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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by MDWat » Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:19 am

Went to the game yesterday and stayed in Blackpool last night and saw no trouble at all.

Obviously heard about what’s gone on and sounds awful but it sounds like a minority again causing problems.

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:21 am

If I had kids I wouldn't take them to games like yesterday. It's a sad state of affairs but just wouldn't feel comfortable doing it.

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by Socrates » Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:24 am

KlyBfc wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:54 am
He’d had a few drinks in the pub as all pre game (when dropped off) and may have been a little fresh, but he definitely hurt his back on the way to the ground.
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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:44 am

Who knows, maybe ‘a little fresh’ is the latest slang for ‘taken a load of ket’

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by KlyBfc » Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:49 am

You can chuck your accusations and assumptions from behind your keyboards around all you want I know what I experienced.
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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by Socrates » Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:54 am

KlyBfc wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:49 am
You can chuck your accusations and assumptions from behind your keyboards around all you want I know what I experienced.
He says from behind his keyboard.

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by Burnley1989 » Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:04 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:44 am
Who knows, maybe ‘a little fresh’ is the latest slang for ‘taken a load of ket’
:lol: Did think the same

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:23 pm

Luckily from speaking to someone who knows the family of the Blackpool guy, he has not passed away yet
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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by 4midable » Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:25 pm

Jellybean wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:16 am
I am sick of these morons, they are the very reason why I can't take my kid to what should be a nice away game in Blackpool. It's not even young lads, they're all ages, feral and spending most of the game gauding the opposition. Weirdly I go to away games to cheer on my team and watch a match, these supposed fans will stop me from doing so in future
Any away teams fans in the land that

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by tiger76 » Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:26 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:21 am
If I had kids I wouldn't take them to games like yesterday. It's a sad state of affairs but just wouldn't feel comfortable doing it.
That's depressing to hear, although totally understandable alas.

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by Burnley Ace » Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:27 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:00 am
I saw a lad fall down the stairs coming down from the family lounge in the Manchester pub, looked like he’d really hurt himself, not sure if that’s him.
Was this before or after the fighting?

https://www.lancs.live/news/lancashire- ... 392155.amp
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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by arise_sir_charge » Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:27 pm

I love these threads after each busy away game.

We weren’t singing…..

Well it sounded loud on telly……

It was loud where I was in the middle….

I didn’t hear a song from the middle all game…..

The truth, is as always, somewhere in the middle but I think Bumba was perhaps expecting too much.

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by ClaretInLeeds » Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:39 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:27 pm
Was this before or after the fighting?

https://www.lancs.live/news/lancashire- ... 392155.amp
There was no fighting upstairs in the family bar….

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by bumba » Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:28 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:00 am
Tbf after Stoke away Accy Clarets themselves acknowledged they'd been issues with young lads drinking too much and acting like idiots.
Accy Clarets are the ones I've been with several times and even seen letters handed out before setting off due too bad behaviour and warning the fans so it's an ongoing issue they are aware of whether people like claret Tony hide under a duvet to not see it or choose to ignore it.
Truth it we have a serious issue that needs sorting asap because our fans are becoming a joke
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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by AlargeClaret » Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:31 pm

It’s what happens in a “ 6000 points game“ when people are buying 10 tickets etc . You have an over representation of both Bob Lorders ( very long term ST’s etc) and the coke heads who think Blackpool is a Utopia . Never a great mix of people barely able to get to their seats through either inebriation or old age .

Ps
As for people missing about rowdy boozy behaviour at a BLACKPOOL match … ffs . Of all the games

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by Jamesy » Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:36 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:31 pm
It’s what happens in a “ 6000 points game“ when people are buying 10 tickets etc . You have an over representation of both Bob Lorders ( very long term ST’s etc) and the coke heads who think Blackpool is a Utopia . Never a great mix of people barely able to get to their seats through either inebriation or old age .

Ps
As for people missing about rowdy boozy behaviour at a BLACKPOOL match … ffs . Of all the games
Here we go again……… another cheap shot at Bob Lorders. Yawn.

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by Nori1958 » Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:36 pm

It's illegal to carry alcohol on coaches to football matches, yet almost every away game photos are posted on social media of fans drinking on the supporters coaches.

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by ClaretInLeeds » Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:37 pm

Said it for years. A fair chunk of Burnley fans are bellends.

