played in the Premier at the beginning of the season so couldn't go anywhere else anyway.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by summitclaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:33 pm

Too much money too young. Don't touch with a barge pole. Big risk to our team spirit. Rather get Tyler Morton on loan.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by NewClaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:34 pm

No longer fits our profile of buying young, up and coming players. Busted flush. Would be amazed if we went anywhere near him.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Commy » Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:11 am

Charlotte FC have posted a video on twitter with a cup of 'American' tea (gnats pee and no milk) keep being filled and then emptied. Haven't shown the player but it has to be Westwood.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Targetman » Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:27 am

BurnleyFC wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:01 pm
There’s still a good player in there somewhere with Dele Alli, but his confidence is obviously shot to pieces.
Delli Alli hasn't been a good player for a long, long time, if indeed he ever was!

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Socrates » Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:59 am

Targetman wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:27 am
Delli Alli hasn't been a good player for a long, long time, if indeed he ever was!
If he ever was?

Jeez. How quick people forget.

There was a time when he was arguably the best U21 player in Europe.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Cap » Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:07 am

Socrates wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:59 am
If he ever was?

Jeez. How quick people forget.

There was a time when he was arguably the best U21 player in Europe.
Absolutely.
At 1 point I thought he was the player that we should be building the England team around.
His partnership with Kane at Spurs was excellent at that time.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by colne-claret » Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:30 am

Targetman wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:27 am
Delli Alli hasn't been a good player for a long, long time, if indeed he ever was!
He was being compared to a young Zidane at one point. He peaked at about 20 years old.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by wilks_bfc » Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:43 am

Commy wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:11 am
Charlotte FC have posted a video on twitter with a cup of 'American' tea (gnats pee and no milk) keep being filled and then emptied. Haven't shown the player but it has to be Westwood.
Going off the number on the saucer (1.07) I’d expect it to be confirmed today

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by ClaretInLeeds » Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:09 am

Tyler Morton 🤣🤣

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:23 am

Dele Ali was a fantastic player, still probably is to be honest, but something isn't right, and the first person to spot it was Mourinho (which he got pilloried for at the time)

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:35 am

Alli was absolutely incredible for a time. That goal he scored against Palace away in 2016 is one of the best Premier League goals in the last decade or so.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by agreenwood » Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:41 am

Alli had a difficult childhood by the sounds of it. Moved around a lot, mum struggled with alcohol and ended up moving in with the parents of a teammate when he was 13. By the time he was in his late teens, he’d broken off communication completely with his parents and stopped wearing the family surname on his shirt.

I’m not a psychologist and he’s not the only footballer to have had a difficult childhood, but I reckon that’s a lot of baggage to carry with you whilst trying to perform a sport at the top level in the public gaze.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by mdd2 » Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:36 am

agreenwood wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:41 am
Alli had a difficult childhood by the sounds of it. Moved around a lot, mum struggled with alcohol and ended up moving in with the parents of a teammate when he was 13. By the time he was in his late teens, he’d broken off communication completely with his parents and stopped wearing the family surname on his shirt.

I’m not a psychologist and he’s not the only footballer to have had a difficult childhood, but I reckon that’s a lot of baggage to carry with you whilst trying to perform a sport at the top level in the public gaze.
Think that is answered in one there Greenwood
Whilst lots of people come through these childhood difficult times even when the person seems on an even keel it doesn’t take much to blow them of course
For every Norman Wisdom there are usually many more who spend their lives struggling with their upbringing as I imagine can be seen right now with a certain Harry

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by HiThere » Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:44 am

Not sure on the quality of these sources, but a bit more on Al-Dakhil and Surridge:

Burnley are expected to complete a deal for STVV defender Ameen Al-Dakhil imminently, with the youngster set to play his ‘last game’ for the Belgian club this evening (last night)

Kompany has ‘always been impressed’ by the ‘enormous potential’ of the 20-year-old who is likely to be at the game at the Meuse this evening before then making his move to Burnley.

How much the Clarets will pay for the centre-back isn’t mentioned but it will presumably be closer to the €5m that STVV were demanding in the summer.
http://sportwitness.co.uk/burnley-trans ... day-night/

£3.5m ace and striker in: Predicting Burnley’s XI with 3 new signing
The lack of depth in the number nine role is, perhaps, the only missing piece in Kompany’s Burnley jigsaw. Jay Rodriguez has nine goals in 19 starts. But Ashley Barnes, at 33, is no longer the defence-bothering force of old. Halil Dervisoglu, meanwhile, may be re-called by Brentford after only 59 minutes of Championship football. 

Sam Surridge, then, would be welcomed with open arms at Turf Moor. Specifically, by one-time Swansea City team-mate Conor Roberts.

“He’s a talented lad,” Roberts tells the Burnley Express of Surridge, the £2.2 million Nottingham Forest benchwarmer. “He’s obviously got quality, otherwise he wouldn’t have been at the clubs he has. 

“He might come in and score the goal that gets us promoted. You never know.” 

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2023/01/06/3 ... w-signing/

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:46 am

mdd2 wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:36 am
Think that is answered in one there Greenwood
Whilst lots of people come through these childhood difficult times even when the person seems on an even keel it doesn’t take much to blow them of course
For every Norman Wisdom there are usually many more who spend their lives struggling with their upbringing as I imagine can be seen right now with a certain Harry
Ravel Morrison is another

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by arise_sir_charge » Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:05 am

You forget that Dele Alli is only 26. There is every chance that in the right environment he could become an outstanding player again. Appreciate there is nothing to suggest we are after him but I’d not be against it if we were. Someone somewhere will get a tune out of him.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by agreenwood » Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:06 am

mdd2 wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:36 am
Think that is answered in one there Greenwood
Whilst lots of people come through these childhood difficult times even when the person seems on an even keel it doesn’t take much to blow them of course
For every Norman Wisdom there are usually many more who spend their lives struggling with their upbringing as I imagine can be seen right now with a certain Harry
He was also held at knifepoint and attacked in a robbery at his home 2-3 years ago.

All of this might have nothing to do with the huge drop-off in his performances, but you’ve got to be extremely resilient to park this kind of stuff and keep maintaining high standards.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Targetman » Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:49 pm

colne-claret wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:30 am
He was being compared to a young Zidane at one point. He peaked at about 20 years old.
You are probably right about that.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by mkmel » Sat Jan 07, 2023 1:12 pm

colne-claret wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:30 am
He was being compared to a young Zidane at one point. He peaked at about 20 years old.
That's nothing! I knew a guy who watched him at Milton Keynes and he compared him with none other than.......Messi!!!!!!!!

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Targetman » Sat Jan 07, 2023 1:13 pm

Socrates wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:59 am
If he ever was?

Jeez. How quick people forget.

There was a time when he was arguably the best U21 player in Europe.
I haven't forgotten anything!

He was never consistent enough to be the best U21 player in England never mind Europe, arguably.

Yes he had obvious skill, some lovely touches at times, but never on a consistent basis which ultimately, along with his reported attitude problems, led to him dropping down the pecking order at his club.

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