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Re: Beyer

Post by Jakubs Tash » Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:37 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:35 pm
They said there was believed to be a buy option, never that we are activating it (which is kinda the new bit here plus the fee).

Re. Maatsen, no, just that we are likely to pursue a permanent deal for him.
Is it not pretty obvious that we'll activate it (Beyer)? We'd be daft not to! It's definitely not Nixon's story this one. He's way late on it!
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Re: Beyer

Post by NewClaret » Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:37 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:34 pm
Nixon says not.
Yes, realise it’s not reported, it’s just a hunch. I think we’ll have at least tried to back in summer.

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Re: Beyer

Post by RVclaret » Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:39 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:37 pm
Is it not pretty obvious that we'll activate it (Beyer)? We'd be daft not to! It's definitely not Nixon's story this one. He's way late on it!
Oh yeah, I don’t really care about who’s said it, though there had been some mixed reporting with some noises in the German press there wasn’t any clause, this cast a bit of doubt lately.
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Re: Beyer

Post by Goalposts » Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:24 pm

£3m is the reported fee with a potential 2m in add ones and a 10% sell on clause. Id take that now

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Re: Beyer

Post by taio » Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:29 pm

Goalposts wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:24 pm
£3m is the reported fee with a potential 2m in add ones and a 10% sell on clause. Id take that now
Absolutely bite their hand off if those figures are correct. Really hope we can do the deal. He's been a top player for us.

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Re: Beyer

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:31 pm

Goalposts wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:24 pm
£3m is the reported fee with a potential 2m in add ones and a 10% sell on clause. Id take that now
Good lord, we’ve absolutely had their pants down there if this is true.

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Re: Beyer

Post by Big Vinny K » Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:32 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:31 pm
Would not shock me at all if there were similar clauses in Tella and Maatsen’s contracts. Their “spices” celebration is either a massive tease or a sign that they expect to sign permanently.

Any I imagine in summer that Southampton/Chelsea might’ve been open to decent sums for fringe players.
Unfortunately there is not.

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Re: Beyer

Post by blake's wand » Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:06 pm

Think it would be brilliant business at the figures quoted, but also hard to argue he's worth much more than £5m or so at the moment.

Doing a fantastic job in a team walking the league, against mostly pretty average championship CFs. Can't wait to see how he (hopefully) gets on against the prem best.

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Re: Beyer

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:25 pm

£4m according to the man himself yesterday

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Re: Beyer

Post by tiger76 » Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:27 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:25 pm
£4m according to the man himself yesterday
If true that would be a hell of a signing.

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Re: Beyer

Post by LDNBFC87 » Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:37 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:25 pm
£4m according to the man himself yesterday
Which man, Beyer? Nixon?
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Re: Beyer

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:37 pm

LDNBFC87 wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:37 pm
Which man, Beyer?
Yes
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Re: Beyer

Post by LDNBFC87 » Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:38 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:37 pm
Yes
Thanks. Incredible! How did you hear it from him?

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Re: Beyer

Post by fatboy47 » Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:39 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:31 pm
Good lord, we’ve absolutely had their pants down there if this is true.
Tend to agree. The lad looks a bit special.

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Re: Beyer

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:39 pm

LDNBFC87 wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:38 pm
Thanks. Incredible! How did you hear it from him?
They were on out train and got off at Stockport where we chatted to them
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Re: Beyer

Post by jedi_master » Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:43 pm

That is an INSANE price, insane!!! If we had no fee agreed then I was genuinely anticipating us needing to fork over £12-15m (and I’d have done that in a heartbeat).

Potentially one of the greatest bargains ever for Burnley if so!

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Re: Beyer

Post by Elizabeth » Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:51 pm

Collecting some pretty good central defenders for Kompany to work with in the PL.

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Re: Beyer

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:59 pm

Less than £5m now does seem an insane price but remember when we took him on loan in the summer he’d been somewhat of a bit part player for his German side and hasn’t nailed down a position (he was played at RB and CB) or regular starting spot.

It’s yet another testament to the amazing coaching our players get now from Kompany, Bellamy et al that the price we agreed now seems like the bargain of the century so far.