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by Barlickclaret » Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:37 pm

bumba wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:28 pm
Truth it we have a serious issue that needs sorting asap because our fans are becoming a joke
I think you've missed the word SOME in front of our fans. 99% of our fans were fine yesterday.

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by ClaretInLeeds » Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:38 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:36 pm
It's illegal to carry alcohol on coaches to football matches, yet almost every away game photos are posted on social media of fans drinking on the supporters coaches.
I’m presuming you don’t have a drink before games?

I only ask as it’s also illegal to enter a ground under the influence of alcohol.

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by Nori1958 » Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:40 pm

ClaretInLeeds wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:38 pm
I’m presuming you don’t have a drink before games?

I only ask as it’s also illegal to enter a ground under the influence of alcohol.
It's not illegal to visit a pub before the game

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by ClaretInLeeds » Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:43 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:40 pm
It's not illegal to visit a pub before the game
It is illegal to enter a ground under the influence of alcohol.

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by pushpinpussy » Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:45 pm

I have stopped taking my lad on away games due to the rough looking cocaine snorting drunks that frequent these matches. And this is just the women of Burnley.

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by 4midable » Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:47 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:18 am
I only really realised this season now that I’m taking my young child, no chance she’s going ewood, probably give it a miss myself.

I walked in to that yellow submarine bar yesterday before the game and the place was packed with zombies, was funny but I’ve never seen a group that off it
Wouldnt take a young child to ewood anyway. Yesterday or not

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by 4midable » Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:48 pm

ClaretInLeeds wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:43 pm
It is illegal to enter a ground under the influence of alcohol.
Thats 90% of adult fans. Tut

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by Nori1958 » Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:50 pm

ClaretInLeeds wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:43 pm
It is illegal to enter a ground under the influence of alcohol.
I suggest you look up the definition of what you are saying.

I have a pint in a pub before the game... No offence

Can of beer on coach.. Offence

It's obviously being allowed on some Coaches... Just pointing it out when people are saying everything thing is fine on the Coaches.
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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by pushpinpussy » Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:51 pm

ClaretInLeeds wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:43 pm
It is illegal to enter a ground under the influence of alcohol.
that is incorrect. drunken entry into a football ground is not allowed.

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by bumba » Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:54 pm

Barlickclaret wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:37 pm
I think you've missed the word SOME in front of our fans. 99% of our fans were fine yesterday.
Not 99% and not even close to 99% we're fine yesterday

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by ClaretInLeeds » Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:56 pm

Is being drunk not under the influence of alcohol?

We are missing the point here. The point isn’t if you can/can’t have a beer on a coach. The point is that a large portion of our fans a pi55ed up, coked up and wanting to fight anyone and everyone inside the ground.

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by Barlickclaret » Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:05 pm

bumba wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:54 pm
Not 99% and not even close to 99% we're fine yesterday
I take it your not in the group of people on here who want the loyalty point system changing so young fans can all get enough points to make even more games like yesterday.

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:07 pm

ClaretInLeeds wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:30 am
You’ve obviously got an agenda against the supporters clubs for whatever reason.

I’ve used the supporters clubs since I was about 13 years old. I have the upmost respect for Pete and those who run the coaches for him (I have, on occasion, run coaches for him too) but they are not babysitters. The majority of people who travel via supporters clubs are well behaved individuals who follow the Clarets all over the country every single week. Since lockdown, there have been people who use this method of transport to take drugs and get smashed.

Don’t tar everyone with the same brush - it’s the minority that are the problem, not the majority. It’s also not the supporters clubs responsibility to “look after” these individuals.
You're wrong.
The supporters clubs have it in their power to stop these idiots before they even leave Burnley, by putting up with it, you are condoning, if not encouraging it. As to responsibility. It should be everybody's responsibility to stop them, if not yours whose. You can't have it both ways.
Note their names, and the next time they apply for the coaches just tell them NO. Simple.

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by Burnley Ace » Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:10 pm

ClaretInLeeds wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:39 pm
There was no fighting upstairs in the family bar….
That’s not what I asked.

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by ClaretInLeeds » Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:12 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:10 pm
That’s not what I asked.
You asked if my lad had fallen downstairs before or after the fighting.

There was no fighting upstairs in the family lounge which is the stairs which he fell down.