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Re: Beyer

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:07 pm

When we consider Beyer’s struggles and Ekdal being something like 5th choice at his club before the last club (can’t recall the name), it doesn’t come as a surprise to me when we see these other European sides doing well in European competition. Maybe a German side isn’t the best example as they are a major nation but I do think English club’s players are overrated in comparison (the only reason we do so well in Europe is our biggest clubs have the finances to buy whoever they want).
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Re: Beyer

Post by Ampth7 » Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:05 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:07 pm
When we consider Beyer’s struggles and Ekdal being something like 5th choice at his club before the last club (can’t recall the name), it doesn’t come as a surprise to me when we see these other European sides doing well in European competition. Maybe a German side isn’t the best example as they are a major nation but I do think English club’s players are overrated in comparison (the only reason we do so well in Europe is our biggest clubs have the finances to buy whoever they want).
100% agree with this. No doubt at all that English players are at a premium and many of them aren’t that great. I think part of the problem is the issue with needing a certain number of home grown/home nation players within English squads. Join this with the fact that all/most premier league teams are full of foreign players, and this has the inevitable knock-on effect of skewing the value of the limited number of decent young home-grown players.

Thank goodness that we are finally picking up players from abroad and at a snip of the price compared to trying to buy similar from home. The only thing I would question is how much of this is down to the clubs scouting network and how much is down to VK’s knowledge of the Belgian league? Thank goodness for VK as far as I’m concerned!

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Re: Beyer

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:28 pm

Must be some seriously good work by the scouting team involved as neither Beyer or Ekdal have played in Belgium.

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Re: Beyer

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:39 pm

Assuming Beyer wants to join us, his parent club beat Bayern yesterday. He needs a song from us !

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Re: Beyer

Post by Colburn_Claret » Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:17 am

Big Vinny K wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:32 pm
Unfortunately there is not.
It sounds more likely that we had no buy option for Beyer, but have now created one after the Germans came to see him last week.

If those figures are corrected though, I'd be amazed. Seems very low for a player who has been integral to the best team the Championship has seen in a decade.

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Re: Beyer

Post by RVclaret » Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:18 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:17 am
It sounds more likely that we had no buy option for Beyer, but have now created one after the Germans came to see him last week.

If those figures are corrected though, I'd be amazed. Seems very low for a player who has been integral to the best team the Championship has seen in a decade.
The fee was agreed way before their visit

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Re: Beyer

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:23 am

Again, we have to bear in mind that the premier league is a completely different beast to the championship and players that look far too good for this level might struggle a lot more in the higher league, and that will be reflected in the price
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Re: Beyer

Post by Swizzlestick » Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:31 am

That's a given, but when somebody like Harry Souttar is moving for £20m with zero PL experience, then it's some deal. Agreed though that he was in and out of the team in Germany and it's us who took the chance with him.

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Re: Beyer

Post by Big Vinny K » Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:39 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:17 am
It sounds more likely that we had no buy option for Beyer, but have now created one after the Germans came to see him last week.

If those figures are corrected though, I'd be amazed. Seems very low for a player who has been integral to the best team the Championship has seen in a decade.
That’s not the case.
We agreed the buy out option last summer when we signed him on loan. I know that for a fact but I don’t know what the fee was.
As I said I would not be surprised if it was that amount as that’s the most we were paying for players last summer.
It only looks an unbelievably good deal now after seeing him play for 6 months and us doing so well. At the time I’m pretty sure AP or VK could not have dreamt that we’d be this good or that Beyer would be so good. Clearly his German club did not think that either !!
He was presumably not really in BM’s plans for this season and no other club made the offer we did.

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Re: Beyer

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:43 am

Swizzlestick wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:31 pm
Good lord, we’ve absolutely had their pants down there if this is true.
I almost feel embarrassed if that's all we're going to pay for him :lol:

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Re: Beyer

Post by spt_claret » Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:46 pm

Goalposts wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:24 pm
£3m is the reported fee with a potential 2m in add ones and a 10% sell on clause. Id take that now
Steal of the century if true. Makes Michael Duff's bargain look expensive.
I thought we would take a long time to replace Mee and Tarks permanently. I run out of superlatives for Beyer, he's something incredibly special and if he had featured in more games would be my easy pick for player of the season. Everything started to click as soon as he came into the team.

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Re: Beyer

Post by thelifeofbrian » Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:57 pm

Get him signed- Top Top player.

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Re: Beyer

Post by JimmyRobbo » Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:03 pm

I have loved watching him and think he should be able to make the transition to the Prem. My concern is that he isn't really big enough to be such a Rolls Royce in the league above so 4m seems about fair.

He's taller than Ben Mee and he did alright, so fingers crossed and, once again, I applaud the owners for striking deals. I doubt we'll lose much money on him.

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Re: Beyer

Post by Colburn_Claret » Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:30 pm

Beyer, THB, Ekdal, Al-Dakhil and McNally doing a great job at Cov. We are blessed in CB department, and considering we lost Mee and Tarks, we could never have imagined it.
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