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by Burnley Ace » Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:14 pm

I didn’t ask where the fighting was, I asked whether he fell down the stairs before or after the fight that happened. It’s a timeline, not whether he had been fighting.

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by ClaretInLeeds » Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:15 pm

There was no fighting in the bar we were in. How much clearer can I be?
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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by bumba » Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:19 pm

Barlickclaret wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:05 pm
I take it your not in the group of people on here who want the loyalty point system changing so young fans can all get enough points to make even more games like yesterday.
I'd rather it be changed to be honest because it doesn't work

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by 4midable » Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:22 pm

Barlickclaret wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:05 pm
I take it your not in the group of people on here who want the loyalty point system changing so young fans can all get enough points to make even more games like yesterday.
Loyalty system irrelevant
If you want a ticket you get 1
Any game

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by Burnley Ace » Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:34 pm

ClaretInLeeds wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:15 pm
There was no fighting in the bar we were in. How much clearer can I be?
So you weren’t in The Manchester? What you can be clear about was whether the stumble occurred before or after the fighting (that occurred at The Manchester). It’s not a trick question though you do seem very evasive

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:42 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:34 pm
So you weren’t in The Manchester? What you can be clear about was whether the stumble occurred before or after the fighting (that occurred at The Manchester). It’s not a trick question though you do seem very evasive
The Manchester has an upstairs family section, which it looks like they went in.
It's a separate entrance staircase.

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:22 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:44 am
Who knows, maybe ‘a little fresh’ is the latest slang for ‘taken a load of ket’
my little lad needed seven stiches in his knee after sliding on some limestone paving at club camp

When the doc was asking me for permission to use the drug to put him under and he said "I'm the leading exponent of using Ketamine in A &E" I think he guessed from my face that I'd never expected to hear it in that context

Worked well enough though!
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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:30 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:22 pm
my little lad needed seven stiches in his knee after sliding on some limestone paving at club camp

When the doc was asking me for permission to use the drug to put him under and he said "I'm the leading exponent of using Ketamine in A &E" I think he guessed from my face that I'd never expected to hear it in that context

Worked well enough though!
Yep, it's actually an essential medicine and is used a lot in children's anaesthetics due to its effectiveness and the fact it suppresses breathing less. It's somehow found its way into more social settings, even though it's one of the least social drugs I can think of.

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by 4midable » Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:32 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:30 pm
Yep, it's actually an essential medicine and is used a lot in children's anaesthetics due to its effectiveness and the fact it suppresses breathing less. It's somehow found its way into more social settings, even though it's one of the least social drugs I can think of.
Dont knock it 8-)

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:37 pm

4midable wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:32 pm
Dont knock it 8-)
I'm not passing judgment either way, I guess most of us have experimented, but it's not really social is it? Take enough if it, and you literally can't move never mind talk coherently.

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by Nori1958 » Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:43 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:37 pm
I'm not passing judgment either way, I guess most of us have experimented, but it's not really social is it? Take enough if it, and you literally can't move never mind talk coherently.
I doubt.. Most... Have experimented with illegal substances

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:45 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:43 pm
I doubt.. Most... Have experimented with illegal substances
I think you'll be surprised. Maybe we could do a poll?

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by AlargeClaret » Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:47 pm

Ket’s been around for 50 yrs + surely?, bit of a crossover with Heroin which was used for all sorts of pain relief , and still is but lesser extent as a non injectable , but heroin not a great battlefield drug ! Ket used to get bundled into the “ horse tranquilliser “ bracket , usually when people like Keith Moon had been on Mandrax / Quads a very different drug. I’d imagine most uk paramedics carry Ketamine .

I’d be very suprised if the usual “ coke “ heads has been on Ketamine?? Or had they??

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by Nori1958 » Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:53 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:45 pm
I think you'll be surprised. Maybe we could do a poll?
Perhaps you live in a different world than I do, but in mine I would say 90% haven't.

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:57 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:53 pm
Perhaps you live in a different world than I do, but in mine I would say 90% haven't.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/society/art ... onal-drugs

According to this survey 39% of Brits have taken recreational drugs.

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by Nori1958 » Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:58 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:57 pm
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/society/art ... onal-drugs

According to this survey 39% of Brits have taken recreational drugs.
That's not most..

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Re: Game spoiled by selfish "fans"

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:00 pm

It's weird how some people have choices but still complain.

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